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Adam Messages: 6822
Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
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Kr55 wrote on Sun, 17 March 2024 15:40 |
smyth260 wrote on Sun, 17 March 2024 12:42 | Have higher expectations.
When you have Connor McDavid and Leon Draisaitl, I expect any of these:
- division wins
- top 5 league finishes
- finals
Ken Holland has none of those. Not even a game won in round 3. Leaving it better off than when you arrived is not good enough in these circumstances.
Every time there was room to take big steps forward he took steps back. You mentioned Campbell and Nurse. Well you also have to mention Kassian’s deal, the opportunity cost of allocating 5+ million cap space to 38 year old Duncan Keith, and then a bunch of 2 year deals to tweeners that limited our flexibility (Turris, Koekkoek, Shore, Archibald, Chiasson…who else). He has some hits but he has a lot more misses and ultimately that’s why we float around a 10th place team for his whole tenure. Not good enough. Not even top half of the playoff teams in most years.
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I feel like the satisfaction Holland had with Desharnais in the top 4 is a good final summary of his work here. Just hanging back watching Knob try to figure out which of these 3rd pair D that can barely move a puck will hurt us less against good comp playing top 4. Never came close to properly filling the holes that kept burning our team and even tossed away our most tradable asset for a 3rd line C when he had one last shot to try.
We still have McDrai of course. Miracles can happen. But we continue to fumble the hand we were dealt around decade ago.
Zero Holland draft picks in our lineup is also remarkable for a guy who has his entire claim to fame rooted in godly drafting.
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I think that the one thing Holland and the Oilers brass did well in the last 4 years is to set expectations really low. "We can't compete because there's cap issues. We aren't ready to win yet. You can't win trades in this league. What, did you want me to get him for nothing? We're pretty cap constrained right now."
They lined up the excuses and sold it to Oilers fans that they shouldn't expect championships during the absolute prime of McDavid and Draisaitl's careers. When he joined, McDavid is 22 and Draisaitl is 23, and they're both under contract forever. When he leaves, McDavid is 27 and Draisaitl 28, with only a single year left for Draisaitl before UFA and McDavid with only one more year on top of that and we have just nothing to show for it.
You can see the team happy to see the Mark Spector narrative that its because those players chased scoring titles instead of championships, but that's pure BS. Those players have never been the issue - the lack of depth, defence and goaltending has consistently held us back. McDavid has a ridiculous 66 points in 36 playoff games in that 5-year stretch. Draisaitl has 61 in the same 36 games. Meanwhile the team's netminding has been miserable. Mike Smith had .908 in 21 starts. Skinner is sitting at .883 in 12 starts. Koskinen wasn't much better at .892 in 3 starts and four relief efforts and Campbell has only come in in relief (4X last year!!!!) and has the best number at .961 although score effects and small sample size need to be considered.
What did the deadline help Holland got do?
Mike Green - 0 gp, 0 pts
Derick Brassard - 1 gp, 0 pts
Andreas Athanasiou - 4 gp, 0 pts
Dmitry Kulikov - 3 GP, 0 pts
Tyler Ennis - 5 gp, 2 pts
Brett Kulak - 28 gp, 7 pts
Mattias Ekholm, 12 gp, 7 pts
Oh and he saved room one year for Slater Koekkoek to return so maybe I should mention his 4 gp and 1 pt too. Ekholm was a great add. Kulak has been a fine, if overpriced, third line guy. Otherwise it's been grim. The GM hasn't helped the team over the edge at any point.
Chicago had Toews & Kane and some monster deals for them and they consistently added to that team through their prime to get them Stanley Cups. Crosby & Malkin had similar support in Pittsburgh - the team is still swinging for the fences to try to get them one more kick at it. The Caps have been suggested as the model with Ovechkin in his 30s before they finally won, but it wasn't for lack of trying - they just shared a division with the Crosby-led Pens and had some bad luck (and spotty netminding). That team still regularly added high-end talent to help them in their quest for that Cup.
The Oilers under Holland have been more content to play around the edges. He's made a couple of really good adds, but in five years, getting the most money of any GM, with the best players on the planet to build around? We should expect more.
Honestly, instead of blaming Chiarelli for a mess when he showed up, he should have set the expectation for a championship in Edmonton in the near future and potentially multiple Cups in his time here. He didn't, and the team performed to the lower expectations set - helped along by him not really helping much.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireLowe #FireBobbyNicks #FireKenHolland #FireKeithGretzky
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