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 Re: 2021 Game Thread (OOT) [message #778535 is a reply to message #778534 ]
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CrudeRemarks wrote on Fri, 05 March 2021 10:36

Oscargasm wrote on Fri, 05 March 2021 09:28

CrudeRemarks wrote on Fri, 05 March 2021 10:23

Kr55 wrote on Fri, 05 March 2021 09:19

Seabrook retires

https://www.nhl.com/blackhawks/news/news-seabrook-unable-to- continue-playing-after-15-seasons/c-322133900



https://www.capfriendly.com/players/brent-seabrook

tragic. i can't believe this happened to a once elite NHL player who signed a long term contract with the full intention of seeing it through.

A happy coincidence will be the cap relief chicago receives so I guess it isn't all bad news.

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/brent-seabrook




6.875 against the cap through 2023/24 since he retired due to injury. That’s a fair bit, especially magnified with the flat cap.

"After placing Seabrook, Zack Smith, and Andrew Shaw on LTIR Friday, the Blackhawks are now able to exceed their ceiling by $26M in cap hit, per Cap Friendly."

https://nhl.nbcsports.com/2021/03/05/brent-seabrook-ends-pla ying-career-after-15-seasons-with-blackhawks/


Brent Seabrook is on the 5th year of his 8 year, $55M ($6.875M AAV) contract

Since he's hanging up his skates due to injury (but not officially retiring), his cap hit will continue to count against the cap until the contract expires at the end of 2023-24


https://twitter.com/capfriendly/status/1367869333511299073?s =21

He just becomes a permanent fixture on the LTIR.

Another out for the Blackhawks after a dumb contract signing. He’s retiring. But bc it’s injury related he’s not officially retired, they just put him on LTIR every year till the contract expires and they recoup that cap.

Paging James Neal...



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 Re: 2021 Game Thread (OOT) [message #778537 is a reply to message #778535 ]
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Oscargasm wrote on Fri, 05 March 2021 09:44

CrudeRemarks wrote on Fri, 05 March 2021 10:36

Oscargasm wrote on Fri, 05 March 2021 09:28

CrudeRemarks wrote on Fri, 05 March 2021 10:23

Kr55 wrote on Fri, 05 March 2021 09:19

Seabrook retires

https://www.nhl.com/blackhawks/news/news-seabrook-unable-to- continue-playing-after-15-seasons/c-322133900



https://www.capfriendly.com/players/brent-seabrook

tragic. i can't believe this happened to a once elite NHL player who signed a long term contract with the full intention of seeing it through.

A happy coincidence will be the cap relief chicago receives so I guess it isn't all bad news.

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/brent-seabrook




6.875 against the cap through 2023/24 since he retired due to injury. That’s a fair bit, especially magnified with the flat cap.

"After placing Seabrook, Zack Smith, and Andrew Shaw on LTIR Friday, the Blackhawks are now able to exceed their ceiling by $26M in cap hit, per Cap Friendly."

https://nhl.nbcsports.com/2021/03/05/brent-seabrook-ends-pla ying-career-after-15-seasons-with-blackhawks/


Brent Seabrook is on the 5th year of his 8 year, $55M ($6.875M AAV) contract

Since he's hanging up his skates due to injury (but not officially retiring), his cap hit will continue to count against the cap until the contract expires at the end of 2023-24


https://twitter.com/capfriendly/status/1367869333511299073?s =21

He just becomes a permanent fixture on the LTIR.

Another out for the Blackhawks after a dumb contract signing. He’s retiring. But bc it’s injury related he’s not officially retired, they just put him on LTIR every year till the contract expires and they recoup that cap.

Paging James Neal...

I wonder if he follows in the steps of Pronger and Datsyuk and finishes his illustrious career in Arizona.



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 Re: 2021 Game Thread (OOT) [message #778539 is a reply to message #778537 ]
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CrudeRemarks wrote on Fri, 05 March 2021 10:47

Oscargasm wrote on Fri, 05 March 2021 09:44

CrudeRemarks wrote on Fri, 05 March 2021 10:36

Oscargasm wrote on Fri, 05 March 2021 09:28

CrudeRemarks wrote on Fri, 05 March 2021 10:23

Kr55 wrote on Fri, 05 March 2021 09:19

Seabrook retires

https://www.nhl.com/blackhawks/news/news-seabrook-unable-to- continue-playing-after-15-seasons/c-322133900



https://www.capfriendly.com/players/brent-seabrook

tragic. i can't believe this happened to a once elite NHL player who signed a long term contract with the full intention of seeing it through.

A happy coincidence will be the cap relief chicago receives so I guess it isn't all bad news.

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/brent-seabrook




6.875 against the cap through 2023/24 since he retired due to injury. That’s a fair bit, especially magnified with the flat cap.

"After placing Seabrook, Zack Smith, and Andrew Shaw on LTIR Friday, the Blackhawks are now able to exceed their ceiling by $26M in cap hit, per Cap Friendly."

https://nhl.nbcsports.com/2021/03/05/brent-seabrook-ends-pla ying-career-after-15-seasons-with-blackhawks/


Brent Seabrook is on the 5th year of his 8 year, $55M ($6.875M AAV) contract

Since he's hanging up his skates due to injury (but not officially retiring), his cap hit will continue to count against the cap until the contract expires at the end of 2023-24


https://twitter.com/capfriendly/status/1367869333511299073?s =21

He just becomes a permanent fixture on the LTIR.

Another out for the Blackhawks after a dumb contract signing. He’s retiring. But bc it’s injury related he’s not officially retired, they just put him on LTIR every year till the contract expires and they recoup that cap.

Paging James Neal...

I wonder if he follows in the steps of Pronger and Datsyuk and finishes his illustrious career in Arizona.


Heck maybe.

Sorry, I didn’t realize the injury clause and cap friendly deleted their tweet about him counting on the cap for the duration before correcting it.



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 Re: 2021 Game Thread (OOT) [message #778653 is a reply to message #771823 ]
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Yeesh, Leafs dropping both games to the Canucks. Guess they left it all on the ice v Edmonton last week.


