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Re: Oilers Qualify 3; Nurse, Slepychev, Strome [message #758170 is a reply to message #758166 ]	Mon, 23 March 2020 17:51

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Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 23 March 2020 17:37

Adam wrote on Mon, 23 March 2020 16:23

Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 23 March 2020 17:03

CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 23 March 2020 11:04

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 23 March 2020 10:42

I still maintain that Chia's worst move was the Reinhart trade.

The Hall trade wasn't great because he didn't get close to enough value. I read from his interview with Garrioch he felt he needed to trade Hall to be able to hand the team over to McD. OK, fine. At least get value for him. At the time of the trade, I thought that was maybe he all could get for Hall. Larsson was and has been a decent Oiler and it wasn't like Hall's value would be sky high at the time. But after reading his interview, it sounds like that was the only trade and he didn't shop around. Why not? Even if you really liked Larsson, why wouldn't you just shop around just cause and if anything, just to try to get a better deal. When it comes time to replace a vehicle, I do my research. I usually zero in on where I am going, what ultimately I am willing to pay and what I want before I go look. But I still look around. I still look at other options and try to grind for a better deal. I don't just walk to one place, point at something and tell them to get working on the paperwork. So I don't get why he wouldn't shop around a bit. If he gets Larsson and a decent pick or decent prospect, then trade while probably not amazing isn't too bad.

But the Reinhart trade, he traded a mid round first and a second for a guy who wasn't even an NHLer. It doesn't sound like he knew a lot about him, just trusted other. OK, but he's still not in the NHL. Wouldn't you question that? It's one thing if Reinhart was on the Islanders 3rd pair, doing well in a 3rd pairing role but buried behind a bunch of other guys and your guys say "he can elevate to a top 4". He was in the AHL and it's not like the Islanders defense was filled with Norris guys. They were pretty mediocre at best. The Islanders were an eastern team so being a former eastern GM, you'd probably have at least a somewhat idea on the Islanders defense and how they are. So if they tell you go get Reinhart and they drop all his information and stats on your desk plus all the information from the Islanders defense and he's not even in the top 7 in their organization after multiple years in the AHL and he was a top 5 pick, don't you ask the question why not?

Nope. Hall trade is the worst. First overall pick and future league mvp for an no offence middle d-man. Hall was a known commodity, unlike Reinhardt and Barzal at the time. The best thing you can say about the Hall trade is that he didn’t do it for Cody Ceci.

Both trades awful, just like the Eberle and Strome deals as well as the Lucic and Russell signings. And all the goalie shenanigans. It is hard to rank all the incompetence but trading away a league mvp for cents on the dollar is the worst.

His reasoning, as revealed in the interview, makes it even worse, he needed to unload Hall for 5 cents on a toonie so McD would feel like its "his" team?
Irrational.

Yeah, how fragile did he think McDavid was? Hall said it was McDavid's team already in the months preceding the trade and McDavid has never seemed like someone who lacks confidence.

Not to mention, that's at the end of McDavid's ROOKIE season. Most teams are looking for ways to help insulate young stars, not trying to make it only their team.

Chiarelli is just a horrible, horrible GM who wanted to have people believe that it was him that led us to victory, not just the fact we had really good players. And that led him to make atrocious mistakes.

Exactly.

Man, I really do hope he gets another GM gig though so he can completely ruin someone else's team. Maybe Vancouver? Calgary?

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