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| RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 21 March 2018 15:18 |
| PlusOne wrote on Wed, 21 March 2018 14:05 |
| RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 21 March 2018 12:36 |
| ziltoid wrote on Wed, 21 March 2018 12:26 |
See, this I don't get. We know picks are overvalued on the draft floor, so why spend a 3rd on a player that will likely never play for the Oilers when we can use that pick as a sweetener in a package that actually address holes in our roster. We got Talbot for a 2nd, 3rd, and 7th. We got Maroon for a prospect and pick. This is not an uncommon thing, yet we waste a bullet on a kid who is a long-shot for depth role a few years down the road.
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I have no clue about this kid or whether he will ever play with the Oilers. I don't know what the odds are of the chances of a 3rd round pick making the NHL but they are pretty low. You are drafting these kids when they are 17, maybe 18 yrs old and projecting what they MIGHT do years from now when they are playing men. Right now they are up against kids. You think he will grow more but there is no guarantee. You think he will get faster but that isn't a guarantee. You think whatever holes in his game will get better with age but you don't know that. Yak was supposed to be this goal scoring, point producing top 6 guy. So much so he was the consensus #1 pick. He is what, a 4th liner at best?
If you pick a kid in the 3rd round and IF he ends up making the NHL. From the time you are drafting him at 17/18, its probably 4 yrs before you see him in the NHL. At least with a 21 yr old. You know how big he is, you know what his skating is like, you know what his strengths and weaknesses are. So I don't see it as a bad deal.
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You seemed to ignore the exact reason that Ziltoid is shaking his head at this and I agree with him.
There are many times that a third round pick can tip a trade to your favor, especially on the draft floor.
When a Gm starts tossing picks away on lottery tickets it is a signal to me that they have either been told, or are assuming, they are on the hot seat.
You are 100% right that a 3rd round pick is not likely to help the team in the next few years. If PC is thinking he wont be around that long those picks have zero value for him and it leads to trades like this.
I know nothing of Marody but for a team that should be in a win now mode that pick asset should be used to improve the team, not just throw another fishing line in a shallow pond.
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I get that but here is a list of the picks they have.
https://www.prosportstransactions.com/hockey/DraftTrades/Fut ure/Oilers.htm
So they have all their picks in this years draft except their 4th. In next years draft, they have all their own picks, plus an additional 3rd rounder from the Islanders. The pick they gave up was the Devils 3rd.
So they gave up ONE third rounder out of the 3 they had for next years draft. OHHH THE HORROR!!! They and still do exactly what Ziltoid said which is use a 3rd as a sweetner and STILL have another one left over. So they get a guy who might be able to at least go the minors right away and inject some skill into the minor league team so when guys like Benson and maybe Yamamoto turn pro, maybe they can play with a reasonable player rather than having a career AHLer stunting their growth. Hopefully this guy in a year or 2 can maybe crack the Oilers bottom 6.
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First off, to the bolded part, easy on the confrontational hyperbole. I don't think myself or anyone else said we hated the trade or called you stupid for being ok with it.
To your actual comments, that is a fair point, they do have enough picks that trading one isn't the end of the world.
Just because I have a dozen beer and will likely only drink ten this weekend doesnt mean I will pour two down the drain tonight. Who knows when those extra ones might come in handy.
The bigger picture is that this is another example of poor asset management. We traded a 3rd round pick for a former 6th round pick.
- He is 6'1", 173 punds and hasn't put on weight since being drafted so it doesnt seem there is much "man strength" yet to come. (caveat is that he did have mono so perhaps that slowed progress on this front.
- one that has had one good season in University hockey but doesnt have any indicator as anything more likely to have an impact than a third round pick
- one that if he returns for his senior season there will be an FA after if the Oilers dont sign him
On a positive note his biggest assets are listed as speed and creativity. Perhaps we found our replacement for RNH when he is our annual summer trade bait.
The above makes this seem like a waste to me. Once more asset that MIGHT have value in a trade, and worst case has IMO, the same or perhaps even better chances of being a contributing member of the team seems like a poor use of available resources.
This has nothing to do with Marody himself. I have never heard of him. All I know is the same stuff everyone else here has read today.
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