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 Adam
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Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
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| Kr55 wrote on Wed, 21 November 2018 14:45 |
I think McLellan may have been dad to guys like McDavid, Drai, Lucic, Nuge, and I guess Letestu and guys that were true believers in everything he was selling. But, he did throw other guys under the bus a lot. He pretty much told Schultz to get the hell off the team in his interview after a game. I wonder if he really did confront players that much personally, maybe he didn't. Maybe the media stuff was actually how he talked to them. Then there was practice and video time going over mistakes as a group, and woodcroft's custom mistakes videos for individuals, and if players couldn't learn all they need from that, then they might find themselves sitting out (unless they were Lucic, Letestu or whatever other favourites he had).
I didn't view him as a teacher really at all. He let his elite guys free wheel, he had system ideas that never really seemed to ever stick or be consistently used in an effective way with all the non-elite guys that he just hoped could tread water while the elite guys were resting. After 3+ years, I still don't feel our players were going out there looking like they knew what their job was, which to me is the real measure of a coach. You can lose games still with good coaching because of a lack of talent and ability to score, but at the least, your players should look like they know what the hell they're supposed to be doing.
Ah well. I guess we'll find out soon how coach-able this team really is. If these guys don't start all looking like they understand what their job is under this coach, I won't know what to think anymore.
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I think there's a lot of bad coaches out there with pretty archaic ideas about what works. The problem is that it's really hard to quantify good coaching - a bad coach with a good team can win, a goalie or star player can pull a team forward in spite of the coach sometimes, a brilliant coach can still lose a critical game to bad luck, or have a roster that can't overcome superior opposition.
I heard Ryan Whitney talking about Michel Therrien recently on his podcast. He said that when Therrien took over as Penguins' head coach, he had one-on-ones with all the players...that part sounds reasonable and like something you'd want the coach to do. Apparently though, it was a verbal harangue where he yelled at many of the players, told them they were playing like @#$%, that they got the previous guy fired, that it's all their fault and that they aren't going to do that with him.
Somehow, I just don't believe that adult men need to be screamed at and belittled to get the best out of them. I worry that Hitchcock may be in that mold. The comments from Brodziak about how hard he is on guys is concerning, and some of the stories that have come up (Brenden Morrow, for example) shouldn't give anyone a lot of confidence.
I don't think you usually get the most out of people through fear. I'd much rather see a Krueger-type who inspires his players than an old-school guy who yells and screams a lot. That always seems like it's more about the coach than it is about anything else. He wants to be the story...
I'm skeptical of the hire...I think that like Quinn, Hitchcock may be a dinosaur. His best seasons are now almost 20 years behind us.
That said, it's a different voice and that alone is good for this team. Maybe he won't have McLellan's failings of sheer stubbornness, god awful special teams, players under the bus constantly in a public fashion, and idiotic systems designed on trying futilely reduce risk to zero in every situation.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireLowe #FireBobbyNicks #FireKenHolland #FireKeithGretzky
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