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 CrusaderPi
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Revenue for any team is between 66 and 105M and all teams have operating losses between 20 and 56M. It's crazy team value ballooned last season.
East of the Rockies and west of the rest.
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NetBOG
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| GabbyDugan wrote on Wed, 08 December 2021 17:29 |
Must be Oiler management is doing a lot of things right.
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Must be $500+ million in free city money for a new arena.
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RDOilerfan
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400 mill for the Yotes? I googled what it costs to buy the Yotes in 2019 and Forbes was saying it cost around 300 mill. Nice potential profit for a team that to start the season only had 1 yr left on a place to play, now they might be out of a play to play in a couple of weeks for being way behind on taxes and rent.
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oilfan94
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| RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 09 December 2021 11:55 |
400 mill for the Yotes? I googled what it costs to buy the Yotes in 2019 and Forbes was saying it cost around 300 mill. Nice potential profit for a team that to start the season only had 1 yr left on a place to play, now they might be out of a play to play in a couple of weeks for being way behind on taxes and rent.
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If I am a multimillionaire then I am looking to buy the Coyotes, move them to Houston and sell them in 5-10 years for a nice profit. I think Houston would do great supporting a team, and there is built in history with the Aeros of the WHA and the Howe family. In 10 years you could turn that $400M into $1B (with the help of some inflation too).
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NetBOG
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| oilfan94 wrote on Thu, 09 December 2021 10:15 |
| RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 09 December 2021 11:55 |
400 mill for the Yotes? I googled what it costs to buy the Yotes in 2019 and Forbes was saying it cost around 300 mill. Nice potential profit for a team that to start the season only had 1 yr left on a place to play, now they might be out of a play to play in a couple of weeks for being way behind on taxes and rent.
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If I am a multimillionaire then I am looking to buy the Coyotes, move them to Houston and sell them in 5-10 years for a nice profit. I think Houston would do great supporting a team, and there is built in history with the Aeros of the WHA and the Howe family. In 10 years you could turn that $400M into $1B (with the help of some inflation too).
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The arena in Houston isn't capable (at this point) of creating ice. Tillman Fertita ripped all the ice making equipment out to make room for a VIP lounge. Anyone serious about going to Houston would need pockets deep enough to buy a new building (and keep the team afloat until it gets built. The easier alternative would be KC, which has an empty building that you can probably get a sweetheart lease deal on. Quebec is a no-go because they can't get the alignment to work. Detroit and/or Columbus will not agree to move back to the west.
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RDOilerfan
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Registered: January 2016
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| NetBOG wrote on Thu, 09 December 2021 10:35 |
| oilfan94 wrote on Thu, 09 December 2021 10:15 |
| RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 09 December 2021 11:55 |
400 mill for the Yotes? I googled what it costs to buy the Yotes in 2019 and Forbes was saying it cost around 300 mill. Nice potential profit for a team that to start the season only had 1 yr left on a place to play, now they might be out of a play to play in a couple of weeks for being way behind on taxes and rent.
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If I am a multimillionaire then I am looking to buy the Coyotes, move them to Houston and sell them in 5-10 years for a nice profit. I think Houston would do great supporting a team, and there is built in history with the Aeros of the WHA and the Howe family. In 10 years you could turn that $400M into $1B (with the help of some inflation too).
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The arena in Houston isn't capable (at this point) of creating ice. Tillman Fertita ripped all the ice making equipment out to make room for a VIP lounge. Anyone serious about going to Houston would need pockets deep enough to buy a new building (and keep the team afloat until it gets built. The easier alternative would be KC, which has an empty building that you can probably get a sweetheart lease deal on. Quebec is a no-go because they can't get the alignment to work. Detroit and/or Columbus will not agree to move back to the west.
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Is KC a good hockey market though? In Houston you have the natural rival of Dallas and they have a history of hockey teams there at fairly high levels.
At some point Bettman has to just accept it's not going to work. No one will accuse the guy for not doing everything to try and keep that franchise there. Multiple owners, leagues owned it for a bit. Now their City is fed up, team isn't paying their bills. Just end it Gary!
