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Per Oilers twitter:

Mike Green has informed #Oilers President of Hockey Operations & General Manager Ken Holland that he will be opting out of the @NHL's 2020 Return To Play Program.

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Apparently he had some health issue with a virus a few years ago. I imagine that played into his decision. It's too bad for the Oilers and the assets they lost to get him, but I fully respect his decision.



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Oilers trade Brodziak and a 4th round pick for 2 games of Mike Green looking lost in his own zone.


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Kr55 wrote on Sat, 11 July 2020 17:55

Oilers trade Brodziak and a 4th round pick for 2 games of Mike Green looking lost in his own zone.


To be fair, Zombie Brodziak is not a loss, so it's really just the 4th round pick. We'll have to wait to find out if that pick gets more than two games with the Red Wings to finally decide winners and losers in this trade...



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Adam wrote on Sat, 11 July 2020 20:02

Kr55 wrote on Sat, 11 July 2020 17:55

Oilers trade Brodziak and a 4th round pick for 2 games of Mike Green looking lost in his own zone.


To be fair, Zombie Brodziak is not a loss, so it's really just the 4th round pick. We'll have to wait to find out if that pick gets more than two games with the Red Wings to finally decide winners and losers in this trade...


Well, considering Yzerman is a brilliant GM, one of the best all time already, I think that 4th rounder has a pretty good shot to be the next Lidstrom.



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Guess it provides an opening for Mr. Bouchard.
Green going to chill for the summer on the deck until UFA season



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Skookum Jim wrote on Sun, 12 July 2020 02:24

Guess it provides an opening for Mr. Bouchard.
Green going to chill for the summer on the deck until UFA season


I do respect the decision. It was likely a tough one to make. Without that playoff exposure it might be a quiet UFA offseason for Green. I could see him being a PTO guy come next December if he doesn’t just retire. It’s not like COVID is going away.



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As we’ve heard there are still ongoing discussions about the Lucic pick, Oilers should push for the draft pick to be a later round as a result of this. Might not go anywhere but until the other stuff is settled I wouldn’t just accept the loss.


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CrudeRemarks wrote on Sun, 12 July 2020 10:19

As we’ve heard there are still ongoing discussions about the Lucic pick, Oilers should push for the draft pick to be a later round as a result of this. Might not go anywhere but until the other stuff is settled I wouldn’t just accept the loss.


The Oilers should push for not giving up a pick at all. Conditions were not met, end of story.



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Gator21 wrote on Sun, 12 July 2020 12:25

CrudeRemarks wrote on Sun, 12 July 2020 10:19

As we’ve heard there are still ongoing discussions about the Lucic pick, Oilers should push for the draft pick to be a later round as a result of this. Might not go anywhere but until the other stuff is settled I wouldn’t just accept the loss.


The Oilers should push for not giving up a pick at all. Conditions were not met, end of story.


Ridiculous that it's taking this long to make the Lames just accept that. We have plenty of arguments on our side, like how Neal was injured and may have barely played the rest of the year. Looch was also scoring more in the 2nd half of the season.

What a joke it would be if we gave this pick up.



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Kr55 wrote on Sun, 12 July 2020 11:34

Gator21 wrote on Sun, 12 July 2020 12:25

CrudeRemarks wrote on Sun, 12 July 2020 10:19

As we’ve heard there are still ongoing discussions about the Lucic pick, Oilers should push for the draft pick to be a later round as a result of this. Might not go anywhere but until the other stuff is settled I wouldn’t just accept the loss.


The Oilers should push for not giving up a pick at all. Conditions were not met, end of story.


Ridiculous that it's taking this long to make the Lames just accept that. We have plenty of arguments on our side, like how Neal was injured and may have barely played the rest of the year. Looch was also scoring more in the 2nd half of the season.

What a joke it would be if we gave this pick up.


Based on rational thought and fairness, this would have been decided long ago if it was anyone else but the Oilers, season over, points remain as is, the terms were not met, end of freaking story, but the NHL just loves warping the rules to stick it to this franchise. Just have to remember the SECOND and THIRD round picks given up for McClellan and Chiarelli, based on the nonsensical idea that you have to give up a high pick to hire someone else's fired employee, and in doing so saving them money by not having to pay out their remaining contract. Soon abandoned the rule after Oilers got stiffed... twice. That was freaking robbery.

