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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 19 March 2018 16:26


Just a question as I don't want to come across as advocating for McLellan because I am not. He was nominated for the Jack Adams last year. I am assuming to get nominated for that award and to get the team to game 7 of the Western Semi's while being royally screwed by the refs, you have to at least know something about coaching and it wasn't all just "Connor, go score me a goal".

There is no way to know for sure but I believe it is safe to assume that if the PP, which I believe was top 5 last year was say even middle of the pack and the PK was better, 2 things that fall on the assistants and the goaltending was better. Talbot was 4th in vezina voting last year and this year is near the bottom in the league. So if the PP was mediocre, the PK was medicore and Talbot was even middle of the pack, I would think the Oilers would be in the playoffs. So if the Oilers were in the playoffs, would McLellan be a terrible coach in your eyes?

I know you dislike him and if he is fired, I won't be upset what so ever but it's a pretty fine line between being a good coach and a bad coach. So it wouldn't shock me if the entire assistant staff is gutted with McLellan being there. I could also see one of the assistants being a former head coach where if the team faulters, he is there to step in.


Once again, I have nothing personal against McLellan (or anyone else you think I "dislike").

I do not think he was good last year either, and I was pretty consistent in my criticism of his systems even as the team did okay. I realized there were issues with McLellan and that the game plan DID seem to be that if the first line outscores the opposition, then the other lines could just try to tread water. I scoffed last year at the Jack Adams' nomination and said very clearly that the Oilers success was almost entirely on the backs of McDavid, Talbot and team health - and that if one or two of those pillars disappeared at all this year, we were in trouble. I'm not Nostradamus - it was just clear that there were significant flaws in how McLellan coaches his teams.

I do not think there is a fine line between being a good coach and a bad coach, and I don't think McLellan is a good coach. I suspect that if we went back and watched San Jose games from all those years when they were Stanley Cup favourites and cratered out early we'd see all the same things:
- an over-reliance on star players with a focus on just not getting scored on from the supporting cast
- an inability to adjust to counter opposing team strategies
- a stubbornness to stick with things that aren't working
- regression from supporting cast members
- a failure to take advantage of opportunities presented in games, and strange deployment decisions

I don't respect bosses who blame their underlings for things that are clearly still their responsibility. If McLellan gave Johnson the PK, he should have taken it back sometime in 2016-17 as the last two thirds of that season it was a disaster.

The PP was bad for the first half of last year and all of this year. If McLellan really just left it in the hands of Woodcroft and watched it flounder while doing nothing, then he's ultimately to blame for that.

If you're a head coach in football and your team is failing on offence, it isn't enough to just blame the offensive coordinator. If you just sit idly by and watch it fail, then you're getting fired too at season's end. Unfortunately, there's often less accountability with the Oilers than in other sports/businesses and so it wouldn't be surprising to see players and assistants blamed for this.

In short, yes, even if the Oilers were a playoff team - which they clearly are not - I would think we could do much better than Todd McLellan as our coach.

Status quo for management and coaching, given this disaster of a season - the last cheap year of McDavid - is just more rewarding failure for an organization that's a continuing embarrassment to its fans. The Oilers don't deserve us.



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