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You seemed to ignore the exact reason that Ziltoid is shaking his head at this and I agree with him.
There are many times that a third round pick can tip a trade to your favor, especially on the draft floor.
When a Gm starts tossing picks away on lottery tickets it is a signal to me that they have either been told, or are assuming, they are on the hot seat.
You are 100% right that a 3rd round pick is not likely to help the team in the next few years. If PC is thinking he wont be around that long those picks have zero value for him and it leads to trades like this.
I know nothing of Marody but for a team that should be in a win now mode that pick asset should be used to improve the team, not just throw another fishing line in a shallow pond.
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Oilers still have a draft pick in the third round if there is a deal they are desperate to get in on. They have all their picks minus the fourth (Montoya). They also have all their picks (plus and extra 3rd round pick next year) for both 2019 and 2020.
I see this more as using a draft pick in March instead of June and getting a player a couple years older who benefits the team now as opposed to making the pick in June and then waiting for a few years for any potential benefit.
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As I mentioned in my reply to RDOF; having a bunch of picks doesnt mean they should be expendable without a good trade. It doesn't excuse this trade if in fact Marody plans to go back to school and he will be a FA roughly 16 months from now.
The team needs every piece of tradeable ammo it has, they can't go wasting them.
I have low odds that either that third round pick or this player will ever contribute to the Oilers improving anytime in the next 5 years so in the end it isn't a big deal.
I am just tired of what I see as bad asset management.
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Look I get you dislike the management but do you seriously think they make the trade without knowing they can sign him?
I get people are pissed, I'm just as pissed. I am not in the "burn it all to the ground, everyone needs to pay" group like some people are but I know that whatever they are doing didn't work. I know the organization needs to do some things different. Whether that is change in the philosophy of the team, fire everyone, fire a few people, I don't know exactly but clearly things need to change. But when it comes to trades or signings, I don't for a second think this organization is doing these things just to piss the fans off because they think it's funny. I don't think they are closing their eyes and throwing a dart at the board and say "Let's try him'. I would assume they would have done some checking and see if they could sign the kid. I would expect that he would sign after he is done the College playoffs.
Thanks to past management and thinking that guys like Moroz, Musil and a list of others could play, the Oilers have diddly squat in the system right now that are even decent AHLers let alone guys looking to push for NHL spots. Slowly they are building that and it looks like they have some dmen coming but at forward, they have NOTHING. That is why in my opinion they go out and sign these AHlers like Callahan, Malone, Ferlin, Downing who are decent AHLers because they need someone to play on their AHL team and they need someone who in an emergency they can call up. Other than Malone, who else can the Oilers call up to play forward? I'd say no one and Malone is a 13th NHL forward at best. I think based on the last couple of drafts, some talent will be turning pro at forward next year and the year after and hopefully a few of them will develop into players in a few years who will be viable call up options. So when they sign Marody (I believe they will) they will have a 21-22 yr old guy who apparently has some skill and based on the scouting reports has a chance to be a decent bottom 6 guy in the NHL. Whether that happens, we shall see but given his age, he should be closer to being that vs a guy they draft next year who's 4 yrs away. So maybe in the near future, instead of calling up a 28 yr old 13th forward in Malone, they can call up this guy to fill a role. Regardless, trading a 3rd round pick on a potential close to making it guy when you have 3 picks in the same round, isn't going to kill them. This team needs to improve NOW not 5 years from now.
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