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Skookum Jim wrote on Sun, 12 July 2020 19:47

Kr55 wrote on Sun, 12 July 2020 11:34

Gator21 wrote on Sun, 12 July 2020 12:25

CrudeRemarks wrote on Sun, 12 July 2020 10:19

As we’ve heard there are still ongoing discussions about the Lucic pick, Oilers should push for the draft pick to be a later round as a result of this. Might not go anywhere but until the other stuff is settled I wouldn’t just accept the loss.


The Oilers should push for not giving up a pick at all. Conditions were not met, end of story.


Ridiculous that it's taking this long to make the Lames just accept that. We have plenty of arguments on our side, like how Neal was injured and may have barely played the rest of the year. Looch was also scoring more in the 2nd half of the season.

What a joke it would be if we gave this pick up.


Based on rational thought and fairness, this would have been decided long ago if it was anyone else but the Oilers, season over, points remain as is, the terms were not met, end of freaking story, but the NHL just loves warping the rules to stick it to this franchise. Just have to remember the SECOND and THIRD round picks given up for McClellan and Chiarelli, based on the nonsensical idea that you have to give up a high pick to hire someone else's fired employee, and in doing so saving them money by not having to pay out their remaining contract. Soon abandoned the rule after Oilers got stiffed... twice. That was freaking robbery.

https://edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/cult-of-hockey /edmonton-oilers-will-pay-draft-pick-compensation-for-gm-chi arelli-coach-mclellan



The team is just horrible at fighting those things too. New Jersey was penalized a first round pick for cap circumvention with Kovalchuk and then they just did some Jedi Mind Trick and the penalty disappeared. The Oilers, meanwhile, were one of the only teams stung by that stupid GM/coach rule and even after the league had eliminated the rule, we still just dutifully handed the picks over.

Stings even worse, considering both the GM and the coach really stink and did more harm than good.



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CrudeRemarks wrote on Sun, 12 July 2020 10:19

As we’ve heard there are still ongoing discussions about the Lucic pick, Oilers should push for the draft pick to be a later round as a result of this. Might not go anywhere but until the other stuff is settled I wouldn’t just accept the loss.


Can't see this being a successful argument though - if we'd made the trade and he was just injured (as he was, actually), we could've been in the same situation.

The good news is that if we go deep in the playoffs, then the pick doesn't upgrade as the original conditions set out that he needed to play half the games.

I don't have any issue with Benning as the third RD. He does something right, because he just doesn't get scored on at the same rate as other Oilers defencemen year after year. I don't think he's likely to elevate to a top pairing guy ever in his career, but with controlled minutes, he does well and the team outscores opponents when he's on the ice.



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Adam wrote on Sun, 12 July 2020 21:17

CrudeRemarks wrote on Sun, 12 July 2020 10:19

As we’ve heard there are still ongoing discussions about the Lucic pick, Oilers should push for the draft pick to be a later round as a result of this. Might not go anywhere but until the other stuff is settled I wouldn’t just accept the loss.


Can't see this being a successful argument though - if we'd made the trade and he was just injured (as he was, actually), we could've been in the same situation.

The good news is that if we go deep in the playoffs, then the pick doesn't upgrade as the original conditions set out that he needed to play half the games.

I don't have any issue with Benning as the third RD. He does something right, because he just doesn't get scored on at the same rate as other Oilers defencemen year after year. I don't think he's likely to elevate to a top pairing guy ever in his career, but with controlled minutes, he does well and the team outscores opponents when he's on the ice.

I agree it's low probability, but slightly higher if they lose the Lucic pick. I'd be making a stink.



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CrudeRemarks wrote on Sun, 12 July 2020 22:46

Adam wrote on Sun, 12 July 2020 21:17

CrudeRemarks wrote on Sun, 12 July 2020 10:19

As we’ve heard there are still ongoing discussions about the Lucic pick, Oilers should push for the draft pick to be a later round as a result of this. Might not go anywhere but until the other stuff is settled I wouldn’t just accept the loss.


