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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #24) [message #747351 is a reply to message #747347 ]
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We can probably mail this one in now that we have a buffer on the wild card teams


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CrudeRemarks wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 08:19

We can probably mail this one in now that we have a buffer on the wild card teams


Winning teams NEVER take the night off.



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CrudeRemarks wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 08:19

We can probably mail this one in now that we have a buffer on the wild card teams

Well, that will be the measure, won't it? So far this season, we've seen them follow up convincing wins with sleepy starts and crushing defeats.



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Please don't let us lose to Todd McLellan. The shame would be hard to bear.


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CrudeRemarks wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 08:19

We can probably mail this one in now that we have a buffer on the wild card teams

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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #24) [message #747356 is a reply to message #747347 ]
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This is a trap game.
Kings will be motivated, and come out hard, Oil better do a double dose of smelling salts before the start of this one,
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...they've got good momentum from the SJ game, how they come out in this one will be an indication of team maturity.




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To me this is a test game. The Oilers beat the Sharks pretty handily. It was a payback game against a team they have struggled with for the last few years in a building they don't play well in on a lot of nights, coming off a loss where they let a game split away. So they should have been motivated. So the fact they played well, wasn't a total shock. I expected they would.

If the Oilers want to be a good team, a good team wins this game. The Oilers have the better record, with the better roster. It's not a back to back nor did they have to travel far. There is no major injuries, fatigue shouldn't be a factor. There is no excuse not to play well tonight.

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Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 09:31

This is a trap game.
Kings will be motivated, and come out hard, Oil better do a double dose of smelling salts before the start of this one,
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/UnfortunateUnhappyButterfly-size_restricted.gif

...they've got good momentum from the SJ game, how they come out in this one will be an indication of team maturity.




Yeah, fully expecting an egg laying tonight after over a decade of conditioning. Please prove me wrong Oilers.



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Kr55 wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 09:42


Yeah, fully expecting an egg laying tonight after over a decade of conditioning. Please prove me wrong Oilers.


McLellan will know that the key to stopping the Oilers is to try to shut down McDavid/Draisaitl, but we also know he doesn't like to game-plan for specific teams - believes you shouldn't let other teams change the way you play, so hopefully he's just rolling the lines tonight.



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Adam wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 09:46

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 09:42


Yeah, fully expecting an egg laying tonight after over a decade of conditioning. Please prove me wrong Oilers.


McLellan will know that the key to stopping the Oilers is to try to shut down McDavid/Draisaitl, but we also know he doesn't like to game-plan for specific teams - believes you shouldn't let other teams change the way you play, so hopefully he's just rolling the lines tonight.


He'll just keep rolling those lines! And chewing that gum!



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Kr55 wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 09:51

Adam wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 09:46

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 09:42


Yeah, fully expecting an egg laying tonight after over a decade of conditioning. Please prove me wrong Oilers.


McLellan will know that the key to stopping the Oilers is to try to shut down McDavid/Draisaitl, but we also know he doesn't like to game-plan for specific teams - believes you shouldn't let other teams change the way you play, so hopefully he's just rolling the lines tonight.


He'll just keep rolling those lines! And chewing that gum!


Now would be a really good time for Tippett to talk about refs missing calls on McDavid...



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Adam wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 09:46

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 09:42


Yeah, fully expecting an egg laying tonight after over a decade of conditioning. Please prove me wrong Oilers.


McLellan will know that the key to stopping the Oilers is to try to shut down McDavid/Draisaitl, but we also know he doesn't like to game-plan for specific teams - believes you shouldn't let other teams change the way you play, so hopefully he's just rolling the lines tonight.

Especially on the PP



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I imagine Smith will draw in for this one and he's well rested. Wonder if Larsson is ready. Would be sweet to beat Todd's team and very winnable game if the Oilers come out like they can.


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overdue wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 08:46

I imagine Smith will draw in for this one and he's well rested. Wonder if Larsson is ready. Would be sweet to beat Todd's team and very winnable game if the Oilers come out like they can.


Heard on 1260 he's likely playing tonight.



