|
Adam Messages: 6865
Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
6 Cups
|
|
NetBOG wrote on Fri, 25 June 2021 14:32 |
Adam wrote on Fri, 25 June 2021 09:59 |
Adam wrote on Fri, 21 June 2019 19:47 |
NetBOG wrote on Fri, 21 June 2019 19:40 |
Adam wrote on Fri, 21 June 2019 19:38 | Well, the way it's going, we might still get Caufield with our 2nd round pick!
|
Another midget?
Ya, that worked real well last time.
|
I dunno, I think we could've used a kid with a release like that.
|
Still standing by this, a few years later...
|
That you had to draft a defenceman over a winger LISTED at 5'7". Yup.
Caufield has done real well. Hobey Baker and on a massive heater the last few months. Lets wait a little but before we anoint him a superstar.
The truth is, it hasn't even been 2 years since this draft and only 10 or 12 players have even had a chance in the NHL. Defensemen take longer to develop. I remember you stating that Ristolainen was 100% a better player than Nurse when they were 22 years old. How does that take look at this point?
Always, always, always draft Defensemen and big centres and stay away from goalies and tiny wingers.
|
Zegras is 6' tall, if size was the biggest concern.
While I think there is definitely some subjectivity when it comes to drafting teenagers, it's generally a really risky move to buck the consensus. Here's the pre-draft rankings:
http://www.mynhldraft.com/2019-nhl-draft/2019-nhl-draft-rank ings/
15 different ratings here, and 13 put Caufield over Broberg and it was unanimous putting Zegras above him. I think about the other times that the Oilers reached on picks - Niinimaki is famous for that of course. Mikhnov was largely unknown and off the board. M.A. Pouliot played more NHL games than either of those guys and there we at least got something for moving back, but man - it's still painful to see who the team passed up to pick that player because they thought he was best.
Our amateur scouting department hasn't had a whole lot of success other than the no-brainer picks so I think it's pretty fair to question them when they decide they know better than anyone else.
Two years later, with Caufield and Zegras both in the NHL and Broberg having apparently had a bit of a tougher season with some injuries, we're looking like we're behind on the bet.
I don't recall the Ristolainen/Nurse conversation, but Ristolainen probably did have more value when he was scoring 45 points as a 40+ point player and Nurse wasn't yet a full-time NHLer.
The race isn't yet run, but still, if I think what would help the team right now as they need to be a contender in McDavid's prime - a really good winger with a great shot would sure fit the bill well.
I mean, what do you think the likelihood is that the Oilers have both Bouchard AND Broberg in their lineup for many games next year? If that's not happening soon, then when does this pick start paying dividends?
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireLowe #FireBobbyNicks #FireKenHolland #FireKeithGretzky
|
|
|
|
Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: NetBOG on Fri, 21 June 2019 18:58 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: NetBOG on Fri, 21 June 2019 19:02 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Kr55 on Fri, 21 June 2019 19:02 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Kr55 on Tue, 05 December 2023 16:08 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Kr55 on Tue, 05 December 2023 16:38 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Kr55 on Fri, 21 June 2019 19:04 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Kr55 on Fri, 21 June 2019 19:08 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: NetBOG on Fri, 21 June 2019 19:09 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Adam on Fri, 21 June 2019 19:10 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Adam on Fri, 21 June 2019 19:26 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Kr55 on Fri, 21 June 2019 19:21 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: NetBOG on Fri, 21 June 2019 19:31 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Adam on Fri, 21 June 2019 19:38 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: NetBOG on Fri, 21 June 2019 19:40 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Adam on Fri, 21 June 2019 19:47 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Kr55 on Fri, 21 June 2019 20:22 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Kr55 on Fri, 21 June 2019 20:46 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Goose on Fri, 21 June 2019 22:12 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Kr55 on Fri, 21 June 2019 22:16 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Kr55 on Sat, 22 June 2019 09:45 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Adam on Fri, 25 June 2021 09:59 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Kr55 on Fri, 25 June 2021 10:16 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Adam on Fri, 25 June 2021 10:37 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: NetBOG on Fri, 25 June 2021 14:32 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Kr55 on Fri, 25 June 2021 14:44 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: NetBOG on Sun, 27 June 2021 13:39 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: PlusOne on Sun, 27 June 2021 15:46 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: NetBOG on Sun, 27 June 2021 17:40 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Skoobz on Tue, 29 June 2021 09:39 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Kr55 on Tue, 29 June 2021 09:44 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Adam on Tue, 29 June 2021 22:18 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Adam on Fri, 25 June 2021 16:01 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: PlusOne on Sun, 27 June 2021 16:00 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Kr55 on Fri, 21 June 2019 20:36 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Kr55 on Sat, 22 June 2019 19:11 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Adam on Mon, 24 June 2019 08:48 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: mad90 on Fri, 21 June 2019 21:57 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: overdue on Sat, 22 June 2019 10:08 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: ziltoid on Sat, 22 June 2019 21:51 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: PlusOne on Mon, 24 June 2019 11:51 |
httpRe: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: httpRe: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: httpRe: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Xombie on Fri, 05 July 2019 10:45 |
Re: httpRe: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: httpRe: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Mike on Fri, 05 July 2019 11:43 |
Re: httpRe: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: httpRe: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: httpRe: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: httpRe: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: httpRe: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: PlusOne on Fri, 05 July 2019 15:17 |
Re: httpRe: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: httpRe: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Adam on Mon, 08 July 2019 10:11 |
Re: httpRe: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: httpRe: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Adam on Mon, 08 July 2019 10:42 |
Re: httpRe: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: httpRe: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: httpRe: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Magnum on Mon, 29 July 2019 13:07 |
Re: httpRe: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Kr55 on Mon, 29 July 2019 13:11 |
Re: httpRe: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: httpRe: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Adam on Mon, 08 July 2019 10:15 |
Re: httpRe: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: httpRe: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: httpRe: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: httpRe: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: httpRe: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Mike on Fri, 05 July 2019 14:01 |
Re: httpRe: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Xombie on Fri, 05 July 2019 14:07 |
Re: httpRe: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Mike on Fri, 05 July 2019 14:17 |
Re: httpRe: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Xombie on Fri, 05 July 2019 13:56 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: NetBOG on Wed, 31 July 2019 15:21 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Mike on Thu, 01 August 2019 08:24 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Kr55 on Thu, 01 August 2019 10:30 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Kr55 on Fri, 06 March 2020 18:53 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Kr55 on Tue, 23 June 2020 17:32 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Adam on Tue, 23 June 2020 18:15 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Kr55 on Mon, 20 July 2020 13:01 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Adam on Mon, 20 July 2020 13:28 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Adam on Mon, 20 July 2020 13:55 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Adam on Mon, 20 July 2020 16:45 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Adam on Mon, 20 July 2020 13:52 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Kr55 on Fri, 11 September 2020 11:52 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Adam on Mon, 14 September 2020 10:33 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Kr55 on Mon, 14 September 2020 11:51 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Kr55 on Mon, 14 September 2020 12:18 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Magnum on Mon, 14 September 2020 13:16 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Kr55 on Sat, 19 September 2020 13:42 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: inverno76 on Sun, 20 September 2020 08:40 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Kr55 on Sun, 14 November 2021 10:40 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Adam on Sun, 14 November 2021 16:50 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Kr55 on Fri, 19 November 2021 08:32 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Mike on Fri, 19 November 2021 08:36 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: Kr55 on Sat, 05 March 2022 10:31 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
By: NetBOG on Mon, 07 March 2022 13:22 |
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg |
|