Can't see this being a successful argument though - if we'd made the trade and he was just injured (as he was, actually), we could've been in the same situation.

The good news is that if we go deep in the playoffs, then the pick doesn't upgrade as the original conditions set out that he needed to play half the games.

I don't have any issue with Benning as the third RD. He does something right, because he just doesn't get scored on at the same rate as other Oilers defencemen year after year. I don't think he's likely to elevate to a top pairing guy ever in his career, but with controlled minutes, he does well and the team outscores opponents when he's on the ice.

I agree it's low probability, but slightly higher if they lose the Lucic pick. I'd be making a stink.


I can't see the Flames being successful on that appeal. They set the parameters and they weren't achieved. Neal was injured up until COVID killed the season, so no guarantees he would have scored enough goals. There's just no good argument to give the Flames the pick.



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I guess that ends the debate as to who should play on the right side of the 3rd pairing, Benning or Green. I would have preferred Green.

A guy has to do what he feels is best for him and his family but that has to hurt his chances at a next contract if he wants one.



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Adam wrote on Mon, 13 July 2020 00:24

CrudeRemarks wrote on Sun, 12 July 2020 22:46

Adam wrote on Sun, 12 July 2020 21:17

CrudeRemarks wrote on Sun, 12 July 2020 10:19

As we’ve heard there are still ongoing discussions about the Lucic pick, Oilers should push for the draft pick to be a later round as a result of this. Might not go anywhere but until the other stuff is settled I wouldn’t just accept the loss.


Can't see this being a successful argument though - if we'd made the trade and he was just injured (as he was, actually), we could've been in the same situation.

The good news is that if we go deep in the playoffs, then the pick doesn't upgrade as the original conditions set out that he needed to play half the games.

I don't have any issue with Benning as the third RD. He does something right, because he just doesn't get scored on at the same rate as other Oilers defencemen year after year. I don't think he's likely to elevate to a top pairing guy ever in his career, but with controlled minutes, he does well and the team outscores opponents when he's on the ice.

I agree it's low probability, but slightly higher if they lose the Lucic pick. I'd be making a stink.


I can't see the Flames being successful on that appeal. They set the parameters and they weren't achieved. Neal was injured up until COVID killed the season, so no guarantees he would have scored enough goals. There's just no good argument to give the Flames the pick.



I'd say based on the intention of the clause, that they'd have an argument.



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Magnum wrote on Mon, 13 July 2020 08:27

Adam wrote on Mon, 13 July 2020 00:24

CrudeRemarks wrote on Sun, 12 July 2020 22:46

Adam wrote on Sun, 12 July 2020 21:17

CrudeRemarks wrote on Sun, 12 July 2020 10:19

As we’ve heard there are still ongoing discussions about the Lucic pick, Oilers should push for the draft pick to be a later round as a result of this. Might not go anywhere but until the other stuff is settled I wouldn’t just accept the loss.


Can't see this being a successful argument though - if we'd made the trade and he was just injured (as he was, actually), we could've been in the same situation.

The good news is that if we go deep in the playoffs, then the pick doesn't upgrade as the original conditions set out that he needed to play half the games.

I don't have any issue with Benning as the third RD. He does something right, because he just doesn't get scored on at the same rate as other Oilers defencemen year after year. I don't think he's likely to elevate to a top pairing guy ever in his career, but with controlled minutes, he does well and the team outscores opponents when he's on the ice.

I agree it's low probability, but slightly higher if they lose the Lucic pick. I'd be making a stink.


I can't see the Flames being successful on that appeal. They set the parameters and they weren't achieved. Neal was injured up until COVID killed the season, so no guarantees he would have scored enough goals. There's just no good argument to give the Flames the pick.



I'd say based on the intention of the clause, that they'd have an argument.



