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 Re: Winds of Change [message #707032 is a reply to message #707024 ]
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Adam wrote on Thu, 11 January 2018 16:06

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RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 11 January 2018 14:13

According to a tweet by Mark Spector, Chia has sent out an email to all teams saying Slep is now available in trade. Get excited people!!! icon_lol

In all seriousness, I don't see a ton of teams lining up for Slep. I had big hopes for him that he would have a good year as I like his skill set but he hasn't been good.


That Slepyshev is available should have been obvious to 30 other NHL GMs. That no one has called on him should be painfully obvious what his interest is around the league right now. Moving Slepyshev doesn't bring in anything that will help the Oilers, and really which AHL player are you planning on replacing him with where you don't get a little worse?

I'm still skeptical about McLellan's relationship with Russian players (see pregame thread against Nashville), but where we are right now, I'd be shocked is Slepyshev doesn't sign in the KHL this off-season. Which is probably why the Oilers want to trade him and there is little market for him.


So it's McLellan's fault?

I saw a player who was given a tremendous opportunity last year and especially in the playoffs. So much so that I believe the organization made bets on him to be a regular contributor. He gets hurt in the offseason, misses some time. Then when he has come back and played, he has done exactly what? I'm asking because unless I missed something, I have watched a player who I personally had high hopes for do nothing. This team is DYING for a right winger to step up and when he has played, he's invisible. So what exactly are you seeing that is McLellan's fault because I am seeing a player who has pissed an opportunity away but doing nothing when he plays.


Well a couple issues:

1) Is the production the issue? or is it the expectations that were the issue. Slepyshev has a heavy shot, and so we've heard lots from the Oilers and the Oilers media about what he could be, but he never had the production at any level to suggest that he would be more than a bottom-six player.

He scored 10 points in 41 games last year (0.24 points per game), and 3 points in 12 games in the playoffs (0.25 points per game).

2) This year he was rushed back early from injury twice - we know this because he was injured again very quickly after returning to the lineup with the same or similar ailment. Twice. He has 3 points in 18 games (0.17 points per game). He's not far off his production despite A) nagging injuries that have kept him out of a significant portion of the season, B) little opportunity to play with top players C) no powerplay time and D) limited ice-time. Slepyshev has not played more than 14:28 in any game this year (his only game over 14 minutes). He's had three games under 10 minutes and lots in the 10-12 minute range.

He hasn't been much different this year than he was last year, despite all of that, and especially despite the injuries, so I don't think it makes a lot of sense to give up on the player.

For the record, I don't blame the coach much on this one. He hasn't played the line from the playoffs together, but people forget that Slepyshev didn't score any more points in the playoffs than he did in the regular season. He just had a couple of big timely goals that were memorable. Same with Caggiula for that matter...

Every team needs bottom-six guys, so it's not

Well at least we agree on it not being McLellan's fault. When it comes to Slep or any player, you can put blame on the coach for not playing a player, you can put blame on the coach for not playing a player enough and you can put blame on a coach for not putting him in a position to succeed. Putting him in a position to succeed could be anything from who he puts on the players line,what situations he puts him in or if he puts a player into a position he's not ready for. What a coach can't be blamed for in my opinion is effort.

I wrongly had high hopes for Slep. I like his combination of size, speed and big shot. When he was on, Slep while not a banger, used his size to his advantage. He could go into the corners and get pucks. He had the speed to get to the spots he needed to be and to get too pucks, at times he showed some flashes of offensive ability and he's got a good shot. The problem is he didn't bring it much. He didn't skate, he didn't use his size, he didn't use his shot, he was just out there taking up space. I still believe he has the skill set, the size and speed to be an effective top 9 forward the problem is he has to want to be that in the NHL and to do that, he has to bring when he plays. He doesn't bring it and that's 100% on him. Too bad.



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