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 Re: 2021 Game Thread (OOT) [message #778670 is a reply to message #778653 ]
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Oscargasm wrote on Sat, 06 March 2021 19:39

Yeesh, Leafs dropping both games to the Canucks. Guess they left it all on the ice v Edmonton last week.


I take it back. Demko is a #1 at the moment.



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The legends of Hall and Krueger are just getting obliterated this year

https://twitter.com/ByMHarrington/status/1368624085874470912 ?s=20

Wonder if Hall regrets looking for the payday in the paycut season instead of just the best opportunity to rack up points/wins.

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Sens up 2-0 on the flames after 1... aside from the obvious, a bright spot was Gudbranson laying mouth guard boy out (vid in link);

https://twitter.com/everydaysens/status/1368762517779058688? s=21



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 Re: 2021 Game Thread (OOT) [message #778775 is a reply to message #778774 ]
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Oscargasm wrote on Sun, 07 March 2021 20:26

Sens up 2-0 on the flames after 1... aside from the obvious, a bright spot was Gudbranson laying mouth guard boy out (vid in link);

https://twitter.com/everydaysens/status/1368762517779058688? s=21


https://i.imgur.com/QONVIyz.gif



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Kr55 wrote on Sun, 07 March 2021 21:32

Oscargasm wrote on Sun, 07 March 2021 20:26

Sens up 2-0 on the flames after 1... aside from the obvious, a bright spot was Gudbranson laying mouth guard boy out (vid in link);

https://twitter.com/everydaysens/status/1368762517779058688? s=21


https://i.imgur.com/QONVIyz.gif


Here’s a closer look at it Crash

https://twitter.com/hockeyhoundshow/status/13687639343296716 82?s=21



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Oscargasm wrote on Sun, 07 March 2021 20:38

Kr55 wrote on Sun, 07 March 2021 21:32

Oscargasm wrote on Sun, 07 March 2021 20:26

Sens up 2-0 on the flames after 1... aside from the obvious, a bright spot was Gudbranson laying mouth guard boy out (vid in link);

https://twitter.com/everydaysens/status/1368762517779058688? s=21




Here’s a closer look at it Crash

https://twitter.com/hockeyhoundshow/status/13687639343296716 82?s=21


Love it. Tkachuk is trying to throw hits like that all night, catching guys just turning around after playing a puck.



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Kr55 wrote on Sun, 07 March 2021 21:40

Oscargasm wrote on Sun, 07 March 2021 20:38

Kr55 wrote on Sun, 07 March 2021 21:32

Oscargasm wrote on Sun, 07 March 2021 20:26

Sens up 2-0 on the flames after 1... aside from the obvious, a bright spot was Gudbranson laying mouth guard boy out (vid in link);

https://twitter.com/everydaysens/status/1368762517779058688? s=21




Here’s a closer look at it Crash

https://twitter.com/hockeyhoundshow/status/13687639343296716 82?s=21


Love it. Tkachuk is trying to throw hits like that all night, catching guys just turning around after playing a puck.


I’d buy Gudbranson a beer

Sens up 3-1 now. Shots 10-8 in favour of Ottawa and B Tkachuk just rang one off the post, dang. Woulda been 4-1!



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 Re: 2021 Game Thread (OOT) [message #778780 is a reply to message #778778 ]
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Oscargasm wrote on Sun, 07 March 2021 20:50

Kr55 wrote on Sun, 07 March 2021 21:40

Oscargasm wrote on Sun, 07 March 2021 20:38

Kr55 wrote on Sun, 07 March 2021 21:32

Oscargasm wrote on Sun, 07 March 2021 20:26

Sens up 2-0 on the flames after 1... aside from the obvious, a bright spot was Gudbranson laying mouth guard boy out (vid in link);

https://twitter.com/everydaysens/status/1368762517779058688? s=21




Here’s a closer look at it Crash

https://twitter.com/hockeyhoundshow/status/13687639343296716 82?s=21


Love it. Tkachuk is trying to throw hits like that all night, catching guys just turning around after playing a puck.


I’d buy Gudbranson a beer

Sens up 3-1 now. Shots 10-8 in favour of Ottawa and B Tkachuk just rang one off the post, dang. Woulda been 4-1!


Reffing is a complete joke. Gio pulls down Batherson on a breakaway in OT but refs ignore it. Then Anderson trips Stutzle but the refs call a phantom diving penalty as well.



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NetBOG wrote on Sun, 07 March 2021 23:16

Oscargasm wrote on Sun, 07 March 2021 20:50

Kr55 wrote on Sun, 07 March 2021 21:40

Oscargasm wrote on Sun, 07 March 2021 20:38

Kr55 wrote on Sun, 07 March 2021 21:32

Oscargasm wrote on Sun, 07 March 2021 20:26

Sens up 2-0 on the flames after 1... aside from the obvious, a bright spot was Gudbranson laying mouth guard boy out (vid in link);

https://twitter.com/everydaysens/status/1368762517779058688? s=21




Here’s a closer look at it Crash

https://twitter.com/hockeyhoundshow/status/13687639343296716 82?s=21


Love it. Tkachuk is trying to throw hits like that all night, catching guys just turning around after playing a puck.


I’d buy Gudbranson a beer

Sens up 3-1 now. Shots 10-8 in favour of Ottawa and B Tkachuk just rang one off the post, dang. Woulda been 4-1!


Reffing is a complete joke. Gio pulls down Batherson on a breakaway in OT but refs ignore it. Then Anderson trips Stutzle but the refs call a phantom diving penalty as well.


The Sutter effect reaching the refs and he’s not even behind the bench yet. Buckle up. 🙄



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Oscargasm wrote on Sun, 07 March 2021 19:38

Kr55 wrote on Sun, 07 March 2021 21:32

Oscargasm wrote on Sun, 07 March 2021 20:26

Sens up 2-0 on the flames after 1... aside from the obvious, a bright spot was Gudbranson laying mouth guard boy out (vid in link);

https://twitter.com/everydaysens/status/1368762517779058688? s=21


https://i.imgur.com/QONVIyz.gif


Here’s a closer look at it Crash

https://twitter.com/hockeyhoundshow/status/13687639343296716 82?s=21


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Didnt notice last night, but tonight, Tkachuk doesn’t have an A on his jersey. Did... did they strip him of a letter??!?


