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PlusOne wrote on Tue, 01 May 2018 14:03 |
CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 01 May 2018 13:42 |
OilMJMOil wrote on Tue, 01 May 2018 13:36 | Maybe I’m in the minority in this, but this is good for the Oilers. Koskinen *should* push Talbot all while tutoring Jesse Puljujarvi in English providing a Finnish mentor for young JP.
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This is one of those moves where if a good team and a good GM made it, I'd give them the benefit of doubt. However, since it's the Oilers and Chiarelli... no benefits will be given and I'm going to assume the move is stupid until proven otherwise.
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I still dont think I would like it. While on capfriendly looking at FA goalies I decided to check out some of the team goalie tandem cap hits.
Of the 16 playoff teams only one pay a goalie the same or more than Koskinen. That would be Colorado
Of the 15 non playoff teams there 4.
Now, this one fact isn't indicative of it being a problem by itself but it is an interesting snapshot of how successful teams are signing players.
Using this year as a comparison there are teams paying backups making more
DAL- (Lehtonen @ 5.9 and Bishop at 4.9)
NYI- Halak and Greiss
FLA- Luongo and Reimer
COL- Varlamov and Bernier
CAR- Darling and Ward
Paying a backup this much is a usually a clear indication of;
- lack of faith in the starter
- signing a successor to the incumbent
- bad managment
Talbot is a year older then Koskinen (to the month)
Neither is signed past this year.
RDOF asked people to look at capfriendly. I wish I wouldn't have. The more I look at goalie salaries the dumber this looks.
I suppose the bright side is with enough overpays we cant blame cap space for underperforming next year. Although I would suggest he never got a fair shake here.
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How many of those teams have a starter that they're paying significantly more than Talbot though?
Rinne is $7m
Rask $7m
Holtby $6.1m
Jones $5.75m
Varlamov $5.9m
Schneider $6m
Andersen $5.3m
Quick $5.8m
Fleury $5.75m
Allen $4.35m
Dubnyk $4.33m
There are only 5 teams paying their starter less than us, and of those one would think that Hallebuyck will be getting a big pay day on his next contract, same with Vasilevsky in Tampa and Murray in Pittsburgh and Gibson in Anaheim.
That leave Philly, but I don't think any team wants to model their goalie situation on what Philly does.
It only seems fair to compare what teams are paying for their goalie tandem, not just the starter. Oilers are right in the middle of the pack when you factor that in, which I have no problem with.
Goalie cap hit isn't what's hurting us, it's $4m with NMC for 3rd pairing D, $6m with NMC for 2LW (arguably 3LW based off last year), $1.95m for 4RW...
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