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Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 11:26

overdue wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 08:46

I imagine Smith will draw in for this one and he's well rested. Wonder if Larsson is ready. Would be sweet to beat Todd's team and very winnable game if the Oilers come out like they can.


Heard on 1260 he's likely playing tonight.



Can’t remember where I heard this, but their plan is a 2 game rotation aside form back to backs.



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Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 09:31

This is a trap game.
Kings will be motivated, and come out hard, Oil better do a double dose of smelling salts before the start of this one,
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/UnfortunateUnhappyButterfly-size_restricted.gif

...they've got good momentum from the SJ game, how they come out in this one will be an indication of team maturity.




Yes indeed.There seems to be no such thing as momentum with the Oilers, but it would be a great opportunity to build up some tonight. The secondary scoring is starting to come along, and the defence is doing great work in all zones with Larsson possibility coming back tonight.

A couple of things I would like to see is some scoring from Neal and/or Chiasson. Of course it goes without saying some McDavid. and Draisaitl contributions are always a bonus for a real Oier fan,, Nugent-Hopkins still seems a little off his game, but is coming on game to game. He is due for a star worthy performance.

Like almost everyone, I didn’t have much faith in the Oilers goaltending at the start of the season and thought Holland should look for a new goalie coach. Miles to go for the.season but goaltending has bet adequate plus.

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The good teams consistently beat the bottom feeders, that's where they can rack up the points to become 100+ point teams and top playoff seeds. Are the Oilers a good team yet? LA has no business beating the Oilers tonight which is probably why it feels like guaranteed loss night for the Oil. I think I have DODPTSD.
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jds308 wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 11:42

The good teams consistently beat the bottom feeders, that's where they can rack up the points to become 100+ point teams and top playoff seeds. Are the Oilers a good team yet? LA has no business beating the Oilers tonight which is probably why it feels like guaranteed loss night for the Oil. I think I have DODPTSD.
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Until we make the playoffs I don’t think it can be considered “post” trauma. Things could go sideways in about 4 games (or one injury).



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CrudeRemarks wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 11:22

jds308 wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 11:42

The good teams consistently beat the bottom feeders, that's where they can rack up the points to become 100+ point teams and top playoff seeds. Are the Oilers a good team yet? LA has no business beating the Oilers tonight which is probably why it feels like guaranteed loss night for the Oil. I think I have DODPTSD.
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Until we make the playoffs I don’t think it can be considered “post” trauma. Things could go sideways in about 4 games (or one injury).


That's a fair point, the trauma is current and ongoing. I don't have a clever acronym for that, I only know that my relationship with the Oilers has been bordering on emotionally abusive for some time now. I'm really trying to enjoy the ride so far this year.



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jds308 wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 12:31

CrudeRemarks wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 11:22

jds308 wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 11:42

The good teams consistently beat the bottom feeders, that's where they can rack up the points to become 100+ point teams and top playoff seeds. Are the Oilers a good team yet? LA has no business beating the Oilers tonight which is probably why it feels like guaranteed loss night for the Oil. I think I have DODPTSD.
(Decade of Darkness post-traumatic stress disorder)

Until we make the playoffs I don’t think it can be considered “post” trauma. Things could go sideways in about 4 games (or one injury).


That's a fair point, the trauma is current and ongoing. I don't have a clever acronym for that, I only know that my relationship with the Oilers has been bordering on emotionally abusive for some time now. I'm really trying to enjoy the ride so far this year.


Larsson/Russell is apparently a pairing tonight...so that might be traumatic to watch all on its own...That hasn't been the best when they've been paired before.



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Adam wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 14:36

jds308 wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 12:31

CrudeRemarks wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 11:22

jds308 wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 11:42

The good teams consistently beat the bottom feeders, that's where they can rack up the points to become 100+ point teams and top playoff seeds. Are the Oilers a good team yet? LA has no business beating the Oilers tonight which is probably why it feels like guaranteed loss night for the Oil. I think I have DODPTSD.
(Decade of Darkness post-traumatic stress disorder)

Until we make the playoffs I don’t think it can be considered “post” trauma. Things could go sideways in about 4 games (or one injury).