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Oscargasm wrote on Sun, 07 March 2021 21:36

Didnt notice last night, but tonight, Tkachuk doesn’t have an A on his jersey. Did... did they strip him of a letter??!?


https://www.nhl.com/flames/news/backlund-tkachuk-named-alter nate-captains/c-300577986




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I have taken pleasure in watching Flames games because they lose a lot. I haven't read any articles yet about them, I am sure they will spin that game about how the push back in the 3rd, coming back from 2 goals down, how badly they outshot Ottawa, etc, etc.

They had 8 power plays, 3 in the 3rd period, Ottawa had 2. I think Markstrom stopped 4 or 5 breakaways at least. I remember 2 in OT.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 08:55

I have taken pleasure in watching Flames games because they lose a lot. I haven't read any articles yet about them, I am sure they will spin that game about how the push back in the 3rd, coming back from 2 goals down, how badly they outshot Ottawa, etc, etc.

They had 8 power plays, 3 in the 3rd period, Ottawa had 2. I think Markstrom stopped 4 or 5 breakaways at least. I remember 2 in OT.

Markstrom would have looked pretty good as an oiler.



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CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 10:01

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 08:55

I have taken pleasure in watching Flames games because they lose a lot. I haven't read any articles yet about them, I am sure they will spin that game about how the push back in the 3rd, coming back from 2 goals down, how badly they outshot Ottawa, etc, etc.

They had 8 power plays, 3 in the 3rd period, Ottawa had 2. I think Markstrom stopped 4 or 5 breakaways at least. I remember 2 in OT.

Markstrom would have looked pretty good as an oiler.

Don't worry, we can have our chance to overpay next summer for Binnington, Andersen, Grubauer, Mrazek, Raanta, Rittich, Ullmark, or Chris Driedger. All those guys are 32 or younger.



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OilPeg wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 10:16

CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 10:01

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 08:55

I have taken pleasure in watching Flames games because they lose a lot. I haven't read any articles yet about them, I am sure they will spin that game about how the push back in the 3rd, coming back from 2 goals down, how badly they outshot Ottawa, etc, etc.

They had 8 power plays, 3 in the 3rd period, Ottawa had 2. I think Markstrom stopped 4 or 5 breakaways at least. I remember 2 in OT.

Markstrom would have looked pretty good as an oiler.

Don't worry, we can have our chance to overpay next summer for Binnington, Andersen, Grubauer, Mrazek, Raanta, Rittich, Ullmark, or Chris Driedger. All those guys are 32 or younger.


No way, they’ll just bring back Schmiddy



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Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 09:46

OilPeg wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 10:16

CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 10:01

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 08:55

I have taken pleasure in watching Flames games because they lose a lot. I haven't read any articles yet about them, I am sure they will spin that game about how the push back in the 3rd, coming back from 2 goals down, how badly they outshot Ottawa, etc, etc.

They had 8 power plays, 3 in the 3rd period, Ottawa had 2. I think Markstrom stopped 4 or 5 breakaways at least. I remember 2 in OT.

Markstrom would have looked pretty good as an oiler.

Don't worry, we can have our chance to overpay next summer for Binnington, Andersen, Grubauer, Mrazek, Raanta, Rittich, Ullmark, or Chris Driedger. All those guys are 32 or younger.


No way, they’ll just bring back Schmiddy


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Adam wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 10:48

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 09:46

OilPeg wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 10:16

CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 10:01

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 08:55

I have taken pleasure in watching Flames games because they lose a lot. I haven't read any articles yet about them, I am sure they will spin that game about how the push back in the 3rd, coming back from 2 goals down, how badly they outshot Ottawa, etc, etc.

They had 8 power plays, 3 in the 3rd period, Ottawa had 2. I think Markstrom stopped 4 or 5 breakaways at least. I remember 2 in OT.

Markstrom would have looked pretty good as an oiler.

Don't worry, we can have our chance to overpay next summer for Binnington, Andersen, Grubauer, Mrazek, Raanta, Rittich, Ullmark, or Chris Driedger. All those guys are 32 or younger.


No way, they’ll just bring back Schmiddy


On a 3-year deal with a full NMC. You have to reward results - even if it's unsustainable and based on a short sample size!

Of all the UFA goalies for next year, Smith's numbers are some of the very best...



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OilPeg wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 10:04

Adam wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 10:48

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 09:46

OilPeg wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 10:16

CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 10:01

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 08:55

I have taken pleasure in watching Flames games because they lose a lot. I haven't read any articles yet about them, I am sure they will spin that game about how the push back in the 3rd, coming back from 2 goals down, how badly they outshot Ottawa, etc, etc.

They had 8 power plays, 3 in the 3rd period, Ottawa had 2. I think Markstrom stopped 4 or 5 breakaways at least. I remember 2 in OT.

Markstrom would have looked pretty good as an oiler.

Don't worry, we can have our chance to overpay next summer for Binnington, Andersen, Grubauer, Mrazek, Raanta, Rittich, Ullmark, or Chris Driedger. All those guys are 32 or younger.


No way, they’ll just bring back Schmiddy


On a 3-year deal with a full NMC. You have to reward results - even if it's unsustainable and based on a short sample size!

Of all the UFA goalies for next year, Smith's numbers are some of the very best...


I'd stay away from giving term though. Just up the cap hit by 2.5x and offer him 1 year instead of the 3 he deserves. If Tippett still likes him after next season, give him another 1 year deal and the year after that and so on.



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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 10:10

OilPeg wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 10:04

Adam wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 10:48

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 09:46

OilPeg wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 10:16

CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 10:01

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 08:55

I have taken pleasure in watching Flames games because they lose a lot. I haven't read any articles yet about them, I am sure they will spin that game about how the push back in the 3rd, coming back from 2 goals down, how badly they outshot Ottawa, etc, etc.

They had 8 power plays, 3 in the 3rd period, Ottawa had 2. I think Markstrom stopped 4 or 5 breakaways at least. I remember 2 in OT.

