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 K.McC#24
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| PlusOne wrote on Tue, 20 November 2018 13:09 |
| RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 20 November 2018 13:53 |
| K.McC#24 wrote on Tue, 20 November 2018 12:23 |
| RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 20 November 2018 11:41 |
| GabbyDugan wrote on Tue, 20 November 2018 11:25 |
....Spector chimes in....
https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/ken-hitchcock-perfect-hi re-oilers-right-now/
..."Hitchcock is not what you’d call a players’ coach. In fact, Ty Rattie — who could never make Hitchcock’s roster in St. Louis — will not be pleased with this move, we’re guessing.
But the answer in Edmonton, as far as the players are concerned, is simple: Play better."...
....after this morning's press conference, Chia has to know he's gone at the end of this season...he's failed at pulling a rabbit out of a hat too many times...
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The only thing I would say is what can the organization do mid season? If they fire Chia right now like most people want, what does that do right now? The season is going, rosters are set, most teams don't have cap space to work with, that includes the Oilers. Free agents are all signed, you can't buy out guys and trades just don't happen because most teams can afford it. So other than make fans happy, what does firing Chia right now accomplish?
When it comes to the coach. I don't think Hitchcock is the long term answer and based on what Chia said and everyone else has said, it doesn't sound like it will be. He's signed for the rest of the year, that's it. But based on what has happened, there has been problems with the structure at times, there has been problems with players reverting back to doing bad habits at times and there has been problems with players under performing. As an example, how many times have we seen guys like Caggulia, Benning, Nurse, etc doing the same stupid mistakes they did 2 seasons ago? They should know better by now. So the message isn't getting through to them. Hitchcock is known for being a good structure guy especially defensively. We have seen that the Oilers CAN play good structure, they just don't do it all the time. So if he can tweak these guys a bit to play with more structure, it might help. The big thing is he is a demanding coach which wears on guys hence why he moves around but for short periods of time, you see immediate improvements in his time. Quite frankly, even though the roster has holes in it all thanks to Chia doing a lousy job, there are a lot of guys on this team flat out under performing. So if Hitchcock can come in a give a bunch of guys a boot in the ass, maybe they can get into the playoffs.
Plus I do not see a scenario where any coach who Oilers fans would deem good enough is taking the Oilers job during the season when the future of the GM is in question.
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What does any GM do here, given the corner the current GM has painted the team into? All they can do is hope the cap drives up and gives some breathing room going forward. Given that the team has gutted their depth at wing, fired their bullets, and STILL needs a passable 1D who is a threat on the PP. I can't seen them moving depth at center (one of whom still has to play wing any given night) to address issues on D or on wing, or now possibly 1G.
They can't trade picks for salary, because there's no room. They've got some prospects in the organization, but what do you do in terms of personnel, what prospects would anyone deal, what are the cap implications, and what are you going to get? The current GM has poisoned the well for any moves to help other that shuffling deck chairs. He should be fired on the basis of this fact, but any incoming GM is going to be hamstrung unless he's willing to trade a big piece, and really the Oilers are in a corner because the franchise simply cannot afford a trade mistake that creates a hole in the roster and doesn't create an outright benefit elsewhere in the roster.
Unfortunately we're probably at a point where help isn't coming, where they had to get someone in to help the existing roster execute and perform better. The GM should be axed at season's end for anything less than a 2nd round appearance in the playoffs. PC should have a very short leash in terms of what he's allowed to attempt to save his job, but replacing him mid season given the situation probably wouldn't do much good at this point.
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I do not disagree one bit. Chia has put the Oilers in a real tough spot. That is why if the do fire Chia, I want every possible candidate available. Firing him now and bringing in who ever is currently left out there doesn't make sense to me. If as an example (pipe dream I know) Yzerman wants the job, I don't think he takes it mid season. What about Mark Hunter who lost out to Dubas. He has his finger prints all over the Leafs. I don't think he comes mid season. I am sure there are some assistant GM's who could be really good but wouldn't be available until the end of the season.
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I think you could do that, wait until the end of the year and see whats out there, and still turf Chia mid season.
Assign one of our multiple internal head office folks as interim, put the hand cuffs on and ride out the season.
Assuming PC is not allowed much freedom now anyway he is nothing but a lame duck waiting to be fired. Might as well move on from him now.
You mention the pipe dream of Yzerman, perhaps moving on from PC now has a few other top candidates eyeing the job early. Maybe one of the top assistants you mention starts gearing up to apply/be recruited.
Lots can happen midseason, if most are in agreement that PC is a dead man walking then waiting does nothing.
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Only if you're wanting to promote from within to an interim guy, how many GM's are let go after 1/4 of the season? Otherwise you wait until the season's end until prior to the draft to see who's available, and allow some time time to properly find the guy.....assuming that the Oilers would actually talk to more than one individual.
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