 RDOilerfan
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| Kr55 wrote on Wed, 21 November 2018 14:45 |
| overdue wrote on Wed, 21 November 2018 13:34 |
| RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 21 November 2018 10:41 |
I don't give a crap who coaches the team or how old he is, just win some bloody games. They had the nice, pat them on the back, supportive Dad figure in McLellan and they rewarded him by being crappy. Now the roster isn't good enough and McLellan made mistakes too but at the same time not many of the Oilers players played up to their potential other than McDavid. So there is plenty of blame to go around. So maybe these guys need the crusty, blunt, tell it like it is, grandpa figure to get these guys going.
I heard a text from someone on the Nielsen show this morning and maybe there is something to it. Kids don't always listen or do what their parents say but they usually listen and do what their grand parents tell them. I have 2 boys and overall they are good, well behaved kids but at times, it's a struggle to get them to listen and do what they are supposed to. Yet when they are at their grandparents, they are perfect angels and are work their ass off doing whatever their grandparents ask.
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Didn't watch the whole game but enough to see that as a team they actually looked like they knew what they were doing most of the time and their goaltender did a great job of keeping them in it when the sharks got hot. The grandfather analogy is a good one although I can't help but remember Mclellan throwing players under the bus in media interviews. Is that what supportive, caring Dad's do? It seemed that relationship had soured a lot and was one of the reasons he had to be replaced. Be interesting to see where this goes in the next few games. Hitchcock's record speaks for itself.
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I think McLellan may have been dad to guys like McDavid, Drai, Lucic, Nuge, and I guess Letestu and guys that were true believers in everything he was selling. But, he did throw other guys under the bus a lot. He pretty much told Schultz to get the hell off the team in his interview after a game. I wonder if he really did confront players that much personally, maybe he didn't. Maybe the media stuff was actually how he talked to them. Then there was practice and video time going over mistakes as a group, and woodcroft's custom mistakes videos for individuals, and if players couldn't learn all they need from that, then they might find themselves sitting out (unless they were Lucic, Letestu or whatever other favourites he had).
I didn't view him as a teacher really at all. He let his elite guys free wheel, he had system ideas that never really seemed to ever stick or be consistently used in an effective way with all the non-elite guys that he just hoped could tread water while the elite guys were resting. After 3+ years, I still don't feel our players were going out there looking like they knew what their job was, which to me is the real measure of a coach. You can lose games still with good coaching because of a lack of talent and ability to score, but at the least, your players should look like they know what the hell they're supposed to be doing.
Ah well. I guess we'll find out soon how coach-able this team really is. If these guys don't start all looking like they understand what their job is under this coach, I won't know what to think anymore.
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I can agree that it looks like McLellen wasn't able to be a good enough teacher for these young guys. You kept seeing a lot of the young guys doing the same mistake year after year. One thing I will say, is Hitch seems to be a good teacher because he is known for structure and making your teams overall defense better. Every team he has went too, their goals against dropped a lot. So maybe if Hitch can come in, teach some structure to these guys including McDavid, the guy that takes over next year will have a much better collection of hockey players.
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