Markstrom would have looked pretty good as an oiler.

Don't worry, we can have our chance to overpay next summer for Binnington, Andersen, Grubauer, Mrazek, Raanta, Rittich, Ullmark, or Chris Driedger. All those guys are 32 or younger.


No way, they’ll just bring back Schmiddy


On a 3-year deal with a full NMC. You have to reward results - even if it's unsustainable and based on a short sample size!

Of all the UFA goalies for next year, Smith's numbers are some of the very best...


I'd stay away from giving term though. Just up the cap hit by 2.5x and offer him 1 year instead of the 3 he deserves. If Tippett still likes him after next season, give him another 1 year deal and the year after that and so on.


Maybe we split the difference and give him a two-year deal. We can use the MacTavish-Nikitin Model where you pay him the same as he wants, but over a shorter time span. He gets a premium salary, and the team doesn't have him on the books for that third year. Win-Win!



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Adam wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 12:23

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 10:10

OilPeg wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 10:04

Adam wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 10:48

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 09:46

OilPeg wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 10:16

CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 10:01

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 08:55

I have taken pleasure in watching Flames games because they lose a lot. I haven't read any articles yet about them, I am sure they will spin that game about how the push back in the 3rd, coming back from 2 goals down, how badly they outshot Ottawa, etc, etc.

They had 8 power plays, 3 in the 3rd period, Ottawa had 2. I think Markstrom stopped 4 or 5 breakaways at least. I remember 2 in OT.

Markstrom would have looked pretty good as an oiler.

Don't worry, we can have our chance to overpay next summer for Binnington, Andersen, Grubauer, Mrazek, Raanta, Rittich, Ullmark, or Chris Driedger. All those guys are 32 or younger.


No way, they’ll just bring back Schmiddy


On a 3-year deal with a full NMC. You have to reward results - even if it's unsustainable and based on a short sample size!

Of all the UFA goalies for next year, Smith's numbers are some of the very best...


I'd stay away from giving term though. Just up the cap hit by 2.5x and offer him 1 year instead of the 3 he deserves. If Tippett still likes him after next season, give him another 1 year deal and the year after that and so on.


Maybe we split the difference and give him a two-year deal. We can use the MacTavish-Nikitin Model where you pay him the same as he wants, but over a shorter time span. He gets a premium salary, and the team doesn't have him on the books for that third year. Win-Win!


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Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 11:36

Adam wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 12:23

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 10:10

OilPeg wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 10:04

Adam wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 10:48

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 09:46

OilPeg wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 10:16

CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 10:01

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 08:55

I have taken pleasure in watching Flames games because they lose a lot. I haven't read any articles yet about them, I am sure they will spin that game about how the push back in the 3rd, coming back from 2 goals down, how badly they outshot Ottawa, etc, etc.

They had 8 power plays, 3 in the 3rd period, Ottawa had 2. I think Markstrom stopped 4 or 5 breakaways at least. I remember 2 in OT.

Markstrom would have looked pretty good as an oiler.

Don't worry, we can have our chance to overpay next summer for Binnington, Andersen, Grubauer, Mrazek, Raanta, Rittich, Ullmark, or Chris Driedger. All those guys are 32 or younger.


No way, they’ll just bring back Schmiddy


On a 3-year deal with a full NMC. You have to reward results - even if it's unsustainable and based on a short sample size!

Of all the UFA goalies for next year, Smith's numbers are some of the very best...


I'd stay away from giving term though. Just up the cap hit by 2.5x and offer him 1 year instead of the 3 he deserves. If Tippett still likes him after next season, give him another 1 year deal and the year after that and so on.


Maybe we split the difference and give him a two-year deal. We can use the MacTavish-Nikitin Model where you pay him the same as he wants, but over a shorter time span. He gets a premium salary, and the team doesn't have him on the books for that third year. Win-Win!


Glad to see you coming around to supporting all that is Mike Schmidd, the Oilers #1


It's great an all to come up with these options to try to entice Smith to stay, but I guess we're forgetting he has to want to stay too. Could be a bidding war this off-season for him. And possibly if we don't win it all this year, maybe we're just not worth his time.



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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 11:39

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 11:36

Adam wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 12:23

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 10:10

OilPeg wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 10:04

Adam wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 10:48

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 09:46

OilPeg wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 10:16

CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 10:01

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 08:55

I have taken pleasure in watching Flames games because they lose a lot. I haven't read any articles yet about them, I am sure they will spin that game about how the push back in the 3rd, coming back from 2 goals down, how badly they outshot Ottawa, etc, etc.

They had 8 power plays, 3 in the 3rd period, Ottawa had 2. I think Markstrom stopped 4 or 5 breakaways at least. I remember 2 in OT.

Markstrom would have looked pretty good as an oiler.

Don't worry, we can have our chance to overpay next summer for Binnington, Andersen, Grubauer, Mrazek, Raanta, Rittich, Ullmark, or Chris Driedger. All those guys are 32 or younger.


No way, they’ll just bring back Schmiddy


On a 3-year deal with a full NMC. You have to reward results - even if it's unsustainable and based on a short sample size!

Of all the UFA goalies for next year, Smith's numbers are some of the very best...


I'd stay away from giving term though. Just up the cap hit by 2.5x and offer him 1 year instead of the 3 he deserves. If Tippett still likes him after next season, give him another 1 year deal and the year after that and so on.


Maybe we split the difference and give him a two-year deal. We can use the MacTavish-Nikitin Model where you pay him the same as he wants, but over a shorter time span. He gets a premium salary, and the team doesn't have him on the books for that third year. Win-Win!


Glad to see you coming around to supporting all that is Mike Schmidd, the Oilers #1


It's great an all to come up with these options to try to entice Smith to stay, but I guess we're forgetting he has to want to stay too. Could be a bidding war this off-season for him. And possibly if we don't win it all this year, maybe we're just not worth his time.


All jokes aside, it it still pretty incredible that MacTavish traded a pick so that he could get early negotiation rights for Nikita Nikitin, then because the agent said it needed to be a 3 year deal for at or over $3MM per season, MacT countered back by giving him the same $9 Million over two years and immediately after that said that we needed to give a "show me" contract to Petry that would walk him to UFA because "you can only have so many $4MM price point defenceman on the team."