That's a fair point, the trauma is current and ongoing. I don't have a clever acronym for that, I only know that my relationship with the Oilers has been bordering on emotionally abusive for some time now. I'm really trying to enjoy the ride so far this year.


Larsson/Russell is apparently a pairing tonight...so that might be traumatic to watch all on its own...That hasn't been the best when they've been paired before.

Larsson couldn't possibly be worse than Manning, I hope....



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Ragnarok73 wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 15:30

Adam wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 14:36

jds308 wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 12:31

CrudeRemarks wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 11:22

jds308 wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 11:42

The good teams consistently beat the bottom feeders, that's where they can rack up the points to become 100+ point teams and top playoff seeds. Are the Oilers a good team yet? LA has no business beating the Oilers tonight which is probably why it feels like guaranteed loss night for the Oil. I think I have DODPTSD.
(Decade of Darkness post-traumatic stress disorder)

Until we make the playoffs I don’t think it can be considered “post” trauma. Things could go sideways in about 4 games (or one injury).


That's a fair point, the trauma is current and ongoing. I don't have a clever acronym for that, I only know that my relationship with the Oilers has been bordering on emotionally abusive for some time now. I'm really trying to enjoy the ride so far this year.


Larsson/Russell is apparently a pairing tonight...so that might be traumatic to watch all on its own...That hasn't been the best when they've been paired before.

Larsson couldn't possibly be worse than Manning, I hope....


Excellent point. It's shocking that we're this far in to the season and Manning is still on the roster.



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Adam wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 15:35

Ragnarok73 wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 15:30

Adam wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 14:36

jds308 wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 12:31

CrudeRemarks wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 11:22

jds308 wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 11:42

The good teams consistently beat the bottom feeders, that's where they can rack up the points to become 100+ point teams and top playoff seeds. Are the Oilers a good team yet? LA has no business beating the Oilers tonight which is probably why it feels like guaranteed loss night for the Oil. I think I have DODPTSD.
(Decade of Darkness post-traumatic stress disorder)

Until we make the playoffs I don’t think it can be considered “post” trauma. Things could go sideways in about 4 games (or one injury).


That's a fair point, the trauma is current and ongoing. I don't have a clever acronym for that, I only know that my relationship with the Oilers has been bordering on emotionally abusive for some time now. I'm really trying to enjoy the ride so far this year.


Larsson/Russell is apparently a pairing tonight...so that might be traumatic to watch all on its own...That hasn't been the best when they've been paired before.

Larsson couldn't possibly be worse than Manning, I hope....


Excellent point. It's shocking that we're this far in to the season and Manning is still on the roster.

I can't stand Manning either but I would be curious to know how much of having Manning on the roster had to do with a plan to keep Jones down as long as they could?

A lot of people had Jones as an automatic on the Oilers, yet he wasn't that great in camp and was sent down. I heard an interview with him when he was called up and he said he took the demotion hard, took him a little bit to get over it. Then before the call up he was the best dman by a mile down there and was playing excellent and had been for most of the season. I think Manning is borderline useless and he's played more than I ever expected but even playing him in 9 games, the Oilers are first in their division, tied for first in the West and if giving Jones a month and a half to figure his game out and do that last bit of developing that he needed, it maybe paid off. It's only been 3 games so far but he's been pretty rock solid so far.

If he can keep it going and be anything close to Bear, it might open some options sooner rather than later to unload a dman for some forward help. I don't think you can get rid of a bigger contract mid season but what about a Benning? If Jones keeps going and makes it so you can't take him out, could you package Bennings who's a pretty solid right shot, 3rd pairing guy who doesn't make much for that 3rd line center they could use?

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RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 16:26

Adam wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 15:35

Ragnarok73 wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 15:30

Adam wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 14:36

jds308 wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 12:31

CrudeRemarks wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 11:22

jds308 wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 11:42

The good teams consistently beat the bottom feeders, that's where they can rack up the points to become 100+ point teams and top playoff seeds. Are the Oilers a good team yet? LA has no business beating the Oilers tonight which is probably why it feels like guaranteed loss night for the Oil. I think I have DODPTSD.
(Decade of Darkness post-traumatic stress disorder)

Until we make the playoffs I don’t think it can be considered “post” trauma. Things could go sideways in about 4 games (or one injury).


