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Re: Ken Holland accepts Oilers GM and POHO offer [message #831026 is a reply to message #831016 ]	Mon, 18 March 2024 10:49

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NetBOG wrote on Sun, 17 March 2024 12:23

Holland takes a lot of crap, but this team is way better as he leaves than when he got here.

If this was a company - where you could expect reasonably that the level of the company's sales and profits could be maintained, then looking at Holland's tenure this way might make sense. He took on a company that was struggling to break even, he stabilized things (mostly by letting his two star employees carry the load and then taking some level of credit for their accomplishments even though they pre-dated his arrival) and now it's an upper mid-tier competitor in the space. On to the next CEO to continue to push them up!

But it's not the same as a company because players have shelf lives and contracts come to an end. Draisaitl and McDavid are at the tail end of their deals, and should they decide not to stay in Edmonton, what that Holland has built has any level of sustainability? If they go - is there ANY chance of a championship for the Oilers? I'd suggest not.

Given the window of their prime producing years, the team should have at least been competitive for the Stanley Cup and it just wasn't. So if Holland is taking crap, he deserves it. He probably should be removed from the Hall of Fame as a Builder after his time with the Oilers as he's proven that without unlimited pizza money, he's actually trash. Can't trade, can't draft, can't negotiate any team friendly deals. Barely can even give a decent interview. We can't be rid of him soon enough. The guy who you should pity is the next GM who may have to deal with the exits of two superstars and who won't possibly be able to get enough back from their departures to make anyone happy.

"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
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