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The WHL announces start up planned date for 2020-21.

https://whl.ca/article/western-hockey-league-announces-openi ng-date-for-2020-21-regular-season.

"The Western Hockey League Board of Governors announced today the WHL Regular Season is scheduled to open on Friday, January 8, 2021.

The WHL continues to work with each of the Governments and Health Authorities in the Provinces and States in Western Canada and the U.S. Pacific Northwest, respectively, on obtaining the necessary approvals to commence play. Details regarding the schedule of games in each of the four WHL Divisions will be announced at a later date.

The WHL has agreed that all Regular Season games during the 2020-21 season will be played exclusively within the boundaries of each of the four Divisions, with the East Division consisting of the seven Saskatchewan and Manitoba-based teams; the Central Division consisting of the five Alberta-based teams; the B.C. Division consisting of the five B.C.-based teams; and the U.S. Division consisting of the five teams located in Washington and Oregon."







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GabbyDugan wrote on Thu, 15 October 2020 09:02

The WHL announces start up planned date for 2020-21.

https://whl.ca/article/western-hockey-league-announces-openi ng-date-for-2020-21-regular-season.

"The Western Hockey League Board of Governors announced today the WHL Regular Season is scheduled to open on Friday, January 8, 2021.

The WHL continues to work with each of the Governments and Health Authorities in the Provinces and States in Western Canada and the U.S. Pacific Northwest, respectively, on obtaining the necessary approvals to commence play. Details regarding the schedule of games in each of the four WHL Divisions will be announced at a later date.

The WHL has agreed that all Regular Season games during the 2020-21 season will be played exclusively within the boundaries of each of the four Divisions, with the East Division consisting of the seven Saskatchewan and Manitoba-based teams; the Central Division consisting of the five Alberta-based teams; the B.C. Division consisting of the five B.C.-based teams; and the U.S. Division consisting of the five teams located in Washington and Oregon."






Raiders vs Blades games are going to be fantastic. They hated each other last year and they only played eight times over the complete schedule.

Interested to find out how they’ll handle fans. I’m a season ticket holder of the Raiders and they have roughly 70% of the seats sold to other season ticket holders.

Who gets to go? No box office tickets? As of right now they aren’t saying anything and my playoff tickets from last year haven’t been fully refunded.

Interesting times.



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inverno76 wrote on Thu, 15 October 2020 18:32

GabbyDugan wrote on Thu, 15 October 2020 09:02

The WHL announces start up planned date for 2020-21.

https://whl.ca/article/western-hockey-league-announces-openi ng-date-for-2020-21-regular-season.

"The Western Hockey League Board of Governors announced today the WHL Regular Season is scheduled to open on Friday, January 8, 2021.

The WHL continues to work with each of the Governments and Health Authorities in the Provinces and States in Western Canada and the U.S. Pacific Northwest, respectively, on obtaining the necessary approvals to commence play. Details regarding the schedule of games in each of the four WHL Divisions will be announced at a later date.

The WHL has agreed that all Regular Season games during the 2020-21 season will be played exclusively within the boundaries of each of the four Divisions, with the East Division consisting of the seven Saskatchewan and Manitoba-based teams; the Central Division consisting of the five Alberta-based teams; the B.C. Division consisting of the five B.C.-based teams; and the U.S. Division consisting of the five teams located in Washington and Oregon."






Raiders vs Blades games are going to be fantastic. They hated each other last year and they only played eight times over the complete schedule.

Interested to find out how they’ll handle fans. I’m a season ticket holder of the Raiders and they have roughly 70% of the seats sold to other season ticket holders.

Who gets to go? No box office tickets? As of right now they aren’t saying anything and my playoff tickets from last year haven’t been fully refunded.

Interesting times.



Not sure how a lot of these leagues no matter the sport....those without the huge broadcast contracts anyway....sustain the business model without paying fans in the seats, low to zero ticket and concession revenues.



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 Re: WHL (2020)-2021 schedule plans announced [message #768598 is a reply to message #768597 ]
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K.McC#24 wrote on Mon, 19 October 2020 09:11

inverno76 wrote on Thu, 15 October 2020 18:32

GabbyDugan wrote on Thu, 15 October 2020 09:02

The WHL announces start up planned date for 2020-21.

https://whl.ca/article/western-hockey-league-announces-openi ng-date-for-2020-21-regular-season.

"The Western Hockey League Board of Governors announced today the WHL Regular Season is scheduled to open on Friday, January 8, 2021.