That's a fair point, the trauma is current and ongoing. I don't have a clever acronym for that, I only know that my relationship with the Oilers has been bordering on emotionally abusive for some time now. I'm really trying to enjoy the ride so far this year.


Larsson/Russell is apparently a pairing tonight...so that might be traumatic to watch all on its own...That hasn't been the best when they've been paired before.

Larsson couldn't possibly be worse than Manning, I hope....


Excellent point. It's shocking that we're this far in to the season and Manning is still on the roster.

I can't stand Manning either but I would be curious to know how much of having Manning on the roster had to do with a plan to keep Jones down as long as they could?

A lot of people had Jones as an automatic on the Oilers, yet he wasn't that great in camp and was sent down. I heard an interview with him when he was called up and he said he took the demotion hard, took him a little bit to get over it. Then before the call up he was the best dman by a mile down there and was playing excellent and had been for most of the season. I think Manning is borderline useless and he's played more than I ever expected but even playing him in 9 games, the Oilers are first in their division, tied for first in the West and if giving Jones a month and a half to figure his game out and do that last bit of developing that he needed, it maybe paid off. It's only been 3 games so far but he's been pretty rock solid so far.

If he can keep it going and be anything close to Bear, it might open some options sooner rather than later to unload a dman for some forward help. I don't think you can get rid of a bigger contract mid season but what about a Benning? If Jones keeps going and makes it so you can't take him out, could you package Bennings who's a pretty solid right shot, 3rd pairing guy who doesn't make much for that 3rd line center they could use?


2 goals. Manning has been on the ice for 2 goals against (and 1 goal for) in 9 games. He hasn't been bad. I know I've said this at least 3 times, but nobody will listen.



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jds308 wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 11:42

The good teams consistently beat the bottom feeders, that's where they can rack up the points to become 100+ point teams and top playoff seeds. Are the Oilers a good team yet? LA has no business beating the Oilers tonight which is probably why it feels like guaranteed loss night for the Oil. I think I have DODPTSD.
(Decade of Darkness post-traumatic stress disorder)

Until we make the playoffs I don’t think it can be considered “post” trauma. Things could go sideways in about 4 games (or one injury).


That's a fair point, the trauma is current and ongoing. I don't have a clever acronym for that, I only know that my relationship with the Oilers has been bordering on emotionally abusive for some time now. I'm really trying to enjoy the ride so far this year.


Larsson/Russell is apparently a pairing tonight...so that might be traumatic to watch all on its own...That hasn't been the best when they've been paired before.

Larsson couldn't possibly be worse than Manning, I hope....


Excellent point. It's shocking that we're this far in to the season and Manning is still on the roster.

I can't stand Manning either but I would be curious to know how much of having Manning on the roster had to do with a plan to keep Jones down as long as they could?

A lot of people had Jones as an automatic on the Oilers, yet he wasn't that great in camp and was sent down. I heard an interview with him when he was called up and he said he took the demotion hard, took him a little bit to get over it. Then before the call up he was the best dman by a mile down there and was playing excellent and had been for most of the season. I think Manning is borderline useless and he's played more than I ever expected but even playing him in 9 games, the Oilers are first in their division, tied for first in the West and if giving Jones a month and a half to figure his game out and do that last bit of developing that he needed, it maybe paid off. It's only been 3 games so far but he's been pretty rock solid so far.

If he can keep it going and be anything close to Bear, it might open some options sooner rather than later to unload a dman for some forward help. I don't think you can get rid of a bigger contract mid season but what about a Benning? If Jones keeps going and makes it so you can't take him out, could you package Bennings who's a pretty solid right shot, 3rd pairing guy who doesn't make much for that 3rd line center they could use?


2 goals. Manning has been on the ice for 2 goals against (and 1 goal for) in 9 games. He hasn't been bad. I know I've said this at least 3 times, but nobody will listen.

Ah so he’s a minus player.



