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Re: Oilers Sign Ty Rattie [message #713511 is a reply to message #713506 ]	Mon, 16 April 2018 09:50

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Adam wrote on Mon, 16 April 2018 09:04

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 16 April 2018 08:35

When I say there is nothing to complain about, as I am listening to the morning show, I hear them complain about the "timing" of the Rattie signing. The Oilers need some wingers. With McDavid coming on the books, they need to find cheap wingers that can play. I looked up the league minimum.
http://www.puckreport.com/2009/07/nhl-minimum-wage-maximum-w age-by-year.html

This past season the league minimum was 650k. With all signs pointing to a significant jump in the cap, chances are the league minimum will jump up to be over 700k. So the Oilers literally signed him too what will be barely over league minimum. It's not like the Oilers are currently blessed with a ton of guys on their team and in the minors who can play in the NHL and contribute. So even if he ends up being a depth guy, he's barely making over league minimum. He's shown he can at least contribute at the NHL. I would much rather have a guy that when you put him in the line up might actually contribute than have a guy like Pakarien who's literally just a live body but brings next to nothing to your team. So if they could get him sign to a 1 yr deal at this low of money, why not? What advantage does waiting do? All you do is run the risk of another team offering him more money or more term.

One thing I would love an explanation about is how the media talk show guys actually believe that Vanek will be cheap next year. I have heard Gregor go on and on about Vanek and how the Oilers should go after him because he has shown he can play with good players, produce and will be cheap. Nielsen said similar things in his complaint about "jumping on" signing Rattie. How can they honestly think Vanek will be cheap this year. In 80 games he had 24 goals, 56 pts. In 2 playoff games, he has 2 points. If Vanek has any sort of reasonable playoff, some team, maybe even Columbus, will pay this guy. I used Gagner a while ago. Gagner was brutal for years, signed a 1 year deal in COlumbus for league minimum. He had 1 good season in Columbus and Vancouver jumped all over him and sign him for 3 yrs at 3.5 mill. I could easily see a team jumping on Vanek at 2 yrs at 4 mill.

Listening to the show on the drive in this morning, I didn't think that they were critical of the signing of Rattie. They were simply saying that you can't see that as box ticked and figure you have your top line winger to play with 97 & 93 - and that if they do start the year with Rattie as a top-line guy, then the team is probably in real trouble.

I think that's pretty accurate. He's an AHL first liner, not an NHL one.

Here's the Oilers forwards as it sits right now:

McDavid
Draisaitl
Nugent-Hopkins
Lucic
Strome (RFA)
Kassian
Slepyshev (RFA)
Caggiula (RFA)
Puljujarvi
Pakarinen (RFA)
Rattie
Khaira
Aberg
Yamamoto

There's no one in the minors who you could expect to join that list. Cammalleri is a UFA, but I could see the Oilers signing him back - after all, they decided not to even shop him at the deadline. I think Slepyshev is gone, either to another team or to Russia, and I think Pakarinen is likely toast too.

If we just sign Strome and Caggiula, that leaves 12 forwards. In an ideal world, the Oilers try to add at the top end and probably push Yamamoto back to junior. In a less-than-ideal scenario, we sign Cammalleri, bring in Yamamoto and this year's first round pick and consider the box checked.

One of the startling things about how the team has been built is that the Oilers have committed to the majority of last year's team for next year too. There's not a lot of flexibility in the roster, with only $4MM additional cap space between what we spent last year and what we have for next year. There's $13-15MM to re-sign Strome, Caggiula, Nurse & Benning and whatever additions we can bring in. Best case scenario, Benning & Caggiula are on $1.5MM deals, Strome re-ups at the same $2.5 and Nurse gets $4.0. That's 9.5MM, which leaves 3.5-5.5MM for spending on a winger or defenceman. Maybe you could get Vanek or Grabner on a one-year deal for that kind of change.

I don't have a replacement for him in mind, however I'm not a fan of Caggiula and would not be sad if he didn't return. However, the depth in this org is literal trash. How do they not bring him back? He can put the puck in the net, he is small but plays with grit and isn't afraid to engage. Though, he is a liability on the PK and isn't much of a power play specialist.

Strome should be back. All in all not a terrible 3C, just hope the money matches the contributions. 2.5MM isn't a terrible number.

Benning... anymore than 1.5MM is an overpayment imo, but I don't see how they go lower or even that low. I believe Chia will give him closer to 2MM... sigh.

Which brings me to Nurse. He had a good month of December. He's climbed up the Oilers D chart... which isn't an impressive depth chart. The question here is do his view and the Oilers view on him differ? He likely sees himself as a top 2 d-man on this team, where the Oilers could see him as top-4, and likely as the number 4 man behind Lars and a healthy Klefbom and Sekera. I wouldn't be overly surprised if Nurse is signed for less than 4MM. Or if he's (unfortunately, it would be the wrong decision) the odd man out and used as a trade chip

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