There's nothing in the clause about pro-rating. Both players could have been injured, and Neal was. The fact the season didn't finish isn't contemplated. Daly and Bettman are both lawyers, and in contract law, what the deal actually says is of paramount importance and there's not a lot of room for interpreting when specific numbers are detailed. The clause specifically says if Neal has 21 or more goals and that's at least 10 more than Lucic, then we owe the pick. Neal didn't score 21 goals. Period.



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Adam wrote on Mon, 13 July 2020 08:41

Magnum wrote on Mon, 13 July 2020 08:27

Adam wrote on Mon, 13 July 2020 00:24

CrudeRemarks wrote on Sun, 12 July 2020 22:46

Adam wrote on Sun, 12 July 2020 21:17

CrudeRemarks wrote on Sun, 12 July 2020 10:19

As we’ve heard there are still ongoing discussions about the Lucic pick, Oilers should push for the draft pick to be a later round as a result of this. Might not go anywhere but until the other stuff is settled I wouldn’t just accept the loss.


Can't see this being a successful argument though - if we'd made the trade and he was just injured (as he was, actually), we could've been in the same situation.

The good news is that if we go deep in the playoffs, then the pick doesn't upgrade as the original conditions set out that he needed to play half the games.

I don't have any issue with Benning as the third RD. He does something right, because he just doesn't get scored on at the same rate as other Oilers defencemen year after year. I don't think he's likely to elevate to a top pairing guy ever in his career, but with controlled minutes, he does well and the team outscores opponents when he's on the ice.

I agree it's low probability, but slightly higher if they lose the Lucic pick. I'd be making a stink.


I can't see the Flames being successful on that appeal. They set the parameters and they weren't achieved. Neal was injured up until COVID killed the season, so no guarantees he would have scored enough goals. There's just no good argument to give the Flames the pick.



I'd say based on the intention of the clause, that they'd have an argument.



There's nothing in the clause about pro-rating. Both players could have been injured, and Neal was. The fact the season didn't finish isn't contemplated. Daly and Bettman are both lawyers, and in contract law, what the deal actually says is of paramount importance and there's not a lot of room for interpreting when specific numbers are detailed. The clause specifically says if Neal has 21 or more goals and that's at least 10 more than Lucic, then we owe the pick. Neal didn't score 21 goals. Period.


I don't disagree that he didn't score 21 goals. You and I have taken basically, if not exactly, the same classes on law, so you definitely know that the spirit of the law can be just as, or more important than the specifics.

What if there's an "Act of God" clause? Most contracts have those. I'm sure that due to unprecedented times, unprecedented things will result.

I don't think that they get the pick, but if I know anything about law, it's that decisions occur that are unexpected, and seemingly counter-intuitive.

My guess, is that if you CanLii it up for 30 minutes, you'll find at least one example where the wording was trumped (small "t") by the spirit of the law.





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Magnum wrote on Mon, 13 July 2020 09:23

Adam wrote on Mon, 13 July 2020 08:41

Magnum wrote on Mon, 13 July 2020 08:27

Adam wrote on Mon, 13 July 2020 00:24

CrudeRemarks wrote on Sun, 12 July 2020 22:46

Adam wrote on Sun, 12 July 2020 21:17

CrudeRemarks wrote on Sun, 12 July 2020 10:19

As we’ve heard there are still ongoing discussions about the Lucic pick, Oilers should push for the draft pick to be a later round as a result of this. Might not go anywhere but until the other stuff is settled I wouldn’t just accept the loss.


Can't see this being a successful argument though - if we'd made the trade and he was just injured (as he was, actually), we could've been in the same situation.

The good news is that if we go deep in the playoffs, then the pick doesn't upgrade as the original conditions set out that he needed to play half the games.

I don't have any issue with Benning as the third RD. He does something right, because he just doesn't get scored on at the same rate as other Oilers defencemen year after year. I don't think he's likely to elevate to a top pairing guy ever in his career, but with controlled minutes, he does well and the team outscores opponents when he's on the ice.

I agree it's low probability, but slightly higher if they lose the Lucic pick. I'd be making a stink.


I can't see the Flames being successful on that appeal. They set the parameters and they weren't achieved. Neal was injured up until COVID killed the season, so no guarantees he would have scored enough goals. There's just no good argument to give the Flames the pick.



