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 Kr55
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Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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| RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 12 September 2018 10:14 |
| Kr55 wrote on Wed, 12 September 2018 10:03 |
| RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 12 September 2018 08:29 |
I think Bouchard will go to Europe and play 9 games then sent back to junior to ultimately be on the World Juniors. I think the Oilers do like they did with Yamo and slow play those 9 games so Bouchard can be around the team for a while, watch the NHL games, practice a ton with NHLers, be around the coaches, the training staff, all their skills coaches. Get first hand knowledge of what it takes to be an NHLer that he won't get from a junior team. I have always been a guy who believes that there is a flaw in the CHL system not allowing players like Bouchard who are clearly too good for the CHL to go play in the minors. It has nothing to do with player development, it has everything to do with MONEY for the CHL. Having guys like Bouchard on a CHL team makes the team more money because he is a name.
Bouchard has 3 years of junior under his belt, he was a dominate player in the CHL. He's bigger, stronger and flat out better than probably 3/4 of the players on his team and arguable 3/4 of the players in the OHL. He needs to learn how to play and process the game at the pro level, he needs to learn how to play against men. How does he learn to play and process the game at the pro level playing junior hockey when most of the players coming at him are guys who junior hockey is the highlight of their hockey career. The Oilers rookies beat the hell out of a college all star team last night. A lot of the junior hockey guys he will go up against if he plays junior will end up on a team like NAIT who he dominates for fun. Bouchard is already 193 so he probably has 15-20 lbs on the majority of the league. How does he learn how much strength it takes to battle a pro guy in front of the net when he is going up against a 175 lbs 17 yr old who needs at least 3 yrs of fulling out. So while I think he should ultimately go back to junior because unfortunately playing in the AHL isn't allowed for him, I see a ton of value in giving him a few games in the NHL so he gets first hand experience what it takes.
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Isn't it CHL or NHL for Bouchard this year? I think that is the part that leads to the debate on what's best for his development. How much will he learn destroying kids for another year? Will they keep running him into the ground with 30 mins a night so he has no energy to spend giving 100% in his own end? How much can we destroy his confidence in the NHL throwing him to the wolves?
At the least in the CHL he has a shot at winning something as a leader on a stacked team.
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It is the CHL or NHL for him because he's not old enough thanks to the rules the CHL has in place to go to the minors.
I completely agree with you. I don't like the idea of throwing an 19 yr old playing his first year of pro hockey to the wolves in the NHL anymore than the 9 games. At the same time, I don't think he develops anymore by as you said it destroying kids every night. I got to watch Phaneuf as a 19/20 yr old play in Red Deer when the lock out was going. It was stupid. He barely came off the ice, he would absolute crush guys physically because he was so much bigger than the majority. He would go end to end whenever he wanted because no one could handle him. He just pushed all these kids aside defensively. He scored 24 goals because the majority of the goalies weren't capable of stopping his shot. On a lot of nights, he barely had to try because most of the players he was up against were way smaller and flat out not good enough to challenge him. He was a man against boys and I can't see how he got any better because of it. I could see it being the exact same thing with Bouchard. It's too bad they have that rule in place.
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I just realised I misunderstood your post :) Thought you were saying he's going to Europe to play in a Swiss league or something, but you were just talking about the early season in the NHL. That actually would have been awesome for his development if it was allowed, like Matthews did.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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