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 Re: Winds of Change [message #707023 is a reply to message #707016 ]
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RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 11 January 2018 14:52

mightyreasoner wrote on Thu, 11 January 2018 14:27

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 11 January 2018 14:13

According to a tweet by Mark Spector, Chia has sent out an email to all teams saying Slep is now available in trade. Get excited people!!! icon_lol

In all seriousness, I don't see a ton of teams lining up for Slep. I had big hopes for him that he would have a good year as I like his skill set but he hasn't been good.


That Slepyshev is available should have been obvious to 30 other NHL GMs. That no one has called on him should be painfully obvious what his interest is around the league right now. Moving Slepyshev doesn't bring in anything that will help the Oilers, and really which AHL player are you planning on replacing him with where you don't get a little worse?

I'm still skeptical about McLellan's relationship with Russian players (see pregame thread against Nashville), but where we are right now, I'd be shocked is Slepyshev doesn't sign in the KHL this off-season. Which is probably why the Oilers want to trade him and there is little market for him.


So it's McLellan's fault?

I saw a player who was given a tremendous opportunity last year and especially in the playoffs. So much so that I believe the organization made bets on him to be a regular contributor. He gets hurt in the offseason, misses some time. Then when he has come back and played, he has done exactly what? I'm asking because unless I missed something, I have watched a player who I personally had high hopes for do nothing. This team is DYING for a right winger to step up and when he has played, he's invisible. So what exactly are you seeing that is McLellan's fault because I am seeing a player who has pissed an opportunity away but doing nothing when he plays.


No, I wouldn't say that. Slepyshev is a functional, bottom line NHL player, and that's really all he's ever been, and I'd be surprised if he became much more than that. I was never sold on him being a solution in the Top-6 or Top-9, even if Chiarelli seemed to have penciled him in there to start the year.

Some numbers of comparison:

Zack Kassian, 357 games, 0.31 points per game
Jujhar Khaira, 56 games, 0.31 points per game
Drake Caggiula, 92 games, 0.29 points per game
Anton Slepyshev, 70 games, 0.2 points per game
Iiro Pakarinen, 112 games, 0.19 points per game
Anton Lander, 215 games, 0.16 points per game (for comparison's sake)

It's a crass comparison, a small sample size for some, and point production doesn't tell the whole story. Someone like Kassian is probably overpaid for his point production on the bottom line, while it is clear that Lander's NHL production wasn't worthy of the NHL.

What it does indicate to me is that there isn't a lot to choose from between Caggiula, Slepyshev, and Khaira. Of the three Khaira is showing the most promise, and the Oilers would be wise to remember that when negotiating with Caggiula this summer. There's a bit of a logjam in the bottom of the roster, and none of them have really done a lot to differentiate or rise above the others. Slepyshev especially.

But what is also shows is how close these three are together. Why does Caggiula get gifted icetime regularly with McDavid, while Slepyshev can't get out of the pressbox? In many ways, they are remarkably similar players, yet one is gifted unwarranted icetime, while the other sits weeks without playing.

Where I stand is that Slepyshev is an NHLer, a bottom line NHLer, and losing him *shouldn't* hurt the club, though I don't see a lot of better alternatives for the roster in Bakersfield currently. Slepyshev isn't a big loss, in and of himself, but I'm not sure he's had the chances some of his peers have, and I'm not sure we don't lose a little bit of depth when he's gone and we have someone like Joey LaLeggia or Brad Malone in his place.

Regarding McLellan, he's been a head coach in the NHL for ten years, and had a total of six Russian players play for him:

Alexei Semenov (47 games, first year in SJ)
Evgeni Nabokov (133 games, first two years in SJ)
Danill Tarasov (5 games, last year in SJ)
Nikita Nikitin (11 games, first year in EDM)
Nail Yakupov (60 games, first year in EDM)
Anton Slepyshev (70 games, first three years in EDM)

Slepyshev actually has played more for McLellan than any Russian other than Nabokov. Like I mentioned in the other thread, it isn't so much him letting these players go (most are borderline NHLers), it's that the only one he has ever brought in was Slepyshev (and I guess Tarasov). To me, that seems odd. Is that a normal amount for a coach with a decade of head coaching experience? I don't want to make too big a deal of it (and I probably am). I certainly am not saying with certainty anything about McLellan, because how could I? I don't know him. But when I see Caggiula get a push over Slepyshev when so little separates them, when I see Purcell getting the push over Yakupov, when I see how few Russian players McLellan has brought into the NHL or how no Russian NHL veteran player has ever joined a McLellan coached team, when I see how he rarely has any Russians on his team after his first year or two... I just wish there was an example to extinguish my doubts.

[Updated on: Thu, 11 January 2018 15:55]


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