The saving grace is that the 5th round pick we traded for Nikitin never became anything and the 4th round pick we got back for Petry became Caleb Jones - so it's almost a wash, right?



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All jokes aside, it it still pretty incredible that MacTavish traded a pick so that he could get early negotiation rights for Nikita Nikitin, then because the agent said it needed to be a 3 year deal for at or over $3MM per season, MacT countered back by giving him the same $9 Million over two years and immediately after that said that we needed to give a "show me" contract to Petry that would walk him to UFA because "you can only have so many $4MM price point defenceman on the team."

The saving grace is that the 5th round pick we traded for Nikitin never became anything and the 4th round pick we got back for Petry became Caleb Jones - so it's almost a wash, right?

The oral history of the Oilers being awful for 20+ years is going to be the funniest sports book in history. Imagine being a star player look at an organization doing stuff like that.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 12:14

Adam wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 11:45


All jokes aside, it it still pretty incredible that MacTavish traded a pick so that he could get early negotiation rights for Nikita Nikitin, then because the agent said it needed to be a 3 year deal for at or over $3MM per season, MacT countered back by giving him the same $9 Million over two years and immediately after that said that we needed to give a "show me" contract to Petry that would walk him to UFA because "you can only have so many $4MM price point defenceman on the team."

The saving grace is that the 5th round pick we traded for Nikitin never became anything and the 4th round pick we got back for Petry became Caleb Jones - so it's almost a wash, right?

The oral history of the Oilers being awful for 20+ years is going to be the funniest sports book in history. Imagine being a star player look at an organization doing stuff like that.


It was all worth it to hear MacT using every little term he could remember from his weekend EMBA classes. Dem price points baby, gotta be picky about who you give dem price points to!

Man did he ever come in riding high and confident, along with his boy Lowe.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 12:14

Adam wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 11:45


All jokes aside, it it still pretty incredible that MacTavish traded a pick so that he could get early negotiation rights for Nikita Nikitin, then because the agent said it needed to be a 3 year deal for at or over $3MM per season, MacT countered back by giving him the same $9 Million over two years and immediately after that said that we needed to give a "show me" contract to Petry that would walk him to UFA because "you can only have so many $4MM price point defenceman on the team."

The saving grace is that the 5th round pick we traded for Nikitin never became anything and the 4th round pick we got back for Petry became Caleb Jones - so it's almost a wash, right?

The oral history of the Oilers being awful for 20+ years is going to be the funniest sports book in history. Imagine being a star player look at an organization doing stuff like that.


Speaking of which, the league is still trying to make rules to stop Oilers-y things from happening:

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The NHL is proposing changes to the draft lottery that would see:

* teams limited to no more than two lottery wins in a five-year period
* teams only allowed to jump 10 spots with a lottery win
* a reduction in the number of picks decided by lottery from three to two



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Adam wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 13:50

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 12:14

Adam wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 11:45


All jokes aside, it it still pretty incredible that MacTavish traded a pick so that he could get early negotiation rights for Nikita Nikitin, then because the agent said it needed to be a 3 year deal for at or over $3MM per season, MacT countered back by giving him the same $9 Million over two years and immediately after that said that we needed to give a "show me" contract to Petry that would walk him to UFA because "you can only have so many $4MM price point defenceman on the team."

The saving grace is that the 5th round pick we traded for Nikitin never became anything and the 4th round pick we got back for Petry became Caleb Jones - so it's almost a wash, right?

The oral history of the Oilers being awful for 20+ years is going to be the funniest sports book in history. Imagine being a star player look at an organization doing stuff like that.


Speaking of which, the league is still trying to make rules to stop Oilers-y things from happening:

Quote:

Chris Johnston
@reporterchris
The NHL is proposing changes to the draft lottery that would see:

* teams limited to no more than two lottery wins in a five-year period
* teams only allowed to jump 10 spots with a lottery win
* a reduction in the number of picks decided by lottery from three to two



Trying to help Detroit get their rebuild started too. Last lottery did not go according to plan.



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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 12:53

Adam wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 13:50

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 12:14

Adam wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 11:45


All jokes aside, it it still pretty incredible that MacTavish traded a pick so that he could get early negotiation rights for Nikita Nikitin, then because the agent said it needed to be a 3 year deal for at or over $3MM per season, MacT countered back by giving him the same $9 Million over two years and immediately after that said that we needed to give a "show me" contract to Petry that would walk him to UFA because "you can only have so many $4MM price point defenceman on the team."

The saving grace is that the 5th round pick we traded for Nikitin never became anything and the 4th round pick we got back for Petry became Caleb Jones - so it's almost a wash, right?

The oral history of the Oilers being awful for 20+ years is going to be the funniest sports book in history. Imagine being a star player look at an organization doing stuff like that.


Speaking of which, the league is still trying to make rules to stop Oilers-y things from happening:

Quote:

Chris Johnston
@reporterchris
The NHL is proposing changes to the draft lottery that would see:

* teams limited to no more than two lottery wins in a five-year period
* teams only allowed to jump 10 spots with a lottery win
* a reduction in the number of picks decided by lottery from three to two



Trying to help Detroit get their rebuild started too. Last lottery did not go according to plan.


I wouldn't have said this 5 years ago, but I would be on board with the league just getting rid of the draft altogether at this point. It's clearly not serving it's intended purpose. With a hard cap in place, there's no risk of the rich teams grossly outspending the poor teams.

As it stands the draft lottery is interesting for like 3-5 teams. I find the start of free agency to be a much more interesting day.



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I wouldn't have said this 5 years ago, but I would be on board with the league just getting rid of the draft altogether at this point. It's clearly not serving it's intended purpose. With a hard cap in place, there's no risk of the rich teams grossly outspending the poor teams.

As it stands the draft lottery is interesting for like 3-5 teams. I find the start of free agency to be a much more interesting day.