I'd say based on the intention of the clause, that they'd have an argument.



There's nothing in the clause about pro-rating. Both players could have been injured, and Neal was. The fact the season didn't finish isn't contemplated. Daly and Bettman are both lawyers, and in contract law, what the deal actually says is of paramount importance and there's not a lot of room for interpreting when specific numbers are detailed. The clause specifically says if Neal has 21 or more goals and that's at least 10 more than Lucic, then we owe the pick. Neal didn't score 21 goals. Period.


I don't disagree that he didn't score 21 goals. You and I have taken basically, if not exactly, the same classes on law, so you definitely know that the spirit of the law can be just as, or more important than the specifics.

What if there's an "Act of God" clause? Most contracts have those. I'm sure that due to unprecedented times, unprecedented things will result.

I don't think that they get the pick, but if I know anything about law, it's that decisions occur that are unexpected, and seemingly counter-intuitive.

My guess, is that if you CanLii it up for 30 minutes, you'll find at least one example where the wording was trumped (small "t") by the spirit of the law.



There's no act of god clause. What would that even look like in a deal like this?

This will be decided by lawyers, but not in any court. I would be absolutely flabbergasted if the Oilers had to give up the pick. There were clearly set out parameters, and they didn't happen.

I have a little more exposure to contract law than a couple of legal relations classes in university 20-odd years ago. I feel pretty confident here.



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Adam wrote on Mon, 13 July 2020 12:07

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CrudeRemarks wrote on Sun, 12 July 2020 22:46

Adam wrote on Sun, 12 July 2020 21:17

CrudeRemarks wrote on Sun, 12 July 2020 10:19

As we’ve heard there are still ongoing discussions about the Lucic pick, Oilers should push for the draft pick to be a later round as a result of this. Might not go anywhere but until the other stuff is settled I wouldn’t just accept the loss.


Can't see this being a successful argument though - if we'd made the trade and he was just injured (as he was, actually), we could've been in the same situation.

The good news is that if we go deep in the playoffs, then the pick doesn't upgrade as the original conditions set out that he needed to play half the games.

I don't have any issue with Benning as the third RD. He does something right, because he just doesn't get scored on at the same rate as other Oilers defencemen year after year. I don't think he's likely to elevate to a top pairing guy ever in his career, but with controlled minutes, he does well and the team outscores opponents when he's on the ice.

I agree it's low probability, but slightly higher if they lose the Lucic pick. I'd be making a stink.


I can't see the Flames being successful on that appeal. They set the parameters and they weren't achieved. Neal was injured up until COVID killed the season, so no guarantees he would have scored enough goals. There's just no good argument to give the Flames the pick.



I'd say based on the intention of the clause, that they'd have an argument.



There's nothing in the clause about pro-rating. Both players could have been injured, and Neal was. The fact the season didn't finish isn't contemplated. Daly and Bettman are both lawyers, and in contract law, what the deal actually says is of paramount importance and there's not a lot of room for interpreting when specific numbers are detailed. The clause specifically says if Neal has 21 or more goals and that's at least 10 more than Lucic, then we owe the pick. Neal didn't score 21 goals. Period.


I don't disagree that he didn't score 21 goals. You and I have taken basically, if not exactly, the same classes on law, so you definitely know that the spirit of the law can be just as, or more important than the specifics.

What if there's an "Act of God" clause? Most contracts have those. I'm sure that due to unprecedented times, unprecedented things will result.

I don't think that they get the pick, but if I know anything about law, it's that decisions occur that are unexpected, and seemingly counter-intuitive.

My guess, is that if you CanLii it up for 30 minutes, you'll find at least one example where the wording was trumped (small "t") by the spirit of the law.



There's no act of god clause. What would that even look like in a deal like this?

This will be decided by lawyers, but not in any court. I would be absolutely flabbergasted if the Oilers had to give up the pick. There were clearly set out parameters, and they didn't happen.

I have a little more exposure to contract law than a couple of legal relations classes in university 20-odd years ago. I feel pretty confident here.


You read the contract?



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