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NetBOG wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 17:55

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 16:26

Adam wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 15:35

Ragnarok73 wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 15:30

Adam wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 14:36

jds308 wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 12:31

CrudeRemarks wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 11:22

jds308 wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 11:42

The good teams consistently beat the bottom feeders, that's where they can rack up the points to become 100+ point teams and top playoff seeds. Are the Oilers a good team yet? LA has no business beating the Oilers tonight which is probably why it feels like guaranteed loss night for the Oil. I think I have DODPTSD.
(Decade of Darkness post-traumatic stress disorder)

Until we make the playoffs I don’t think it can be considered “post” trauma. Things could go sideways in about 4 games (or one injury).


That's a fair point, the trauma is current and ongoing. I don't have a clever acronym for that, I only know that my relationship with the Oilers has been bordering on emotionally abusive for some time now. I'm really trying to enjoy the ride so far this year.


Larsson/Russell is apparently a pairing tonight...so that might be traumatic to watch all on its own...That hasn't been the best when they've been paired before.

Larsson couldn't possibly be worse than Manning, I hope....


Excellent point. It's shocking that we're this far in to the season and Manning is still on the roster.

I can't stand Manning either but I would be curious to know how much of having Manning on the roster had to do with a plan to keep Jones down as long as they could?

A lot of people had Jones as an automatic on the Oilers, yet he wasn't that great in camp and was sent down. I heard an interview with him when he was called up and he said he took the demotion hard, took him a little bit to get over it. Then before the call up he was the best dman by a mile down there and was playing excellent and had been for most of the season. I think Manning is borderline useless and he's played more than I ever expected but even playing him in 9 games, the Oilers are first in their division, tied for first in the West and if giving Jones a month and a half to figure his game out and do that last bit of developing that he needed, it maybe paid off. It's only been 3 games so far but he's been pretty rock solid so far.

If he can keep it going and be anything close to Bear, it might open some options sooner rather than later to unload a dman for some forward help. I don't think you can get rid of a bigger contract mid season but what about a Benning? If Jones keeps going and makes it so you can't take him out, could you package Bennings who's a pretty solid right shot, 3rd pairing guy who doesn't make much for that 3rd line center they could use?


2 goals. Manning has been on the ice for 2 goals against (and 1 goal for) in 9 games. He hasn't been bad. I know I've said this at least 3 times, but nobody will listen.


He is also the;
- worst on the team in give aways per 60
- worst on the team in zone exits

When he is on the ice the best the team can hope for is a whistle as the puck isnt getting out by his hand

Any eye test tells you he is not an NHL d-man on a team with any depth.

All while playing the easiest minutes on the team.

I know you love to lay blame at the feet of skilled players and try to defend plugs but this one is way out there.




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PlusOne wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 17:35

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jds308 wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 11:42

The good teams consistently beat the bottom feeders, that's where they can rack up the points to become 100+ point teams and top playoff seeds. Are the Oilers a good team yet? LA has no business beating the Oilers tonight which is probably why it feels like guaranteed loss night for the Oil. I think I have DODPTSD.
(Decade of Darkness post-traumatic stress disorder)

Until we make the playoffs I don’t think it can be considered “post” trauma. Things could go sideways in about 4 games (or one injury).


That's a fair point, the trauma is current and ongoing. I don't have a clever acronym for that, I only know that my relationship with the Oilers has been bordering on emotionally abusive for some time now. I'm really trying to enjoy the ride so far this year.


Larsson/Russell is apparently a pairing tonight...so that might be traumatic to watch all on its own...That hasn't been the best when they've been paired before.

Larsson couldn't possibly be worse than Manning, I hope....


Excellent point. It's shocking that we're this far in to the season and Manning is still on the roster.

I can't stand Manning either but I would be curious to know how much of having Manning on the roster had to do with a plan to keep Jones down as long as they could?

A lot of people had Jones as an automatic on the Oilers, yet he wasn't that great in camp and was sent down. I heard an interview with him when he was called up and he said he took the demotion hard, took him a little bit to get over it. Then before the call up he was the best dman by a mile down there and was playing excellent and had been for most of the season. I think Manning is borderline useless and he's played more than I ever expected but even playing him in 9 games, the Oilers are first in their division, tied for first in the West and if giving Jones a month and a half to figure his game out and do that last bit of developing that he needed, it maybe paid off. It's only been 3 games so far but he's been pretty rock solid so far.

