g2k wrote on Sun, 20 January 2019 08:13

Adam wrote on Sun, 20 January 2019 00:50 Oscargasm wrote on Sat, 19 January 2019 08:39 Adam wrote on Fri, 18 January 2019 22:38 g2k wrote on Fri, 18 January 2019 19:24 Quote: The more I think about it and talk it through (in my head), I’m fully supportive of the 1st being shopped for a winger. You can plop me in the “fully against” category. Really, how much is the return going to push the needle for this club? Selling the 1st rounder isn’t going to suddenly make this team a team that’s going to do anything in the playoffs. And just think for a minute of the people pulling the levers here. Good grief man. To me, it’s this short sighted approach that’s been killing this organization. Making moves that don’t make sense, just for the sake of making a move. Sorry, I’m not that bored right now. The problems with it are just too many: - There's an excellent chance that all is available is unrestricted free agents to be...we could give up the first round pick and get only 20-25 games out of the acquired player. - We're a bubble team. We could deal the first rounder, and then still miss the playoffs AND give a pretty good pick to the other team. - We could do both - ending up with no winger, no draft pick and no playoffs. - Given who would be responsible for making the pick, it would be most likely that all of the above came to pass. If the first is moved (as I stated I’m supportive of, meaning I’d rather see the first moved than Jesse) then it would be for a player with term or someone they would have prelim discussions with prior to the trade to resign. It would be a move made before the deadline, not on deadline day, and the pick would be protected in the event we do miss the playoffs. I don’t think those things are out of the realm of doable and they all are very likely. The Oilers, as built presently, are built for a heavier style of game... sounds like the playoffs. Yeah, they’d be underdogs once there, but they’re built for the style of game that the Playoffs bring. Anything can happen once you’re in. I’m not saying (with a straight face) that they have a legit shot at the cup. But there’s no doubt in my mind that they can knock off Calgary or San Jose in a best of 7. Winnipeg, Nashville and Vegas would be tougher based on their makeup. A new, scoring, winger would go a long way in this teams chances of making the playoffs and making some noise once there. You have way more faith than I do in what a desperate Peter Chiarelli might do. I could definitely see him surrendering the first round pick for a guy who isn't an Oiler a week after that draft is over. I can see him in front of the microphones explaining that the trade for the guy with term just wasn't out there, and that this is the best piece we could get for that pick right now, and that the team feels it has an excellent chance to re-sign that player after the season... Indeed. A GM that STILL has not learned a damn thing from his mistakes yet. Look no further than his latest transaction. Sending what little secondary scoring remained on his team away for a player that is marginally better than Keegan Lowe. Then on top of that.....another year of 2.25M for a plug that won’t be in the line up most nights. This transaction was made less than a month ago. I agree with you Adam. Our friend is putting a lot of faith in a bozo that hasn’t learned anything yet. And I fear he’s now in a situation where he will put his own best interests ahead of what’s best for the club. And the deities above him are actually going sit there and let him die on his own sword......at whatever expense is incurred in the process.

Glad to hear I’ve reached the level of friend

I have a strong sense of hope and faith that this team will get the 2nd WC spot, with some help.

This organization has failed to produce a player internally developed, outside of the ‘sure thing’. Maybe it’s patience, or lack thereof. Maybe it’s due to the organization being so flawed internally, which coupled with a lack of patience is a good recipe (not).

I guess what I’m trying to say is I have more faith in this organization trading the 1st for a player that could help in the now (and further), than I do in them keeping the first and wasting yet another young players potential.

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