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 Kr55
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Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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| RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 18 January 2019 12:36 |
First of all, I agree with you 100%. I don't think the team has handled him correctly. It's pretty clear now that he needed to be in the AHL for 2 full seasons at least, maybe all 3 of his ELC and who knows if that would have been enough. That rarely happens if ever for a guy drafted that high but it looks like Puljujarvi needed it to happen.
But a question I have is, what do you think stops a player from doing what got him drafted? If you watch the video you posted, you see a massive player darting all over the ice using his huge size and reach advantage to his advantage, he's got good speed and he's got a big heavy shot that he was using from all over the place.
Flash to the NHL. In year 3, he's 6'4, 200 lbs at barely 20. So he hasn't finished filling out yet and he's already a monster. Yes guys in the NHL are bigger and stronger than junior guys but so is he. Do we see him use his size and reach? Rarely. On the odd time that he actually takes the puck hard towards the goal using his speed and size, he has shown every time he does it, teams have difficulty handling him. Yet you rarely see it. Why? In the video he was using his big, heavy shot a ton. If you look up his stats, in 36 games, he's got 41 shots. So barely a shot per game. WHY?
So yes I agree that the coaches and organization haven't developed him properly BUT there is no way in my opinion that any coach has been telling JP, don't you dare drive that puck to the goal, don't you dare shoot the puck. I've heard Hitch say the opposite when he's talking about him and he keeps saying he needs more of what JP does well. So the coach is saying do what you do and do it more, yet he doesn't.
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I think after 2+ years with Pulju, and now watching those videos, you can understand the weaknesses in his play style that he has not corrected. His play style is very clearly tuned to big ice. In that 2015 WJC video, he is going wide all the time, never having to deal with being cut off. He stick handles slow and far out from his body as well, not at all ready to handle the endless stick checking on smaller ice. Shot is heavy, but he was taking shots from far away far to willingly, he still does that now.
Probably even more than Yak, this kid needed a lot of help from day one. The language barrier right off the bat hurt the orgs ability to really talk through things with him and work through adjustments he had to start making. It's almost like he went 2 years with us learning nothing, because he looked the same to start this year as he does in those videos from 2015. I'd hate to think the kid is unable to learn. I think he may have just been sitting on the sidelines for a lot of this time and the org has been hoping he just figures stuff out on his own from participating in practice. Many adjustments to his game that were needed to be pushed, and you need to actually play against real competition to make those changes. AHL would have been great for him in retrospect, rather than trying to change your game with 6 mins a night, if you even get to play.
Hitch seems to be working more with him, and even though Pulju is getting dropped down now and then, it sounds like the help isn't stopping, he's willing to try to grind things out with the kid. I feel more confident now that if the kid just is never gonna get it, at least someone is trying to get ideas through to him now, unlike before. Just unfortunate we are at the end of his ELC now, and need to start making harder decisions with him. If we're keeping him, hope he is willing to sign a deal like Virtanen, 1.25m or around there.
[Updated on: Fri, 18 January 2019 12:46]
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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