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Dominant for most of the game. Connor Brown the only consistently useless Oiler Dead last tonight analytically and visually.

Team looks competent in most situations on the ice, which is not normal, but I hope it's a new normal.

Nice goal by Bedard. I felt like McDavid was trying extra hard to force things to try to get his own highlight, but didn't quite hit the mark. Oh well, 2 points anyways. And Gagner 3.0 continues to amaze.

[Updated on: Tue, 12 December 2023 23:24]

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

Kr55 wrote on Tue, 12 December 2023 23:22

Connor Brown the only consistently useless Oiler Dead last tonight analytically and visually.

Was 14 rows behind the bench last night. Draisaitl was visibly agitated about something after some shifts. Pissy, if you will.

Brown looks like a career AHL'er filling in due to a raft of injuries. He's starkly out of place out there.

#firebob #screwitjustselltheteam #ownerisacreep

Dragon_Matt wrote on Wed, 13 December 2023 11:15

At least he's a league minimum contract though. Nothing coming to bite us for that one.

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

g2k wrote on Wed, 13 December 2023 10:43

Kr55 wrote on Tue, 12 December 2023 23:22 Connor Brown the only consistently useless Oiler Dead last tonight analytically and visually. Was 14 rows behind the bench last night. Draisaitl was visibly agitated about something after some shifts. Pissy, if you will. Brown looks like a career AHL'er filling in due to a raft of injuries. He's starkly out of place out there.

It's kind of crazy how hard they've tried to fit that square peg in to the round hole. I always wonder with things like that how much influence the GM is using to try to make his atrocious signing (and even more atrocious decision to keep him after 9 games) look better by hopefully getting some level of production.

But between Kane's inability to make a pass and Brown's inability to do anything, it's not great for Leon.

"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireLowe #FireBobbyNicks #FireKenHolland #FireKeithGretzky

Clean house or bust

#firebob #screwitjustselltheteam #ownerisacreep

Adam wrote on Wed, 13 December 2023 11:30

g2k wrote on Wed, 13 December 2023 10:43 Kr55 wrote on Tue, 12 December 2023 23:22 Connor Brown the only consistently useless Oiler Dead last tonight analytically and visually. Was 14 rows behind the bench last night. Draisaitl was visibly agitated about something after some shifts. Pissy, if you will. Brown looks like a career AHL'er filling in due to a raft of injuries. He's starkly out of place out there. It's kind of crazy how hard they've tried to fit that square peg in to the round hole. I always wonder with things like that how much influence the GM is using to try to make his atrocious signing (and even more atrocious decision to keep him after 9 games) look better by hopefully getting some level of production. But between Kane's inability to make a pass and Brown's inability to do anything, it's not great for Leon.

Or a bad goalie signing by the GM, that’s taking a ton of starts from Rodrigue and hampering his development in the minors

But that’s more to have a “possible” NHL backup for Starter Stu, than it is the GM trying to save face. I’m just not convinced that Campbell will ever be that guy. His numbers are pretty weak against AHL talent. He seems terminally broken. The Skinner/Pickard tandem doesn’t give me much comfort. Unless somehow Holland can parachute a goalie into this organization, the conversation of bringing Rodrigue up needs to start happening. He’s only had 5 AHL starts this season.

#firebob #screwitjustselltheteam #ownerisacreep

g2k wrote on Wed, 13 December 2023 17:39

Adam wrote on Wed, 13 December 2023 11:30 g2k wrote on Wed, 13 December 2023 10:43 Kr55 wrote on Tue, 12 December 2023 23:22 Connor Brown the only consistently useless Oiler Dead last tonight analytically and visually. Was 14 rows behind the bench last night. Draisaitl was visibly agitated about something after some shifts. Pissy, if you will. Brown looks like a career AHL'er filling in due to a raft of injuries. He's starkly out of place out there. It's kind of crazy how hard they've tried to fit that square peg in to the round hole. I always wonder with things like that how much influence the GM is using to try to make his atrocious signing (and even more atrocious decision to keep him after 9 games) look better by hopefully getting some level of production. But between Kane's inability to make a pass and Brown's inability to do anything, it's not great for Leon. Or a bad goalie signing by the GM, that’s taking a ton of starts from Rodrigue and hampering his development in the minors But that’s more to have a “possible” NHL backup for Starter Stu, than it is the GM trying to save face. I’m just not convinced that Campbell will ever be that guy. His numbers are pretty weak against AHL talent. He seems terminally broken. The Skinner/Pickard tandem doesn’t give me much comfort. Unless somehow Holland can parachute a goalie into this organization, the conversation of bringing Rodrigue up needs to start happening. He’s only had 5 AHL starts this season.

