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Carey Price to miss the start of the season. Entering NHL's player assistance program. Bergevin implies it is a mental health issue.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/canadiens-carey-price-v oluntarily-enters-nhls-player-assistance-program/



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Kr55 wrote on Thu, 07 October 2021 09:36

Carey Price to miss the start of the season. Entering NHL's player assistance program. Bergevin implies it is a mental health issue.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/canadiens-carey-price-v oluntarily-enters-nhls-player-assistance-program/


I wish him the best of course but am curious as to what the issue might be. Perhaps depression at having that Cup run end as it did given that it was his first ever Finals series after such a long and distinguished career?



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Ragnarok73 wrote on Sun, 10 October 2021 14:13

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 07 October 2021 09:36

Carey Price to miss the start of the season. Entering NHL's player assistance program. Bergevin implies it is a mental health issue.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/canadiens-carey-price-v oluntarily-enters-nhls-player-assistance-program/


I wish him the best of course but am curious as to what the issue might be. Perhaps depression at having that Cup run end as it did given that it was his first ever Finals series after such a long and distinguished career?

My guess would be pain killers after knee surgery. But that's just a guess.



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Ragnarok73 wrote on Sun, 10 October 2021 14:13

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 07 October 2021 09:36

Carey Price to miss the start of the season. Entering NHL's player assistance program. Bergevin implies it is a mental health issue.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/canadiens-carey-price-v oluntarily-enters-nhls-player-assistance-program/


I wish him the best of course but am curious as to what the issue might be. Perhaps depression at having that Cup run end as it did given that it was his first ever Finals series after such a long and distinguished career?

My guess would be pain killers after knee surgery. But that's just a guess.


There were 3 guys on XM NHL radio, not sure about 2 of them but one was Bruce Boudreau. They were talking as if it was confirmed it was mental health related.
I missed the first couple minutes so not sure if it was a discussion based on an assumption or if it was actually confirmed.



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For 550M or whatever it was, Seattle can't have their first ever game at home? Had to start in Vegas.

Looks like some Kraken got exposed to COVID partying in Vegas. 5 players on watch list.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/kraken-place-five-playe rs-covid-19-protocol-eve-opener/



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Kr55 wrote on Tue, 12 October 2021 09:52

For 550M or whatever it was, Seattle can't have their first ever game at home? Had to start in Vegas.

Looks like some Kraken got exposed to COVID partying in Vegas. 5 players on watch list.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/kraken-place-five-playe rs-covid-19-protocol-eve-opener/

The NHL started Vegas on the road too. I think it's intentional to give a team of misfits some bonding time before they have to deal with all the pomp and circumstance of a franchise's first home opener. Vegas had a butter soft opening month in their first season. Seattle's schedule is almost as soft, but the 5 game trip, including an eastern swing to start, is... weird.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 12 October 2021 09:59

Kr55 wrote on Tue, 12 October 2021 09:52

For 550M or whatever it was, Seattle can't have their first ever game at home? Had to start in Vegas.

Looks like some Kraken got exposed to COVID partying in Vegas. 5 players on watch list.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/kraken-place-five-playe rs-covid-19-protocol-eve-opener/

The NHL started Vegas on the road too. I think it's intentional to give a team of misfits some bonding time before they have to deal with all the pomp and circumstance of a franchise's first home opener. Vegas had a butter soft opening month in their first season. Seattle's schedule is almost as soft, but the 5 game trip, including an eastern swing to start, is... weird.


Ah makes sense. Definitely gonna be some fun adversity too to start this one off :)

Wonder if the negative tests can come fast enough for these guys to have a shot to play. Hope we don't already start with postponed games. I'm sure they will find a way to get the Oilers to play 3 games in 3 days or at least 4 in 5 days to help make things work for other teams.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 12 October 2021 09:59

Kr55 wrote on Tue, 12 October 2021 09:52

For 550M or whatever it was, Seattle can't have their first ever game at home? Had to start in Vegas.

Looks like some Kraken got exposed to COVID partying in Vegas. 5 players on watch list.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/kraken-place-five-playe rs-covid-19-protocol-eve-opener/

The NHL started Vegas on the road too. I think it's intentional to give a team of misfits some bonding time before they have to deal with all the pomp and circumstance of a franchise's first home opener. Vegas had a butter soft opening month in their first season. Seattle's schedule is almost as soft, but the 5 game trip, including an eastern swing to start, is... weird.