The WHL continues to work with each of the Governments and Health Authorities in the Provinces and States in Western Canada and the U.S. Pacific Northwest, respectively, on obtaining the necessary approvals to commence play. Details regarding the schedule of games in each of the four WHL Divisions will be announced at a later date.

The WHL has agreed that all Regular Season games during the 2020-21 season will be played exclusively within the boundaries of each of the four Divisions, with the East Division consisting of the seven Saskatchewan and Manitoba-based teams; the Central Division consisting of the five Alberta-based teams; the B.C. Division consisting of the five B.C.-based teams; and the U.S. Division consisting of the five teams located in Washington and Oregon."






Raiders vs Blades games are going to be fantastic. They hated each other last year and they only played eight times over the complete schedule.

Interested to find out how they’ll handle fans. I’m a season ticket holder of the Raiders and they have roughly 70% of the seats sold to other season ticket holders.

Who gets to go? No box office tickets? As of right now they aren’t saying anything and my playoff tickets from last year haven’t been fully refunded.

Interesting times.



Not sure how a lot of these leagues no matter the sport....those without the huge broadcast contracts anyway....sustain the business model without paying fans in the seats, low to zero ticket and concession revenues.



At least the player cost for WHL is almost nothing too.

Maybe they need to move to small arenas for these games if there's no fans? The cost of those big facilities is probably the largest expense...although who knows, maybe they are tied in by those leases no matter what...



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Adam wrote on Mon, 19 October 2020 11:03

K.McC#24 wrote on Mon, 19 October 2020 09:11

inverno76 wrote on Thu, 15 October 2020 18:32

GabbyDugan wrote on Thu, 15 October 2020 09:02

The WHL announces start up planned date for 2020-21.

https://whl.ca/article/western-hockey-league-announces-openi ng-date-for-2020-21-regular-season.

"The Western Hockey League Board of Governors announced today the WHL Regular Season is scheduled to open on Friday, January 8, 2021.

The WHL continues to work with each of the Governments and Health Authorities in the Provinces and States in Western Canada and the U.S. Pacific Northwest, respectively, on obtaining the necessary approvals to commence play. Details regarding the schedule of games in each of the four WHL Divisions will be announced at a later date.

The WHL has agreed that all Regular Season games during the 2020-21 season will be played exclusively within the boundaries of each of the four Divisions, with the East Division consisting of the seven Saskatchewan and Manitoba-based teams; the Central Division consisting of the five Alberta-based teams; the B.C. Division consisting of the five B.C.-based teams; and the U.S. Division consisting of the five teams located in Washington and Oregon."






Raiders vs Blades games are going to be fantastic. They hated each other last year and they only played eight times over the complete schedule.

Interested to find out how they’ll handle fans. I’m a season ticket holder of the Raiders and they have roughly 70% of the seats sold to other season ticket holders.

Who gets to go? No box office tickets? As of right now they aren’t saying anything and my playoff tickets from last year haven’t been fully refunded.

Interesting times.



Not sure how a lot of these leagues no matter the sport....those without the huge broadcast contracts anyway....sustain the business model without paying fans in the seats, low to zero ticket and concession revenues.



At least the player cost for WHL is almost nothing too.

Maybe they need to move to small arenas for these games if there's no fans? The cost of those big facilities is probably the largest expense...although who knows, maybe they are tied in by those leases no matter what...

Has there even been a public release of major junior costs? I'd be curious to know what player costs (feeding, housing, college, per diems) actually cost the teams as a percentage of revenue.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 19 October 2020 13:10

Adam wrote on Mon, 19 October 2020 11:03

K.McC#24 wrote on Mon, 19 October 2020 09:11

inverno76 wrote on Thu, 15 October 2020 18:32

GabbyDugan wrote on Thu, 15 October 2020 09:02

The WHL announces start up planned date for 2020-21.

https://whl.ca/article/western-hockey-league-announces-openi ng-date-for-2020-21-regular-season.

"The Western Hockey League Board of Governors announced today the WHL Regular Season is scheduled to open on Friday, January 8, 2021.

The WHL continues to work with each of the Governments and Health Authorities in the Provinces and States in Western Canada and the U.S. Pacific Northwest, respectively, on obtaining the necessary approvals to commence play. Details regarding the schedule of games in each of the four WHL Divisions will be announced at a later date.