The AHL goalie handling since the demotion sure seems to suggest that the Oilers haven't given up at all on Campbell. They're sacrificing the development of the guy who's the organization's best chance as goalie of the future in order to keep running out a shattered wreck of a netminder to get lit up by AHL shooters again and again.

"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireLowe #FireBobbyNicks #FireKenHolland #FireKeithGretzky

inverno76 wrote on Wed, 13 December 2023 12:53

g2k wrote on Wed, 13 December 2023 10:43 Kr55 wrote on Tue, 12 December 2023 23:22 Connor Brown the only consistently useless Oiler Dead last tonight analytically and visually. Was 14 rows behind the bench last night. Draisaitl was visibly agitated about something after some shifts. Pissy, if you will. Brown looks like a career AHL'er filling in due to a raft of injuries. He's starkly out of place out there. If Brown could be traded, would the bonus follow him to the acquiring team?

I'm not certain - but I think it might be pro-rated.

"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireLowe #FireBobbyNicks #FireKenHolland #FireKeithGretzky

Mike wrote on Thu, 14 December 2023 06:41

Adam wrote on Wed, 13 December 2023 18:57 inverno76 wrote on Wed, 13 December 2023 12:53 g2k wrote on Wed, 13 December 2023 10:43 Kr55 wrote on Tue, 12 December 2023 23:22 Connor Brown the only consistently useless Oiler Dead last tonight analytically and visually. Was 14 rows behind the bench last night. Draisaitl was visibly agitated about something after some shifts. Pissy, if you will. Brown looks like a career AHL'er filling in due to a raft of injuries. He's starkly out of place out there. If Brown could be traded, would the bonus follow him to the acquiring team? I'm not certain - but I think it might be pro-rated. Should most definitely be looked at. Like now. If it's pro-rated, we've played just over 30% of the season, so we could save $2.2M next year? That's worth a pick at least IMO. 1 assist and a team worst -8 in 20 games. If the bonus does follow him out the door, they really need to pay the price to flush this mistake sooner rather than later.

Looks like team bonus is hit with pays 100%

Jagr 14/15. Jagr had a 45 game 2M bonus. He was traded to Florida after 57 games played. Lucky Lou confirmed Jersey pays it all.


https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/12388464/florida-panther s-acquire-jaromir-jagr-new-jersey-devils-two-draft-picks

The Panthers will pick up the full prorated remainder of Jagr's $3.5 million salary, but the Devils are responsible for his $2 million games-played bonus, which he has already achieved, Lamoriello confirmed to ESPN.com's Pierre LeBrun.

[Updated on: Thu, 14 December 2023 09:54]

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 14 December 2023 09:43

Mike wrote on Thu, 14 December 2023 06:41 Adam wrote on Wed, 13 December 2023 18:57 inverno76 wrote on Wed, 13 December 2023 12:53 g2k wrote on Wed, 13 December 2023 10:43 Kr55 wrote on Tue, 12 December 2023 23:22 Connor Brown the only consistently useless Oiler Dead last tonight analytically and visually. Was 14 rows behind the bench last night. Draisaitl was visibly agitated about something after some shifts. Pissy, if you will. Brown looks like a career AHL'er filling in due to a raft of injuries. He's starkly out of place out there. If Brown could be traded, would the bonus follow him to the acquiring team? I'm not certain - but I think it might be pro-rated. Should most definitely be looked at. Like now. If it's pro-rated, we've played just over 30% of the season, so we could save $2.2M next year? That's worth a pick at least IMO. 1 assist and a team worst -8 in 20 games. If the bonus does follow him out the door, they really need to pay the price to flush this mistake sooner rather than later. Looks like team bonus is hit with pays 100% Jagr 14/15. Jagr had a 45 game 2M bonus. He was traded to Florida after 57 games played. Lucky Lou confirmed Jersey pays it all. https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/12388464/florida-panther s-acquire-jaromir-jagr-new-jersey-devils-two-draft-picks The Panthers will pick up the full prorated remainder of Jagr's $3.5 million salary, but the Devils are responsible for his $2 million games-played bonus, which he has already achieved, Lamoriello confirmed to ESPN.com's Pierre LeBrun.

The Oilers would have had to pay it - but would the cap hit be pro-rated?

And I don't know who would take Brown now. 0-1-1 playing mostly top-6 minutes with the best players in the league? How do you convince anyone that they should trade for him? Other than packaging good assets with him.

"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireLowe #FireBobbyNicks #FireKenHolland #FireKeithGretzky

[Updated on: Wed, 13 December 2023 08:22]