The building supposedly isn't ready until the end of the month.



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NetBOG wrote on Tue, 12 October 2021 14:29

CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 12 October 2021 09:59

Kr55 wrote on Tue, 12 October 2021 09:52

For 550M or whatever it was, Seattle can't have their first ever game at home? Had to start in Vegas.

Looks like some Kraken got exposed to COVID partying in Vegas. 5 players on watch list.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/kraken-place-five-playe rs-covid-19-protocol-eve-opener/

The NHL started Vegas on the road too. I think it's intentional to give a team of misfits some bonding time before they have to deal with all the pomp and circumstance of a franchise's first home opener. Vegas had a butter soft opening month in their first season. Seattle's schedule is almost as soft, but the 5 game trip, including an eastern swing to start, is... weird.


The building supposedly isn't ready until the end of the month.

The five game road trip suddenly makes more sense.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 12 October 2021 14:43

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CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 12 October 2021 09:59

Kr55 wrote on Tue, 12 October 2021 09:52

For 550M or whatever it was, Seattle can't have their first ever game at home? Had to start in Vegas.

Looks like some Kraken got exposed to COVID partying in Vegas. 5 players on watch list.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/kraken-place-five-playe rs-covid-19-protocol-eve-opener/

The NHL started Vegas on the road too. I think it's intentional to give a team of misfits some bonding time before they have to deal with all the pomp and circumstance of a franchise's first home opener. Vegas had a butter soft opening month in their first season. Seattle's schedule is almost as soft, but the 5 game trip, including an eastern swing to start, is... weird.


The building supposedly isn't ready until the end of the month.

The five game road trip suddenly makes more sense.


Isles also start on a 13 game road trip because building not ready until mid-November. And I hear they've been working double time just to get the building done by then.



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Kraken getting taken behind the woodshed by Vegas. I don't care what the experts say, Kraken are going to be bad. Knights, Oilers, Nucks, Flames, and Kings are battling for 4 spots.


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Kraken getting taken behind the woodshed by Vegas. I don't care what the experts say, Kraken are going to be bad. Knights, Oilers, Nucks, Flames, and Kings are battling for 4 spots.


They came back to tie it at 3... before Vegas scored on a pretty clear outside the foot kick that was called a good goal. Vegas up 4-3 with about 8 to go. Not sure how that was ruled a good goal. Bc Vegas, I guess?



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Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 12 October 2021 22:41

NetBOG wrote on Tue, 12 October 2021 21:40

Kraken getting taken behind the woodshed by Vegas. I don't care what the experts say, Kraken are going to be bad. Knights, Oilers, Nucks, Flames, and Kings are battling for 4 spots.


They came back to tie it at 3... before Vegas scored on a pretty clear outside the foot kick that was called a good goal. Vegas up 4-3 with about 8 to go. Not sure how that was ruled a good goal. Bc Vegas, I guess?

Hate to say one for one but Larsson made a questionable pass that lead to the 4-3 goal.



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Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 13 October 2021 00:41

NetBOG wrote on Tue, 12 October 2021 21:40

Kraken getting taken behind the woodshed by Vegas. I don't care what the experts say, Kraken are going to be bad. Knights, Oilers, Nucks, Flames, and Kings are battling for 4 spots.


They came back to tie it at 3... before Vegas scored on a pretty clear outside the foot kick that was called a good goal. Vegas up 4-3 with about 8 to go. Not sure how that was ruled a good goal. Bc Vegas, I guess?


Not sure how it gets much more distinct of a kicking motion than that... You can say it's because of the Golden Knights, but wouldn't the league want the Kraken to do well too? I think they just flat got it wrong.



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oilfan94 wrote on Wed, 13 October 2021 08:42

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NetBOG wrote on Tue, 12 October 2021 21:40

Kraken getting taken behind the woodshed by Vegas. I don't care what the experts say, Kraken are going to be bad. Knights, Oilers, Nucks, Flames, and Kings are battling for 4 spots.