I don't have an argument against this. Hell, you could do a reverse draft day TV where the top ~50 players pick their teams. I'd watch that



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Goose wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 13:58



I wouldn't have said this 5 years ago, but I would be on board with the league just getting rid of the draft altogether at this point. It's clearly not serving it's intended purpose. With a hard cap in place, there's no risk of the rich teams grossly outspending the poor teams.

As it stands the draft lottery is interesting for like 3-5 teams. I find the start of free agency to be a much more interesting day.

I don't have an argument against this. Hell, you could do a reverse draft day TV where the top ~50 players pick their teams. I'd watch that



You'd have to get rid of the rookie salary cap to make it work - otherwise the rich would just get richer every year.



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Goose wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 13:58

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 12:53

Adam wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 13:50

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 12:14

Adam wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 11:45


All jokes aside, it it still pretty incredible that MacTavish traded a pick so that he could get early negotiation rights for Nikita Nikitin, then because the agent said it needed to be a 3 year deal for at or over $3MM per season, MacT countered back by giving him the same $9 Million over two years and immediately after that said that we needed to give a "show me" contract to Petry that would walk him to UFA because "you can only have so many $4MM price point defenceman on the team."

The saving grace is that the 5th round pick we traded for Nikitin never became anything and the 4th round pick we got back for Petry became Caleb Jones - so it's almost a wash, right?

The oral history of the Oilers being awful for 20+ years is going to be the funniest sports book in history. Imagine being a star player look at an organization doing stuff like that.


Speaking of which, the league is still trying to make rules to stop Oilers-y things from happening:

Quote:

Chris Johnston
@reporterchris
The NHL is proposing changes to the draft lottery that would see:

* teams limited to no more than two lottery wins in a five-year period
* teams only allowed to jump 10 spots with a lottery win
* a reduction in the number of picks decided by lottery from three to two



Trying to help Detroit get their rebuild started too. Last lottery did not go according to plan.


I wouldn't have said this 5 years ago, but I would be on board with the league just getting rid of the draft altogether at this point. It's clearly not serving it's intended purpose. With a hard cap in place, there's no risk of the rich teams grossly outspending the poor teams.

As it stands the draft lottery is interesting for like 3-5 teams. I find the start of free agency to be a much more interesting day.


They are really trying hard to perfect it adding all kinds of new rules and pulling back other things, and yeah in the end it probably barely makes any real difference compared to just having no lottery.

I guess this round is about trying to help a terrible team get a high pick a little faster, but adding some more disincentives to tanking too long by disqualifying teams for the lottery. But, not that much, it would still be sweet to get a top 3 pick, even if you can't win the lottery. But for sure the current system could be pretty harsh for a team that sucked hard for 1 year like Detroit going from 1st to 4th.




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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 14:14

Goose wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 13:58

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 12:53

Adam wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 13:50

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 12:14

Adam wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 11:45


All jokes aside, it it still pretty incredible that MacTavish traded a pick so that he could get early negotiation rights for Nikita Nikitin, then because the agent said it needed to be a 3 year deal for at or over $3MM per season, MacT countered back by giving him the same $9 Million over two years and immediately after that said that we needed to give a "show me" contract to Petry that would walk him to UFA because "you can only have so many $4MM price point defenceman on the team."

The saving grace is that the 5th round pick we traded for Nikitin never became anything and the 4th round pick we got back for Petry became Caleb Jones - so it's almost a wash, right?

The oral history of the Oilers being awful for 20+ years is going to be the funniest sports book in history. Imagine being a star player look at an organization doing stuff like that.


Speaking of which, the league is still trying to make rules to stop Oilers-y things from happening:

Quote:

Chris Johnston
@reporterchris
The NHL is proposing changes to the draft lottery that would see:

* teams limited to no more than two lottery wins in a five-year period
* teams only allowed to jump 10 spots with a lottery win
* a reduction in the number of picks decided by lottery from three to two



Trying to help Detroit get their rebuild started too. Last lottery did not go according to plan.


I wouldn't have said this 5 years ago, but I would be on board with the league just getting rid of the draft altogether at this point. It's clearly not serving it's intended purpose. With a hard cap in place, there's no risk of the rich teams grossly outspending the poor teams.

As it stands the draft lottery is interesting for like 3-5 teams. I find the start of free agency to be a much more interesting day.


They are really trying hard to perfect it adding all kinds of new rules and pulling back other things, and yeah in the end it probably barely makes any real difference compared to just having no lottery.

I guess this round is about trying to help a terrible team get a high pick a little faster, but adding some more disincentives to tanking too long by disqualifying teams for the lottery. But, not that much, it would still be sweet to get a top 3 pick, even if you can't win the lottery. But for sure the current system could be pretty harsh for a team that sucked hard for 1 year like Detroit going from 1st to 4th.



What about the worst team in the league gets to do an expansion draft. They lose all their players, who become UFA's, and everybody else gives up one player beyond their protected list.



You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you can get a lottery pick.


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 Re: 2021 Game Thread (OOT) [message #778842 is a reply to message #778841 ]
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CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 14:24

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 14:14

Goose wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 13:58

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 12:53

Adam wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 13:50

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 12:14

Adam wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 11:45


All jokes aside, it it still pretty incredible that MacTavish traded a pick so that he could get early negotiation rights for Nikita Nikitin, then because the agent said it needed to be a 3 year deal for at or over $3MM per season, MacT countered back by giving him the same $9 Million over two years and immediately after that said that we needed to give a "show me" contract to Petry that would walk him to UFA because "you can only have so many $4MM price point defenceman on the team."

The saving grace is that the 5th round pick we traded for Nikitin never became anything and the 4th round pick we got back for Petry became Caleb Jones - so it's almost a wash, right?

The oral history of the Oilers being awful for 20+ years is going to be the funniest sports book in history. Imagine being a star player look at an organization doing stuff like that.


Speaking of which, the league is still trying to make rules to stop Oilers-y things from happening:

Quote:

Chris Johnston
@reporterchris
The NHL is proposing changes to the draft lottery that would see:

* teams limited to no more than two lottery wins in a five-year period
* teams only allowed to jump 10 spots with a lottery win
* a reduction in the number of picks decided by lottery from three to two



Trying to help Detroit get their rebuild started too. Last lottery did not go according to plan.