The WHL has agreed that all Regular Season games during the 2020-21 season will be played exclusively within the boundaries of each of the four Divisions, with the East Division consisting of the seven Saskatchewan and Manitoba-based teams; the Central Division consisting of the five Alberta-based teams; the B.C. Division consisting of the five B.C.-based teams; and the U.S. Division consisting of the five teams located in Washington and Oregon."






Raiders vs Blades games are going to be fantastic. They hated each other last year and they only played eight times over the complete schedule.

Interested to find out how they’ll handle fans. I’m a season ticket holder of the Raiders and they have roughly 70% of the seats sold to other season ticket holders.

Who gets to go? No box office tickets? As of right now they aren’t saying anything and my playoff tickets from last year haven’t been fully refunded.

Interesting times.



Not sure how a lot of these leagues no matter the sport....those without the huge broadcast contracts anyway....sustain the business model without paying fans in the seats, low to zero ticket and concession revenues.



At least the player cost for WHL is almost nothing too.

Maybe they need to move to small arenas for these games if there's no fans? The cost of those big facilities is probably the largest expense...although who knows, maybe they are tied in by those leases no matter what...

Has there even been a public release of major junior costs? I'd be curious to know what player costs (feeding, housing, college, per diems) actually cost the teams as a percentage of revenue.



I know they generate a lot of their revenue from tickets sales. Raiders probably have the smallest barn in the league but survive because of a great fan base and a bunch of degenerate drunks. We like to get at’er at games.

Having drafted players also is an income source. The Sharks and the Canadians will pump money into the team to help develop Weisblatt and Guhle. The unfortunate side of that money is the NHL team will impose their will from time to time. For example, Draisaitl to Kelowna was a forced deal by MacTavish. Terrible return, but the alternative was Edmonton keeping him in the NHL. Oilers played chicken with a small Dub team and set them back a few years. Leon should’ve got us a kings ransom in prospects and bantam picks.



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inverno76 wrote on Mon, 19 October 2020 18:59

a great fan base and a bunch of degenerate drunks. We like to get at’er at games.





Can confirm. A couple decades back I dated a girl who had two brothers who played for the Raiders. I saw them play in most WHL rinks and the fans in PA were both fantastic and the drunkest!



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PlusOne wrote on Mon, 19 October 2020 21:08

inverno76 wrote on Mon, 19 October 2020 18:59

a great fan base and a bunch of degenerate drunks. We like to get at’er at games.





Can confirm. A couple decades back I dated a girl who had two brothers who played for the Raiders. I saw them play in most WHL rinks and the fans in PA were both fantastic and the drunkest!


Did you date Mike Modano’s ex? Only brothers I can think offhand are Jeff and Todd Nelson.



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inverno76 wrote on Mon, 19 October 2020 22:09

PlusOne wrote on Mon, 19 October 2020 21:08

inverno76 wrote on Mon, 19 October 2020 18:59

a great fan base and a bunch of degenerate drunks. We like to get at’er at games.





Can confirm. A couple decades back I dated a girl who had two brothers who played for the Raiders. I saw them play in most WHL rinks and the fans in PA were both fantastic and the drunkest!


Did you date Mike Modano’s ex? Only brothers I can think offhand are Jeff and Todd Nelson.


Nope, not Modano's ex. The Kress bothers played there. The younger only for one season before he went to Everett



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PlusOne wrote on Tue, 20 October 2020 10:21

inverno76 wrote on Mon, 19 October 2020 22:09

PlusOne wrote on Mon, 19 October 2020 21:08

inverno76 wrote on Mon, 19 October 2020 18:59

a great fan base and a bunch of degenerate drunks. We like to get at’er at games.





Can confirm. A couple decades back I dated a girl who had two brothers who played for the Raiders. I saw them play in most WHL rinks and the fans in PA were both fantastic and the drunkest!


Did you date Mike Modano’s ex? Only brothers I can think offhand are Jeff and Todd Nelson.


Nope, not Modano's ex. The Kress bothers played there. The younger only for one season before he went to Everett


The other story would have been better, but the moral of the story...win or lose, PA drinks the booze.



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K.McC#24 wrote on Mon, 19 October 2020 09:11

inverno76 wrote on Thu, 15 October 2020 18:32

GabbyDugan wrote on Thu, 15 October 2020 09:02

The WHL announces start up planned date for 2020-21.

https://whl.ca/article/western-hockey-league-announces-openi ng-date-for-2020-21-regular-season.

