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Re: 2022/23 Season - Your Transaction Lists [message #811480 is a reply to message #811475 ]	Wed, 24 August 2022 18:39

Adam
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Goose wrote on Wed, 24 August 2022 15:27

NetBOG wrote on Wed, 24 August 2022 13:30

I do know its probably going to take 2 1st rounders, a 2nd rounder, Puljujarvi, Barrie, and a top prospect.

That's for no money retained. If you want Chicago to retain some salary, that's going to cost more.

Except that Kane has a no-move clause, and Chicago both wants to be bad, and to shed some of their financial obligations. One would hope that the Oilers learned from the Duncan Keith debacle and actually used the leverage that they are provided with. If the 'Hawks have virtually no one that they are able to trade with, then that impacts the price they are able to extract for him. I'd argue that the Coyotes or Habs or whoever the other intermediary team is is likely to get as much for Kane as the Blackhawks are, given that they are taking on 1.725 salary and $2.5MM cap hit that they don't otherwise have to while the 'Hawks are saving $5MM in cap space and $3.45MM in real money.

Given the salary Barrie has and what he brings, there is an argument to be made that it's a benefit to the Oilers to trade him away, especially if his contributions on the PP are made redundant by Bouchard and his ES contributions can be duplicated or improved at a much lower cost.

Patrick Kane isn't a player that I've ever particularly liked, but you can't deny that he's a tremendous offensive talent. The Oilers would potentially be the first team in almost 30 years with three 100 point players on it (last time was 1995-96).

For what it's worth, I have less of an issue with Patrick Kane than I do with Evander Kane. Patrick has a drunken assault of a taxi driver in his past, which isn't good. He did have an allegation of a sexual assault, but here is the quote from the DA in dismissing it:

Quote:

"The totality of the credible evidence—the proof—does not sufficiently substantiate the complainant’s allegation that she was raped by Patrick Kane and this so-called 'case' is rife with reasonable doubt," Erie County District Attorney Frank A. Sedita III said in a statement. "Accordingly, the Office of the Erie County District Attorney will not present this matter to an Erie County Grand Jury."

That's a little more definitive than you find in a lot of these cases. You don't often see the prosecutor talking about things as "so-called" when letting them go and that suggests there were serious irregularities. The girl's mom faked a stunt with a rape kit which caused a lot of issues, and then there was no civil case, which is what you might expect to follow if there was enough evidence of ill-doing, without enough to satisfy beyond a reasonable doubt. He may have done something, but what we aren't ever going to know and there were reasons to question the narrative by the end.

There is just more gray here, which is always problematic. I don't see the same thing in the Evander Kane issues. There's some significant proof of assault in his Buffalo case, which is ongoing. There's a litany of occasions of bad behaviour and challenged decision making.

Ideally, I'm happy if neither are Oilers, but if I had to choose between one, then I would prefer Patrick, where the allegations are much less clear and serious.

[Updated on: Thu, 25 August 2022 08:03]

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