I wouldn't have said this 5 years ago, but I would be on board with the league just getting rid of the draft altogether at this point. It's clearly not serving it's intended purpose. With a hard cap in place, there's no risk of the rich teams grossly outspending the poor teams.

As it stands the draft lottery is interesting for like 3-5 teams. I find the start of free agency to be a much more interesting day.


They are really trying hard to perfect it adding all kinds of new rules and pulling back other things, and yeah in the end it probably barely makes any real difference compared to just having no lottery.

I guess this round is about trying to help a terrible team get a high pick a little faster, but adding some more disincentives to tanking too long by disqualifying teams for the lottery. But, not that much, it would still be sweet to get a top 3 pick, even if you can't win the lottery. But for sure the current system could be pretty harsh for a team that sucked hard for 1 year like Detroit going from 1st to 4th.



What about the worst team in the league gets to do an expansion draft. They lose all their players, who become UFA's, and everybody else gives up one player beyond their protected list.

The could call it the great reset



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CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 14:24

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 14:14

Goose wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 13:58

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 12:53

Adam wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 13:50

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 12:14

Adam wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 11:45


All jokes aside, it it still pretty incredible that MacTavish traded a pick so that he could get early negotiation rights for Nikita Nikitin, then because the agent said it needed to be a 3 year deal for at or over $3MM per season, MacT countered back by giving him the same $9 Million over two years and immediately after that said that we needed to give a "show me" contract to Petry that would walk him to UFA because "you can only have so many $4MM price point defenceman on the team."

The saving grace is that the 5th round pick we traded for Nikitin never became anything and the 4th round pick we got back for Petry became Caleb Jones - so it's almost a wash, right?

The oral history of the Oilers being awful for 20+ years is going to be the funniest sports book in history. Imagine being a star player look at an organization doing stuff like that.


Speaking of which, the league is still trying to make rules to stop Oilers-y things from happening:

Quote:

Chris Johnston
@reporterchris
The NHL is proposing changes to the draft lottery that would see:

* teams limited to no more than two lottery wins in a five-year period
* teams only allowed to jump 10 spots with a lottery win
* a reduction in the number of picks decided by lottery from three to two



Trying to help Detroit get their rebuild started too. Last lottery did not go according to plan.


I wouldn't have said this 5 years ago, but I would be on board with the league just getting rid of the draft altogether at this point. It's clearly not serving it's intended purpose. With a hard cap in place, there's no risk of the rich teams grossly outspending the poor teams.

As it stands the draft lottery is interesting for like 3-5 teams. I find the start of free agency to be a much more interesting day.


They are really trying hard to perfect it adding all kinds of new rules and pulling back other things, and yeah in the end it probably barely makes any real difference compared to just having no lottery.

I guess this round is about trying to help a terrible team get a high pick a little faster, but adding some more disincentives to tanking too long by disqualifying teams for the lottery. But, not that much, it would still be sweet to get a top 3 pick, even if you can't win the lottery. But for sure the current system could be pretty harsh for a team that sucked hard for 1 year like Detroit going from 1st to 4th.



What about the worst team in the league gets to do an expansion draft. They lose all their players, who become UFA's, and everybody else gives up one player beyond their protected list.


Imagine the tank battles that would occur to get to do that. Would be fun.

GM is decimating the lineups trying to lose. Players all wanting to lose to become UFA's (although I guess some might be motivated to maintain a long term deal, but oh well, just scratch those guys). Lots of records would be set.

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 Re: 2021 Game Thread (OOT) [message #778846 is a reply to message #778843 ]
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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 14:38

CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 14:24

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 14:14

Goose wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 13:58

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 12:53

Adam wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 13:50

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 12:14

Adam wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 11:45


All jokes aside, it it still pretty incredible that MacTavish traded a pick so that he could get early negotiation rights for Nikita Nikitin, then because the agent said it needed to be a 3 year deal for at or over $3MM per season, MacT countered back by giving him the same $9 Million over two years and immediately after that said that we needed to give a "show me" contract to Petry that would walk him to UFA because "you can only have so many $4MM price point defenceman on the team."

The saving grace is that the 5th round pick we traded for Nikitin never became anything and the 4th round pick we got back for Petry became Caleb Jones - so it's almost a wash, right?

The oral history of the Oilers being awful for 20+ years is going to be the funniest sports book in history. Imagine being a star player look at an organization doing stuff like that.


Speaking of which, the league is still trying to make rules to stop Oilers-y things from happening:

Quote:

Chris Johnston
@reporterchris
The NHL is proposing changes to the draft lottery that would see:

* teams limited to no more than two lottery wins in a five-year period
* teams only allowed to jump 10 spots with a lottery win
* a reduction in the number of picks decided by lottery from three to two



Trying to help Detroit get their rebuild started too. Last lottery did not go according to plan.


I wouldn't have said this 5 years ago, but I would be on board with the league just getting rid of the draft altogether at this point. It's clearly not serving it's intended purpose. With a hard cap in place, there's no risk of the rich teams grossly outspending the poor teams.

As it stands the draft lottery is interesting for like 3-5 teams. I find the start of free agency to be a much more interesting day.


They are really trying hard to perfect it adding all kinds of new rules and pulling back other things, and yeah in the end it probably barely makes any real difference compared to just having no lottery.

I guess this round is about trying to help a terrible team get a high pick a little faster, but adding some more disincentives to tanking too long by disqualifying teams for the lottery. But, not that much, it would still be sweet to get a top 3 pick, even if you can't win the lottery. But for sure the current system could be pretty harsh for a team that sucked hard for 1 year like Detroit going from 1st to 4th.



What about the worst team in the league gets to do an expansion draft. They lose all their players, who become UFA's, and everybody else gives up one player beyond their protected list.


Imagine the tank battles that would occur to get to do that. Would be fun.

GM is decimating the lineups trying to lose. Players all wanting to lose to become UFA's (although I guess some might be motivated to maintain a long term deal, but oh well, just scratch those guys). Lots of records would be set.

