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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32) [message #725079 is a reply to message #725076 ]	Fri, 14 December 2018 15:35

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RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 14 December 2018 15:26

Adam wrote on Fri, 14 December 2018 15:17

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 14 December 2018 14:42

Jay wrote on Fri, 14 December 2018 09:24

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 14 December 2018 09:06

Leon had another 2 points last night. Up to 39 pts in 32 games which is a 100 pt pace. When is it OK to say that he's not overpaid? Leon is not doing it like Maroon did that one year where he cleaned up the garbage from McDavid, he is doing some INSANE things and is right there with McDavid play wise.

I actually agree with this. I think 29 gets a lot of unwarranted criticism here because of the way he plays. He is a methodical play maker - He doesn't look like he skates as hard as he can every second of every play. In Edmonton that's a recipe for a bulls eye on your back. I still think the comparison to a guy like Thornton is a good one - but Leon is a better goal scorer. Fantastic player and odds are only going to get better for the next few years.

I'm ok with his contract and I don't see it as a huge overpay for what he brings.

That said, I'm convinced the team butchered the signings of him and Mcdavid. If they would have signed 29 first they could have had him for ~7 and 97 for ~10.5. When they set the bar with McDavid first they gifted him the most obvious comparable in his own dressing room. 29 was never going to consider a salary that was half of what 97 got a month earlier.

NO disrespect what so ever man but I think you dreaming if you think McDavid was getting 10.5 mill. Would I have loved it, absolutely? But McDavid took exactly the same percentage of the cap as Crosby did when he signed. Coincidence? Not a chance.

From the sounds of it - McDavid's camp were looking for the Oilers to convince them of a number that made sense. The Oilers came in to the negotiation looking to roll over and let McDavid & Orr sniff their bellies.

McDavid wants to win, and he was taken care of for life on this contract no matter what - if the GM had not thrown overpays at Russell and Gryba in the lead-up to that discussion, if he had shown that he was going to try to convince everyone that they had to take discounts to play with McDavid and build a championship team, if he had presented that strategy to McDavid and his camp - there's no telling what would have happened.

Instead, it took McDavid and his representatives telling Chiarelli that they wouldn't take the absolute top dollar for the benefit of the team. He should thank them every day for that, because they wouldn't even be able to afford THIS roster if he had taken what he could have...

Believe what you want but not a freaking chance they were getting McDavid for 10.5.

If McDavid went to RFA, he would be getting 15M AAV offersheets, without a doubt.

We did really need to sign Drai before that playoff run, but I doubt he was interested in signing before seeing what McDavid got, and you have to do McDavid ASAP once July 1st hits, you are not helping yourself letting that drag on. Maybe 10.5 was possible with McDavid, but you likely only get 4 years for that. Players and agents aren't dumb, they aren't signing an 8 year year where it looks like an absolute bargain in year 2.

I really do question Chia's negotiating skills with Drai still. Drai did have a heater in the playoffs on his own line, which was great, but he was something like 30% corsi in those games. He was getting owned by Getzlaf's line on posession, but Drai/Lucic and Slep scored on almost every chance they had. There had to be a way to try to get that point across, that Drai wasn't suddenly Malkin-lite, driving his own line about to be a 90 point guy on his own. A sweet run of luck for 3-4 games took him from probably being 7-7.5M to 8.5, when it really should not have.

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- Lowe, 2013

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Review: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32)	By: OilFans on Thu, 13 December 2018 20:30
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32)	By: Ragnarok73 on Thu, 13 December 2018 20:46
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32)	By: overdue on Thu, 13 December 2018 20:52
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32)	By: Ragnarok73 on Thu, 13 December 2018 20:54
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32)	By: Mike on Thu, 13 December 2018 20:58
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32)	By: clutchlikeeberle on Thu, 13 December 2018 21:02
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32)	By: Adam on Thu, 13 December 2018 21:04
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32)	By: Ragnarok73 on Thu, 13 December 2018 21:56
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32)	By: NetBOG on Thu, 13 December 2018 21:28
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32)	By: Adam on Thu, 13 December 2018 21:03
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32)	By: Adam on Thu, 13 December 2018 22:35
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32)	By: Kr55 on Thu, 13 December 2018 22:41
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32)	By: Adam on Thu, 13 December 2018 23:09
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32)	By: K.McC#24 on Thu, 13 December 2018 23:14
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32)	By: RDOilerfan on Fri, 14 December 2018 08:39
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32)	By: RDOilerfan on Fri, 14 December 2018 09:06
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32)	By: Jay on Fri, 14 December 2018 09:24
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32)	By: Pseudoreality on Fri, 14 December 2018 09:53
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32)	By: K.McC#24 on Fri, 14 December 2018 12:51
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32)	By: Jay on Fri, 14 December 2018 14:20
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32)	By: CrusaderPi on Fri, 14 December 2018 14:31
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32)	By: Adam on Fri, 14 December 2018 14:35
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32)	By: Adam on Fri, 14 December 2018 09:53
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32)	By: RDOilerfan on Fri, 14 December 2018 14:55
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32)	By: Adam on Fri, 14 December 2018 15:13
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32)	By: CrusaderPi on Fri, 14 December 2018 15:18
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32)	By: RDOilerfan on Fri, 14 December 2018 14:42
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32)	By: Adam on Fri, 14 December 2018 15:17
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32)	By: RDOilerfan on Fri, 14 December 2018 15:26
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32)	By: Kr55 on Fri, 14 December 2018 15:35
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32)	By: RDOilerfan on Fri, 14 December 2018 15:42
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32)	By: Jay on Fri, 14 December 2018 15:34
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32)	By: Kr55 on Fri, 14 December 2018 09:48
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32)	By: RDOilerfan on Fri, 14 December 2018 09:54
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32)	By: Kr55 on Fri, 14 December 2018 09:58
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32)	By: Kr55 on Fri, 14 December 2018 15:24
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32)	By: stemhovlichski on Fri, 14 December 2018 18:23
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32)	By: Kr55 on Fri, 14 December 2018 18:28
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32)	By: Adam on Fri, 14 December 2018 09:57
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32)	By: RDOilerfan on Fri, 14 December 2018 10:06
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32)	By: Kr55 on Fri, 14 December 2018 10:10

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