They came back to tie it at 3... before Vegas scored on a pretty clear outside the foot kick that was called a good goal. Vegas up 4-3 with about 8 to go. Not sure how that was ruled a good goal. Bc Vegas, I guess?


Not sure how it gets much more distinct of a kicking motion than that... You can say it's because of the Golden Knights, but wouldn't the league want the Kraken to do well too? I think they just flat got it wrong.


Yeah I hate any goal that resembles a kicking motion, its not soccer, you don't want a bunch of guys playing footie instead of stick handling.. deflections OK but on purpose redirections that involves the leg and foot moving is BS.. IMHO.

I thought that goal was the result of the guy moving his foot.. Kraken got ripped.



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Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 13 October 2021 14:31

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NetBOG wrote on Tue, 12 October 2021 21:40

Kraken getting taken behind the woodshed by Vegas. I don't care what the experts say, Kraken are going to be bad. Knights, Oilers, Nucks, Flames, and Kings are battling for 4 spots.


They came back to tie it at 3... before Vegas scored on a pretty clear outside the foot kick that was called a good goal. Vegas up 4-3 with about 8 to go. Not sure how that was ruled a good goal. Bc Vegas, I guess?


Not sure how it gets much more distinct of a kicking motion than that... You can say it's because of the Golden Knights, but wouldn't the league want the Kraken to do well too? I think they just flat got it wrong.


Yeah I hate any goal that resembles a kicking motion, its not soccer, you don't want a bunch of guys playing footie instead of stick handling.. deflections OK but on purpose redirections that involves the leg and foot moving is BS.. IMHO.

I thought that goal was the result of the guy moving his foot.. Kraken got ripped.


I don't care if they allow kicking goals, or don't, I just want them to make it black and white. Anything off the skate is a goal or it isn't. Almost every night there is a judgment call on if it was incidental, deflected or kicked. I would guess about 30% aren't obvious leading to more ref complaints. I am not one of those that thinks the reffing is terrible or biased but I do think the league sets them up for failure when you have rules that require an opinion and not simply looking to see what happened.



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I don't care if they allow kicking goals, or don't, I just want them to make it black and white. Anything off the skate is a goal or it isn't. Almost every night there is a judgment call on if it was incidental, deflected or kicked. I would guess about 30% aren't obvious leading to more ref complaints. I am not one of those that thinks the reffing is terrible or biased but I do think the league sets them up for failure when you have rules that require an opinion and not simply looking to see what happened.



I actually don't mind the rule as it is, and thought last night was pretty clearly a goal so I have no problem with it. Yes, he moved his foot to deflect it in the right direction, but I don't think he 'kicked' it.

For me, more goals are generally better, so if guys are intentionally deflecting stuff in off their skate, I'm good with that. At the same time, I don't want guys to be trying to kick the puck in on a goal mouth scramble, and some guy gets his radial artery severed. I think this finds the right balance.



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I don't care if they allow kicking goals, or don't, I just want them to make it black and white. Anything off the skate is a goal or it isn't. Almost every night there is a judgment call on if it was incidental, deflected or kicked. I would guess about 30% aren't obvious leading to more ref complaints. I am not one of those that thinks the reffing is terrible or biased but I do think the league sets them up for failure when you have rules that require an opinion and not simply looking to see what happened.



I actually don't mind the rule as it is, and thought last night was pretty clearly a goal so I have no problem with it. Yes, he moved his foot to deflect it in the right direction, but I don't think he 'kicked' it.

For me, more goals are generally better, so if guys are intentionally deflecting stuff in off their skate, I'm good with that. At the same time, I don't want guys to be trying to kick the puck in on a goal mouth scramble, and some guy gets his radial artery severed. I think this finds the right balance.

it's the wording that's the problem. "distinct kicking motion" doesn't only mean back and then forward. this goal was as borderline as they go, he deflected it with his skate but kicked his foot forward to get it in position. If it's my team scoring I am yelling that it was a goal, but if my team gets scored on i feel like there's a case too. I say either you can score of your foot, or you can't. And I lean towards can, because everyone likes goals.



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Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 13 October 2021 14:31

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Kraken getting taken behind the woodshed by Vegas. I don't care what the experts say, Kraken are going to be bad. Knights, Oilers, Nucks, Flames, and Kings are battling for 4 spots.


