 RDOilerfan
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| PlusOne wrote on Thu, 22 March 2018 09:34 |
| RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 22 March 2018 08:35 |
Look I get you dislike the management but do you seriously think they make the trade without knowing they can sign him?
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Honestly yes, yes I do think they would do that.
I am not saying they don't have a chance to sign him but I doubt they know it as a fact.
When anyone here doesnt like a move you instantly make an accusation that we are anti management regardless of the move. Then you try to cast as much sunshine as you can onto whatever deal or move has been made. You seem to be projecting some anger towards anyone who comments on a move by management as if I am calling for a fire bombing of the head office.
| RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 22 March 2018 08:35 |
I don't for a second think this organization is doing these things just to piss the fans off because they think it's funny. I don't think they are closing their eyes and throwing a dart at the board and say "Let's try him'.
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I didn't say that at all. I dont think PC is making moves out of spite or to leave the team in as bad as a place as possible as some middle finger.
| RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 22 March 2018 08:35 |
Thanks to past management and thinking that guys like Moroz, Musil and a list of others could play, the Oilers have diddly squat in the system right now that are even decent AHLers let alone guys looking to push for NHL spots. Slowly they are building that and it looks like they have some dmen coming but at forward, they have NOTHING. That is why in my opinion they go out and sign these AHlers like Callahan, Malone, Ferlin, Downing who are decent AHLers because they need someone to play on their AHL team and they need someone who in an emergency they can call up. Other than Malone, who else can the Oilers call up to play forward? I'd say no one and Malone is a 13th NHL forward at best. I think based on the last couple of drafts, some talent will be turning pro at forward next year and the year after and hopefully a few of them will develop into players in a few years who will be viable call up options. So when they sign Marody (I believe they will) they will have a 21-22 yr old guy who apparently has some skill and based on the scouting reports has a chance to be a decent bottom 6 guy in the NHL. Whether that happens, we shall see but given his age, he should be closer to being that vs a guy they draft next year who's 4 yrs away. So maybe in the near future, instead of calling up a 28 yr old 13th forward in Malone, they can call up this guy to fill a role. Regardless, trading a 3rd round pick on a potential close to making it guy when you have 3 picks in the same round, isn't going to kill them. This team needs to improve NOW not 5 years from now.
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I honestly do hope you are 100% right and I do think that is what PC is hoping for too. I have admitted I am a bit jaded and lacking anymore hope that one of his deals pan out given very few have.
One question for you. If the above is likely, if he is pretty likely so sign, has been improving and likely ready to step in to any kind of NHL role sooner than later why would the Flyers give him up for a 3rd?
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To respond to you saying I throw as much sunshine on everything. I have lost count how many times I have said that I get why people are upset with how things have gone. IT has sucked and I am pissed off too. I get that you have very little faith in the management right now. They don't deserve your faith. It might shock you but I am skeptical about the moves they make given their current track record. But I don't live my life where if someone makes a mistake, I write them off forever as being keeping useless. So when they make a move, I like to see what happens first rather than jump right too the conclusion it sucks. I can't see into the future so I don't know that. I won't go into detail on my reasons why I don't automatically think it is a bad move. I have done that to death. All I will say is they had 3 -3rd rounders so giving up 1 3rd round pick for the potential of a guy actually stepping into their system next year I don't deem as being a terrible thing. I am not ready to completely applaud the move but I am at least prepared to wait and see before I grab another pitch fork. What I find frustrating is because I actually like to see moves play out first before I decide they suck or not, I am deemed a Chia lover.
When it comes to the Flyers giving up on him. I have no clue. They drafted him in 2015, maybe the guys that wanted him are gone now. Maybe it was a shift in organization philosophy. Maybe the coach doesn't see a fit. Maybe they have too much of similar players. According to this link. https://www.prosportstransactions.com/hockey/DraftTrades/Fut ure/Flyers.htm
If the Flyers resign Mrazek, they have to give up their 3rd rounder in 2019 to the Wings. That would mean they don't have a 3rd rounder so they wanted one and this was the cost to get one. It's been said, teams value draft picks so maybe the amount of teams willing to give on up for him was limited. Given who they have in goal before Mrazek, there is a chance they do it. Maybe the player has looked at the team and told them he won't sign with them for whatever reason.
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