Or what if it was the second worst team? Then the bottom guy is trying to get better while the third worst is tanking his hardest.



You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you can get a lottery pick.


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 Re: 2021 Game Thread (OOT) [message #778847 is a reply to message #778846 ]
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CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 15:04

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 14:38

CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 14:24

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 14:14

Goose wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 13:58

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 12:53

Adam wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 13:50

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 12:14

Adam wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 11:45


All jokes aside, it it still pretty incredible that MacTavish traded a pick so that he could get early negotiation rights for Nikita Nikitin, then because the agent said it needed to be a 3 year deal for at or over $3MM per season, MacT countered back by giving him the same $9 Million over two years and immediately after that said that we needed to give a "show me" contract to Petry that would walk him to UFA because "you can only have so many $4MM price point defenceman on the team."

The saving grace is that the 5th round pick we traded for Nikitin never became anything and the 4th round pick we got back for Petry became Caleb Jones - so it's almost a wash, right?

The oral history of the Oilers being awful for 20+ years is going to be the funniest sports book in history. Imagine being a star player look at an organization doing stuff like that.


Speaking of which, the league is still trying to make rules to stop Oilers-y things from happening:

Quote:

Chris Johnston
@reporterchris
The NHL is proposing changes to the draft lottery that would see:

* teams limited to no more than two lottery wins in a five-year period
* teams only allowed to jump 10 spots with a lottery win
* a reduction in the number of picks decided by lottery from three to two



Trying to help Detroit get their rebuild started too. Last lottery did not go according to plan.


I wouldn't have said this 5 years ago, but I would be on board with the league just getting rid of the draft altogether at this point. It's clearly not serving it's intended purpose. With a hard cap in place, there's no risk of the rich teams grossly outspending the poor teams.

As it stands the draft lottery is interesting for like 3-5 teams. I find the start of free agency to be a much more interesting day.


They are really trying hard to perfect it adding all kinds of new rules and pulling back other things, and yeah in the end it probably barely makes any real difference compared to just having no lottery.

I guess this round is about trying to help a terrible team get a high pick a little faster, but adding some more disincentives to tanking too long by disqualifying teams for the lottery. But, not that much, it would still be sweet to get a top 3 pick, even if you can't win the lottery. But for sure the current system could be pretty harsh for a team that sucked hard for 1 year like Detroit going from 1st to 4th.



What about the worst team in the league gets to do an expansion draft. They lose all their players, who become UFA's, and everybody else gives up one player beyond their protected list.


Imagine the tank battles that would occur to get to do that. Would be fun.

GM is decimating the lineups trying to lose. Players all wanting to lose to become UFA's (although I guess some might be motivated to maintain a long term deal, but oh well, just scratch those guys). Lots of records would be set.

Or what if it was the second worst team? Then the bottom guy is trying to get better while the third worst is tanking his hardest.


Hmmm, I think we may need to do a lottery to decide who gets to do the expansion draft then.

Or maybe multiple teams can do it, and we have a lottery with 3 winners to decide an expansion draft order? But, definitely would need some extra rules, like you can't take part in an expansion draft more than 2 times every 5 years.



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- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 15:12

CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 15:04

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 14:38

CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 14:24

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 14:14

Goose wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 13:58

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 12:53

Adam wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 13:50

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 12:14

Adam wrote on Mon, 08 March 2021 11:45


All jokes aside, it it still pretty incredible that MacTavish traded a pick so that he could get early negotiation rights for Nikita Nikitin, then because the agent said it needed to be a 3 year deal for at or over $3MM per season, MacT countered back by giving him the same $9 Million over two years and immediately after that said that we needed to give a "show me" contract to Petry that would walk him to UFA because "you can only have so many $4MM price point defenceman on the team."

The saving grace is that the 5th round pick we traded for Nikitin never became anything and the 4th round pick we got back for Petry became Caleb Jones - so it's almost a wash, right?

The oral history of the Oilers being awful for 20+ years is going to be the funniest sports book in history. Imagine being a star player look at an organization doing stuff like that.


Speaking of which, the league is still trying to make rules to stop Oilers-y things from happening:

Quote:

Chris Johnston
@reporterchris
The NHL is proposing changes to the draft lottery that would see:

* teams limited to no more than two lottery wins in a five-year period
* teams only allowed to jump 10 spots with a lottery win
* a reduction in the number of picks decided by lottery from three to two



Trying to help Detroit get their rebuild started too. Last lottery did not go according to plan.


I wouldn't have said this 5 years ago, but I would be on board with the league just getting rid of the draft altogether at this point. It's clearly not serving it's intended purpose. With a hard cap in place, there's no risk of the rich teams grossly outspending the poor teams.

As it stands the draft lottery is interesting for like 3-5 teams. I find the start of free agency to be a much more interesting day.


They are really trying hard to perfect it adding all kinds of new rules and pulling back other things, and yeah in the end it probably barely makes any real difference compared to just having no lottery.

I guess this round is about trying to help a terrible team get a high pick a little faster, but adding some more disincentives to tanking too long by disqualifying teams for the lottery. But, not that much, it would still be sweet to get a top 3 pick, even if you can't win the lottery. But for sure the current system could be pretty harsh for a team that sucked hard for 1 year like Detroit going from 1st to 4th.



What about the worst team in the league gets to do an expansion draft. They lose all their players, who become UFA's, and everybody else gives up one player beyond their protected list.


Imagine the tank battles that would occur to get to do that. Would be fun.

GM is decimating the lineups trying to lose. Players all wanting to lose to become UFA's (although I guess some might be motivated to maintain a long term deal, but oh well, just scratch those guys). Lots of records would be set.

Or what if it was the second worst team? Then the bottom guy is trying to get better while the third worst is tanking his hardest.


Hmmm, I think we may need to do a lottery to decide who gets to do the expansion draft then.

Or maybe multiple teams can do it, and we have a lottery with 3 winners to decide an expansion draft order? But, definitely would need some extra rules, like you can't take part in an expansion draft more than 2 times every 5 years.

Compromise: If you win the actual draft lottery more than twice in five years you get the expansion draft.



You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you can get a lottery pick.


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