They came back to tie it at 3... before Vegas scored on a pretty clear outside the foot kick that was called a good goal. Vegas up 4-3 with about 8 to go. Not sure how that was ruled a good goal. Bc Vegas, I guess?


Not sure how it gets much more distinct of a kicking motion than that... You can say it's because of the Golden Knights, but wouldn't the league want the Kraken to do well too? I think they just flat got it wrong.


Yeah I hate any goal that resembles a kicking motion, its not soccer, you don't want a bunch of guys playing footie instead of stick handling.. deflections OK but on purpose redirections that involves the leg and foot moving is BS.. IMHO.

I thought that goal was the result of the guy moving his foot.. Kraken got ripped.


Totally. He brought the skate up off the ice prior to the kick. Deciding goal as well. Pretty poor.



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the 'no kicking the goal in' rule was created in 1929-30. I'd say we have upgraded the safety of everyone on the ice to the point where you should just allow it. Have you ever tried to kick a puck and caught your edge? If hurts like a mother and is a great way to tweak a knee, so i don't think it's going to be a hugely popular way of getting the puck in. If you just count all the 'kick in' goals in a season, across 1312 games, I bet there's 15 goals like that a season currently. You make it legal, it will rise to about 20-25.
It'll be harder to defend the guy beside the net as well, you can't just tie up his stick to make his useless anymore.



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Dragon_Matt wrote on Thu, 14 October 2021 14:30

the 'no kicking the goal in' rule was created in 1929-30. I'd say we have upgraded the safety of everyone on the ice to the point where you should just allow it. Have you ever tried to kick a puck and caught your edge? If hurts like a mother and is a great way to tweak a knee, so i don't think it's going to be a hugely popular way of getting the puck in. If you just count all the 'kick in' goals in a season, across 1312 games, I bet there's 15 goals like that a season currently. You make it legal, it will rise to about 20-25.
It'll be harder to defend the guy beside the net as well, you can't just tie up his stick to make his useless anymore.


I think it's still a safety risk. If the puck is in a scramble in the crease and someone starts kicking at it, because his stick is tied up, it has the potential to really injure someone. Remember, you've got a sharp blade attached to the foot.

I think they should make the rule more clear, however, I don't think it should be stricken from the books - and I'm a big fan of more goals. I'm fine with killing video replay on offsides and goalie interference. I'm fine with calling the rule book and having more powerplays. But actually full-on kicking the puck? Nah.



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Adam wrote on Thu, 14 October 2021 16:26

Dragon_Matt wrote on Thu, 14 October 2021 14:30

the 'no kicking the goal in' rule was created in 1929-30. I'd say we have upgraded the safety of everyone on the ice to the point where you should just allow it. Have you ever tried to kick a puck and caught your edge? If hurts like a mother and is a great way to tweak a knee, so i don't think it's going to be a hugely popular way of getting the puck in. If you just count all the 'kick in' goals in a season, across 1312 games, I bet there's 15 goals like that a season currently. You make it legal, it will rise to about 20-25.
It'll be harder to defend the guy beside the net as well, you can't just tie up his stick to make his useless anymore.


I think it's still a safety risk. If the puck is in a scramble in the crease and someone starts kicking at it, because his stick is tied up, it has the potential to really injure someone. Remember, you've got a sharp blade attached to the foot.

I think they should make the rule more clear, however, I don't think it should be stricken from the books - and I'm a big fan of more goals. I'm fine with killing video replay on offsides and goalie interference. I'm fine with calling the rule book and having more powerplays. But actually full-on kicking the puck? Nah.

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CrudeRemarks wrote on Thu, 14 October 2021 16:53

Adam wrote on Thu, 14 October 2021 16:26

Dragon_Matt wrote on Thu, 14 October 2021 14:30

the 'no kicking the goal in' rule was created in 1929-30. I'd say we have upgraded the safety of everyone on the ice to the point where you should just allow it. Have you ever tried to kick a puck and caught your edge? If hurts like a mother and is a great way to tweak a knee, so i don't think it's going to be a hugely popular way of getting the puck in. If you just count all the 'kick in' goals in a season, across 1312 games, I bet there's 15 goals like that a season currently. You make it legal, it will rise to about 20-25.
It'll be harder to defend the guy beside the net as well, you can't just tie up his stick to make his useless anymore.


