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Adam Messages: 6844
Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
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PlusOne wrote on Wed, 13 October 2021 14:43 |
Mike wrote on Wed, 13 October 2021 13:28 |
Adam wrote on Wed, 13 October 2021 16:18 |
Mike wrote on Wed, 13 October 2021 12:09 |
Goose wrote on Wed, 13 October 2021 14:02 | Tippett is honestly going to run Drai with McDavid (along with Nurse/Barrie), and then have a vastly inferior 2nd line play with Keith/Ceci all night? The lengths this team goes to to shoot themselves in the face is incredible.
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Makes you wonder if GM and coach are on the same page.
If you were rank the lines, moving Drai up to the top line probably moves it from a 9.5 to a 10, but your 2nd line goes from a 9 to what, a 7?
The lift to line 1 IMO does not even come close to compensating for the drop off to line 2. Both in terms of balance and matchups for the opposition. No need to worry about what line to focus on.
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I know it isn't 5 or 6 games in to the season yet, but I think it's possible that Dave Tippett is beyond his best-before date as a coach. Just ridiculously stubborn, and with virtually no new ideas.
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I imagine "someone" will come running in here saying the game hasn't been played yet so relax, but IF he's really going to trot out 29-97-13 from game 1, he needs to be turfed. And no - a W against the Canucks won't change my mind.
Don't imagine there is a single person out there, especially Holland, who figured we were signing Hyman to an 8 year deal to be RNH's winger. Love the Nuge, but he just is not an NHL C. He can fill in of course, but not as a fixture there.
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It looks like I am in the minority but I don't hate 97/29 together with Hyman and RNH on line 2. Add in JP to line one and that is a all in offense line.
RNH isn't a top line C but he is a decent #2 C and is still the best defensively of the top 3 options. RNH is also at his best when he has someone who plays a good forechecking style opening up space for him. With Yamo on the other side it might open up for him to be the trigger man there.
There will rarely be a game where this 1st line is out scored. If the second line has good chemistry and compliment each other they should also be a positive most nights, even if they are given tougher defensive matchups.
This would leave line 3 and 4 only needing to break even and you win more than you lose.
I think this is a move to see if they can still have secondary scoring while having the top line loaded up. If the second line is not able to gel, handle tougher matchups and be a plus contribution I am guessing Drai and Hyman will switch lines sooner than later.
I would be ok with that as well. I like that the team has 6 legit top 6 skaters where this is an option and it will come down to the biggest net positive from whatever combination works out. When the team has 2 or 3 bottom 6 players in the top 6 it was way too big of a handicap to the bottom 9 loading up the top line.
To the bolded part, I think a top paid FA is expected to be a top contributor but for the Oilers I see that as giving them a legit top 6 winger where they didnt have many. This gives them the flexibility to try this combo out and see what clicks. They know 97/29 can score. They know 93/29 works. They need to see if Hyman makes the second line good enough to have two top lines, might as well do that now rather than a panic move in third period of every game where they are down a goal.
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I think one thing to remember is that Tippett views the top line as a five-man unit. Barrie and Nurse will be stapled to them, so that second line has to make due with a lot of time with Keith/Ceci and if the couple pre-season looks or the mountain of stats from prior seasons are any indication, that's going to be an adventure.
I don't think the second line is well set-up for success, and I don't think it makes much sense because 97 and 29 will still put up points if they're separated.
It's a weak opponent, and it should be a win tonight no matter what goofy decisions Tippett makes, but I do find this disheartening.
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