If he can keep it going and be anything close to Bear, it might open some options sooner rather than later to unload a dman for some forward help. I don't think you can get rid of a bigger contract mid season but what about a Benning? If Jones keeps going and makes it so you can't take him out, could you package Bennings who's a pretty solid right shot, 3rd pairing guy who doesn't make much for that 3rd line center they could use?


2 goals. Manning has been on the ice for 2 goals against (and 1 goal for) in 9 games. He hasn't been bad. I know I've said this at least 3 times, but nobody will listen.


He is also the;
- worst on the team in give aways per 60
- worst on the team in zone exits

When he is on the ice the best the team can hope for is a whistle as the puck isnt getting out by his hand

Any eye test tells you he is not an NHL d-man on a team with any depth.

All while playing the easiest minutes on the team.

I know you love to lay blame at the feet of skilled players and try to defend plugs but this one is way out there.




And when does he actually play? He gets ~10 mins a game. And Tippett has to constantly try to find situations of weak competition to get him out there in that tiny bit of ice time so he can finally let his other D rest. It's nothing but a pain having a player like Manning in your lineup. Having one of your D that you're scared to play against anything but 4th liners. Forces other D to have to put in a 25+ min night because it can be hard to find the right situations to play the sheltered guy.

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RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 17:26


I can't stand Manning either but I would be curious to know how much of having Manning on the roster had to do with a plan to keep Jones down as long as they could?




This 100%.

Manning and will never be more than a placeholder. He is there because there was no one better that fit the plan.
I bet given the exact same minutes most of Bakersfield would be doing at least as good and in the case of a few guys, much better, than Manning.



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jds308 wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 12:31

CrudeRemarks wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 11:22

jds308 wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 11:42

The good teams consistently beat the bottom feeders, that's where they can rack up the points to become 100+ point teams and top playoff seeds. Are the Oilers a good team yet? LA has no business beating the Oilers tonight which is probably why it feels like guaranteed loss night for the Oil. I think I have DODPTSD.
(Decade of Darkness post-traumatic stress disorder)

Until we make the playoffs I don’t think it can be considered “post” trauma. Things could go sideways in about 4 games (or one injury).


That's a fair point, the trauma is current and ongoing. I don't have a clever acronym for that, I only know that my relationship with the Oilers has been bordering on emotionally abusive for some time now. I'm really trying to enjoy the ride so far this year.


It seems like the hoi poloi are reluctant to jump on the Oiler bandwagon or sell out the building every game, and that’s understandable. Not negativity, just a little cynicism before the Oilers prove themselves a little more.

Klefbom had the most ice time in the San Jose game for any Oilers defenceman since
Chris Pronger. Matt Benning is in concussion protocol and so he will be out for a while. With Adam Larsson expected back after an injury and long recovery period I’m sure the Kings will try to pressure the Oiler D into making mistakes.Don't get fooled or trapped boys.




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I'm not even up there buying tickets, Tier III fan and all, and I'm still super skeptical. Hopeful, but skeptical.
It would be very Oiler-ish to set some kind of reverse 18/19 St Louis Blues record of being in first place, then nosediving into the comfortable and well-known confines of a lottery pick.
I still want to be enjoying hockey come April.



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Suomalainen wrote on Thu, 21 November 2019 18:39

I'm not even up there buying tickets, Tier III fan and all, and I'm still super skeptical. Hopeful, but skeptical.
It would be very Oiler-ish to set some kind of reverse 18/19 St Louis Blues record of being in first place, then nosediving into the comfortable and well-known confines of a lottery pick.
I still want to be enjoying hockey come April.

The usual saying is "Once bitten, twice shy.", but in the case of this hockey team it's more like "12 times bitten, 24 times shy.". The most skeptical of us likely won't be convinced until the moment we see Connor holding the Cup over his head, and even then we'd first be checking that we hadn't ingested some really powerful and likely toxic hallucinogen first....



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