I think it's still a safety risk. If the puck is in a scramble in the crease and someone starts kicking at it, because his stick is tied up, it has the potential to really injure someone. Remember, you've got a sharp blade attached to the foot.

I think they should make the rule more clear, however, I don't think it should be stricken from the books - and I'm a big fan of more goals. I'm fine with killing video replay on offsides and goalie interference. I'm fine with calling the rule book and having more powerplays. But actually full-on kicking the puck? Nah.

If only there was some sort of face protector they could wear


Ankles, wrists, hands, necks, family jewels. Just trying to imagine the fun stuff that could happen with guys kicking away at pucks in a scrum in front of the net.



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NetBOG wrote on Tue, 12 October 2021 21:40

Kraken getting taken behind the woodshed by Vegas. I don't care what the experts say, Kraken are going to be bad. Knights, Oilers, Nucks, Flames, and Kings are battling for 4 spots.


The Kings? Man, I would find it hard to be optimistic about that team...



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I might get dragged for this, but shoutout to Dylan Larkin for absolutely sucker punching Mathieu Joseph after Joseph boarded him in the numbers. Joseph is a dirty player and the comeuppance handed out was well-deserved.


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Skoobz wrote on Fri, 15 October 2021 10:18

I might get dragged for this, but shoutout to Dylan Larkin for absolutely sucker punching Mathieu Joseph after Joseph boarded him in the numbers. Joseph is a dirty player and the comeuppance handed out was well-deserved.


Hearing today for Larkin.

https://www.tsn.ca/detroit-red-wings-dylan-larkin-tampa-bay- lightning-mathieu-joseph-1.1706864

Pretty lame justification from Blashill.

"Red Wings head coach Jeff Blashill said he believes it should be taken into account that Larkin kept his glove on when punching Joseph.

“I mean, a punch with a glove on - I don’t know, maybe I’m old school - I don’t think I am,” Blashill said. “There’s a lot of punches without gloves on, I think it’s way different if a guy hits a guy with his gloves off than with his glove on.'"




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GabbyDugan wrote on Fri, 15 October 2021 09:53

Skoobz wrote on Fri, 15 October 2021 10:18

I might get dragged for this, but shoutout to Dylan Larkin for absolutely sucker punching Mathieu Joseph after Joseph boarded him in the numbers. Joseph is a dirty player and the comeuppance handed out was well-deserved.


Hearing today for Larkin.

https://www.tsn.ca/detroit-red-wings-dylan-larkin-tampa-bay- lightning-mathieu-joseph-1.1706864

Pretty lame justification from Blashill.

"Red Wings head coach Jeff Blashill said he believes it should be taken into account that Larkin kept his glove on when punching Joseph.

“I mean, a punch with a glove on - I don’t know, maybe I’m old school - I don’t think I am,” Blashill said. “There’s a lot of punches without gloves on, I think it’s way different if a guy hits a guy with his gloves off than with his glove on.'"



I saw it, I wouldn't call it a sucker punch, it was right after Joseph nailed Larkin head first into the boards, it was pure reaction by Larkin, he never even thought to drop his glove.

Amazing there was no boarding call on Joseph.. NHL refereeing getting up to standard early in the season.



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Skookum Jim wrote on Fri, 15 October 2021 13:27

GabbyDugan wrote on Fri, 15 October 2021 09:53

Skoobz wrote on Fri, 15 October 2021 10:18

I might get dragged for this, but shoutout to Dylan Larkin for absolutely sucker punching Mathieu Joseph after Joseph boarded him in the numbers. Joseph is a dirty player and the comeuppance handed out was well-deserved.


Hearing today for Larkin.

https://www.tsn.ca/detroit-red-wings-dylan-larkin-tampa-bay- lightning-mathieu-joseph-1.1706864

Pretty lame justification from Blashill.

"Red Wings head coach Jeff Blashill said he believes it should be taken into account that Larkin kept his glove on when punching Joseph.

“I mean, a punch with a glove on - I don’t know, maybe I’m old school - I don’t think I am,” Blashill said. “There’s a lot of punches without gloves on, I think it’s way different if a guy hits a guy with his gloves off than with his glove on.'"