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CrusaderPi
Messages: 15075
Registered: December 2003
Location: AB Highway 100
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| NetBOG wrote on Thu, 09 December 2021 10:35 |
| oilfan94 wrote on Thu, 09 December 2021 10:15 |
| RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 09 December 2021 11:55 |
400 mill for the Yotes? I googled what it costs to buy the Yotes in 2019 and Forbes was saying it cost around 300 mill. Nice potential profit for a team that to start the season only had 1 yr left on a place to play, now they might be out of a play to play in a couple of weeks for being way behind on taxes and rent.
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If I am a multimillionaire then I am looking to buy the Coyotes, move them to Houston and sell them in 5-10 years for a nice profit. I think Houston would do great supporting a team, and there is built in history with the Aeros of the WHA and the Howe family. In 10 years you could turn that $400M into $1B (with the help of some inflation too).
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The arena in Houston isn't capable (at this point) of creating ice. Tillman Fertita ripped all the ice making equipment out to make room for a VIP lounge. Anyone serious about going to Houston would need pockets deep enough to buy a new building (and keep the team afloat until it gets built. The easier alternative would be KC, which has an empty building that you can probably get a sweetheart lease deal on. Quebec is a no-go because they can't get the alignment to work. Detroit and/or Columbus will not agree to move back to the west.
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I did not know that about the Houston arena. Great information.
I now agree KC is the obvious and easiest choice... which means the NHL will never consider it. Two idiotic alternatives off the top of my head: make the Nords play in the west or drop a team in Portland (moving Vegas to the central).
East of the Rockies and west of the rest.
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oilfan94
Messages: 348
Registered: June 2006
Location: USA
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| CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 09 December 2021 12:45 |
| NetBOG wrote on Thu, 09 December 2021 10:35 |
| oilfan94 wrote on Thu, 09 December 2021 10:15 |
| RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 09 December 2021 11:55 |
400 mill for the Yotes? I googled what it costs to buy the Yotes in 2019 and Forbes was saying it cost around 300 mill. Nice potential profit for a team that to start the season only had 1 yr left on a place to play, now they might be out of a play to play in a couple of weeks for being way behind on taxes and rent.
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If I am a multimillionaire then I am looking to buy the Coyotes, move them to Houston and sell them in 5-10 years for a nice profit. I think Houston would do great supporting a team, and there is built in history with the Aeros of the WHA and the Howe family. In 10 years you could turn that $400M into $1B (with the help of some inflation too).
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The arena in Houston isn't capable (at this point) of creating ice. Tillman Fertita ripped all the ice making equipment out to make room for a VIP lounge. Anyone serious about going to Houston would need pockets deep enough to buy a new building (and keep the team afloat until it gets built. The easier alternative would be KC, which has an empty building that you can probably get a sweetheart lease deal on. Quebec is a no-go because they can't get the alignment to work. Detroit and/or Columbus will not agree to move back to the west.
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I did not know that about the Houston arena. Great information.
I now agree KC is the obvious and easiest choice... which means the NHL will never consider it. Two idiotic alternatives off the top of my head: make the Nords play in the west or drop a team in Portland (moving Vegas to the central).
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I didn't realize that Houston didn't have the arena ready for hockey. If the worst happened and the Coyotes couldn't play in Glendale after Dec 20th, I wonder what the NHL does? Do they find just any arena to put them in to get games played?
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Kr55
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Location: Edmonton
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| RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 09 December 2021 09:55 |
400 mill for the Yotes? I googled what it costs to buy the Yotes in 2019 and Forbes was saying it cost around 300 mill. Nice potential profit for a team that to start the season only had 1 yr left on a place to play, now they might be out of a play to play in a couple of weeks for being way behind on taxes and rent.
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To be fair though, they still have the rights to Loui Eriksson.
"The Edmonton Oilers are not where they should be right now and that is unacceptable. We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
-Kevin Lowe, April 2013
"Next year (15/16) I would forecast as another developmental year"
- #2, April 2015
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RDOilerfan
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Registered: January 2016
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It's bad enough that the City cancelled their lease do they were going to be homeless at the end of this season but to be way behind on your bills to the point they are going to kick you out in a little over a week? What a joke they are.
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