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 CrudeRemarks
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Registered: November 2010
Location: Edmonton
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| oilfan94 wrote on Wed, 16 March 2022 13:05 |
| Goose wrote on Wed, 16 March 2022 14:04 |
| oilfan94 wrote on Wed, 16 March 2022 10:46 |
| smyth260 wrote on Wed, 16 March 2022 13:32 |
Ovechkin officially 3rd all time in goals scored, passing Jagr with 767.
Next is Gordie Howe at 801.
Ever since Adam mentioned PEDs its hard not to wonder at this age.
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There are a handful of players I have noticed who somehow have a career renaissance in an older age the past few seasons. I would have no way of knowing if any of them are actually guilty of any PEDs, but I have been more and more suspicious that it is a growing problem that the NHL is turning a blind eye to. IF (big if) Ovechkin is doing it and the NHL suspects it, then I think 100% he would be the reason they don't want to start looking into it more now.
This is one of those things that I wonder if it will get more attention when Bettman is no longer commissioner. There are some things that I do like about Bettman, which I never thought I would say, but at this point I think the NHL really needs someone new in that position.
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Rod "the Bod" Brind'amour is definitely one guy I'm suspicious of and it bothers me every time I think about 2006. The guy looks to be on a pretty steep decline having scored 12G/38pts in 03/04, hadn't score 30 goals in almost a decade, and then scores 31G/70 pts in 05/06 at the age of 36. And then went on to score 26G/82 pts the next year at the age of 37. Almost 30 points higher than he had been scoring 5 years earlier.
The league scoring more coming out of the lockout might have had something to do with it, but I don't think a lot of guys on the wrong side of 35 were scoring 30 more points than they were pre-lockout.
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I never thought about Brind'Amour much there because, like you said, there was that big scoring bump in 2006 and 2007.
The other player I always think about is Dustin Brown. Huge drop off in 2013-14 and was under 30 points 3 years in a row, then a little bump up to 36 and suddenly 61 points for a career high at age 34. He has slowly declined again, but still not as low as he was from ages 28-32. I suppose you could make the argument that he was used differently under Sutter, but that is a big decline and a big jump to blame on the coach.
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Let's not forget Shawn Horcoff as well.
You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you can get a lottery pick.
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