I saw it, I wouldn't call it a sucker punch, it was right after Joseph nailed Larkin head first into the boards, it was pure reaction by Larkin, he never even thought to drop his glove.

Amazing there was no boarding call on Joseph.. NHL refereeing getting up to standard early in the season.



Larkin suspended one game.

https://www.tsn.ca/dylan-larkin-suspended-one-game-mathieu-j oseph-punch-1.1707000




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GabbyDugan wrote on Fri, 15 October 2021 10:53

Skoobz wrote on Fri, 15 October 2021 10:18

I might get dragged for this, but shoutout to Dylan Larkin for absolutely sucker punching Mathieu Joseph after Joseph boarded him in the numbers. Joseph is a dirty player and the comeuppance handed out was well-deserved.


Hearing today for Larkin.

https://www.tsn.ca/detroit-red-wings-dylan-larkin-tampa-bay- lightning-mathieu-joseph-1.1706864

Pretty lame justification from Blashill.

"Red Wings head coach Jeff Blashill said he believes it should be taken into account that Larkin kept his glove on when punching Joseph.

“I mean, a punch with a glove on - I don’t know, maybe I’m old school - I don’t think I am,” Blashill said. “There’s a lot of punches without gloves on, I think it’s way different if a guy hits a guy with his gloves off than with his glove on.'"



Maybe it would cut down on douchy hits on the numbers from behind if a guy would expect a punch in the face after. $500 fine for Larkin 🤣



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Buchnevich gets a two game suspension for a headbutt that was near identical to the one Andersson did on Yamamoto, yet Andersson gets away with just a 5k fine.
DoPS is such a joke.



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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Wed, 20 October 2021 08:44

Buchnevich gets a two game suspension for a headbutt that was near identical to the one Andersson did on Yamamoto, yet Andersson gets away with just a 5k fine.
DoPS is such a joke.


Didn't someone get like 4 games a few years ago as well? Ridiculous he didn't even get a game for that.



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Did you watch the video? I admit my initial reaction was DoPS suspicion ... but Buchnevich's head-butt was not in the same category of Andersson's. Much more direct and forceful helmet to chin. I was actually surprised Buchnevich only got 2 games, especially with his late-season (ridiculous and undeserved) suspension in the spring designating him a 'repeat offender'.

EDIT: Sorry - I should hasten to add that I thought Andersson deserved a couple of games for his head-butt of Yamamato. That kind of crap has no place in the game - and especially if they're going to suspend Larkin a game for a hand-in-glove punch, they really need to suspend a helmet-to-face of any kind. So yes, DoPS is still a joke ... but I think it's fair to say that Andersson and Buchnevich were NOT the same offense.

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AndersonRules wrote on Wed, 20 October 2021 06:35

Did you watch the video? I admit my initial reaction was DoPS suspicion ... but Buchnevich's head-butt was not in the same category of Andersson's. Much more direct and forceful helmet to chin. I was actually surprised Buchnevich only got 2 games, especially with his late-season (ridiculous and undeserved) suspension in the spring designating him a 'repeat offender'.

EDIT: Sorry - I should hasten to add that I thought Andersson deserved a couple of games for his head-butt of Yamamato. That kind of crap has no place in the game - and especially if they're going to suspend Larkin a game for a hand-in-glove punch, they really need to suspend a helmet-to-face of any kind. So yes, DoPS is still a joke ... but I think it's fair to say that Andersson and Buchnevich were NOT the same offense.


It really is rediculous. For all the talk of maintaining the hockey code, answering the bell, etc it seems a big part of the code is being forgotten.
Growing up playing as hid in the 80's and 90's there were a handful of things that my coach
(usually my dad but others as well) would sit a player on the bench for;
spitting, spearing, slewfoots, headbutting, etc.

How the heck a glove on punch that happens every game is a suspension and a headbutt, of ANY kind, is a fine is beyond me.

I have commented many times that the constant complaining about referees is silly but any criticism of the DOPS is 100% spot on.



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Oooh, Canes at Habs tonight. That's a spicy matchup.


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Wheeler and Scheiffle both have the cooties. NHL is gonna have to expand lineups for these kind of situations.


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Habs miss Price much? Mind you, it doesn't really matter when you can't score a goal yourself. Also, Bennett scored yet again.


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