"The Western Hockey League Board of Governors announced today the WHL Regular Season is scheduled to open on Friday, January 8, 2021.

The WHL continues to work with each of the Governments and Health Authorities in the Provinces and States in Western Canada and the U.S. Pacific Northwest, respectively, on obtaining the necessary approvals to commence play. Details regarding the schedule of games in each of the four WHL Divisions will be announced at a later date.

The WHL has agreed that all Regular Season games during the 2020-21 season will be played exclusively within the boundaries of each of the four Divisions, with the East Division consisting of the seven Saskatchewan and Manitoba-based teams; the Central Division consisting of the five Alberta-based teams; the B.C. Division consisting of the five B.C.-based teams; and the U.S. Division consisting of the five teams located in Washington and Oregon."






Raiders vs Blades games are going to be fantastic. They hated each other last year and they only played eight times over the complete schedule.

Interested to find out how they’ll handle fans. I’m a season ticket holder of the Raiders and they have roughly 70% of the seats sold to other season ticket holders.

Who gets to go? No box office tickets? As of right now they aren’t saying anything and my playoff tickets from last year haven’t been fully refunded.

Interesting times.



Not sure how a lot of these leagues no matter the sport....those without the huge broadcast contracts anyway....sustain the business model without paying fans in the seats, low to zero ticket and concession revenues.



WHL, like the OHL, is very much a two-tiered league. The big pocket owners (Edmonton, Calgary, Saskatoon, Regina, etc) will barely notice any losses. The small market owners (PA, Swift Current, Mosse Jaw, Lethbridge, Med Hat, etc) will probably get hit hard. Company that owns Portland has already gone bankrupt (but that team is a money machine so no worries).

NHL may help out. Lord knows they love the free development.



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NetBOG wrote on Mon, 19 October 2020 22:17

K.McC#24 wrote on Mon, 19 October 2020 09:11

inverno76 wrote on Thu, 15 October 2020 18:32

GabbyDugan wrote on Thu, 15 October 2020 09:02

The WHL announces start up planned date for 2020-21.

https://whl.ca/article/western-hockey-league-announces-openi ng-date-for-2020-21-regular-season.

"The Western Hockey League Board of Governors announced today the WHL Regular Season is scheduled to open on Friday, January 8, 2021.

The WHL continues to work with each of the Governments and Health Authorities in the Provinces and States in Western Canada and the U.S. Pacific Northwest, respectively, on obtaining the necessary approvals to commence play. Details regarding the schedule of games in each of the four WHL Divisions will be announced at a later date.

The WHL has agreed that all Regular Season games during the 2020-21 season will be played exclusively within the boundaries of each of the four Divisions, with the East Division consisting of the seven Saskatchewan and Manitoba-based teams; the Central Division consisting of the five Alberta-based teams; the B.C. Division consisting of the five B.C.-based teams; and the U.S. Division consisting of the five teams located in Washington and Oregon."






Raiders vs Blades games are going to be fantastic. They hated each other last year and they only played eight times over the complete schedule.

Interested to find out how they’ll handle fans. I’m a season ticket holder of the Raiders and they have roughly 70% of the seats sold to other season ticket holders.

Who gets to go? No box office tickets? As of right now they aren’t saying anything and my playoff tickets from last year haven’t been fully refunded.

Interesting times.



Not sure how a lot of these leagues no matter the sport....those without the huge broadcast contracts anyway....sustain the business model without paying fans in the seats, low to zero ticket and concession revenues.



WHL, like the OHL, is very much a two-tiered league. The big pocket owners (Edmonton, Calgary, Saskatoon, Regina, etc) will barely notice any losses. The small market owners (PA, Swift Current, Mosse Jaw, Lethbridge, Med Hat, etc) will probably get hit hard. Company that owns Portland has already gone bankrupt (but that team is a money machine so no worries).

NHL may help out. Lord knows they love the free development.


I think the NHL needs to help out. The CHL has been the number one feeder for NHL forever.

I can speak for the Raiders. Their Mem Cup season took home a $633,314 profit. They still have a great team and approximately 2,000 season ticket holders in a 3,000 seat rink. This COVID killed a likely couple rounds of playoff hockey in 2020 and it will cost them again this season even if they can play a full season.

The team depends on their fans, beer sales and lastly merchandise. The prior 5-6 years had us either making $50-$60k or losing $125k. That’s the difference of keeping a couple employees or losing more than a couple every season.

Tough business.

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