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Oilers Seasons Seat Holder Reception - These sessions are happening this week. I'll summarize for the session I go to and the questions asked (if they allow it). Hoping others attending will provide feedback as well.
Would be nice for someone to question Bob Nicholson and see why he is qualified to hire someone now based on his past and lack of hiring process.



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McDavid97 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 10:47

Oilers Seasons Seat Holder Reception - These sessions are happening this week. I'll summarize for the session I go to and the questions asked (if they allow it). Hoping others attending will provide feedback as well.
Would be nice for someone to question Bob Nicholson and see why he is qualified to hire someone now based on his past and lack of hiring process.


Thanks in advance for reviews of this. Hope someone asks if a new POHO/GM has permission to fire anyone under the hockey ops umbrella if they feel it's for the betterment of the team. And for him to specify what he means by the "culture" the next guys need to fit in with, and if there is really any culture in the management team worth keeping after over a decade of failure.



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McDavid97 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 10:47

Oilers Seasons Seat Holder Reception - These sessions are happening this week. I'll summarize for the session I go to and the questions asked (if they allow it). Hoping others attending will provide feedback as well.
Would be nice for someone to question Bob Nicholson and see why he is qualified to hire someone now based on his past and lack of hiring process.

Please pass along my vote for Keith as the most relatedable candidate.



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McDavid97 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 10:47

Oilers Seasons Seat Holder Reception - These sessions are happening this week. I'll summarize for the session I go to and the questions asked (if they allow it). Hoping others attending will provide feedback as well.
Would be nice for someone to question Bob Nicholson and see why he is qualified to hire someone now based on his past and lack of hiring process.

Well if you think someone needs to walk up to Nicholson and ask him to his face if he knows how to do his job. Why don't you do that since you are going?



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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 11:37

McDavid97 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 10:47

Oilers Seasons Seat Holder Reception - These sessions are happening this week. I'll summarize for the session I go to and the questions asked (if they allow it). Hoping others attending will provide feedback as well.
Would be nice for someone to question Bob Nicholson and see why he is qualified to hire someone now based on his past and lack of hiring process.

Well if you think someone needs to walk up to Nicholson and ask him to his face if he knows how to do his job. Why don't you do that since you are going?


If I get the chance I will be. But that's not how these normally work, looking at your comment you wouldn't know.
They don't just have Bob mingling about. They will bring him out, they (presenters, this year is Bob) will give you a speech for 15-30 minutes then let you ask 3-5 questions and it's over. In a previous year they took questions ahead of time and pre-screened questions.

But ya if that only worked that way. So naive RD.



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McDavid97 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 12:01

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 11:37

McDavid97 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 10:47

Oilers Seasons Seat Holder Reception - These sessions are happening this week. I'll summarize for the session I go to and the questions asked (if they allow it). Hoping others attending will provide feedback as well.
Would be nice for someone to question Bob Nicholson and see why he is qualified to hire someone now based on his past and lack of hiring process.

Well if you think someone needs to walk up to Nicholson and ask him to his face if he knows how to do his job. Why don't you do that since you are going?


If I get the chance I will be. But that's not how these normally work, looking at your comment you wouldn't know.
They don't just have Bob mingling about. They will bring him out, they (presenters, this year is Bob) will give you a speech for 15-30 minutes then let you ask 3-5 questions and it's over. In a previous year they took questions ahead of time and pre-screened questions.

But ya if that only worked that way. So naive RD.


Why would you muse about the question knowing they're vetted and no one would get an opportunity to ask? Seems to me no one should have an interest in the summary. Good condescension from a Tier One as well.
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McDavid97 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 12:01

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 11:37

McDavid97 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 10:47

Oilers Seasons Seat Holder Reception - These sessions are happening this week. I'll summarize for the session I go to and the questions asked (if they allow it). Hoping others attending will provide feedback as well.
Would be nice for someone to question Bob Nicholson and see why he is qualified to hire someone now based on his past and lack of hiring process.

Well if you think someone needs to walk up to Nicholson and ask him to his face if he knows how to do his job. Why don't you do that since you are going?


If I get the chance I will be. But that's not how these normally work, looking at your comment you wouldn't know.
They don't just have Bob mingling about. They will bring him out, they (presenters, this year is Bob) will give you a speech for 15-30 minutes then let you ask 3-5 questions and it's over. In a previous year they took questions ahead of time and pre-screened questions.

But ya if that only worked that way. So naive RD.


I've seen people claim that they were asked to not attend future events after being too critical (back around the start of the Hall rebuild). No idea if true, but that would align with Oilers culture.

If I was a part of Oilers culture, for sure, pre-screened questions would be the way I would go now.



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"Next year (15/16) I would forecast as another developmental year"
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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 12:39

McDavid97 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 12:01

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 11:37

McDavid97 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 10:47

Oilers Seasons Seat Holder Reception - These sessions are happening this week. I'll summarize for the session I go to and the questions asked (if they allow it). Hoping others attending will provide feedback as well.
Would be nice for someone to question Bob Nicholson and see why he is qualified to hire someone now based on his past and lack of hiring process.

Well if you think someone needs to walk up to Nicholson and ask him to his face if he knows how to do his job. Why don't you do that since you are going?


If I get the chance I will be. But that's not how these normally work, looking at your comment you wouldn't know.
They don't just have Bob mingling about. They will bring him out, they (presenters, this year is Bob) will give you a speech for 15-30 minutes then let you ask 3-5 questions and it's over. In a previous year they took questions ahead of time and pre-screened questions.

But ya if that only worked that way. So naive RD.


I've seen people claim that they were asked to not attend future events after being too critical (back around the start of the Hall rebuild). No idea if true, but that would align with Oilers culture.

If I was a part of Oilers culture, for sure, pre-screened questions would be the way I would go now.


I'm thinking it's either:
1) no questions
2) live questions

Only because they didn't ask for questions ahead of time this year. But we will see.



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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 12:39

McDavid97 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 12:01

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 11:37

McDavid97 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 10:47

Oilers Seasons Seat Holder Reception - These sessions are happening this week. I'll summarize for the session I go to and the questions asked (if they allow it). Hoping others attending will provide feedback as well.
Would be nice for someone to question Bob Nicholson and see why he is qualified to hire someone now based on his past and lack of hiring process.

Well if you think someone needs to walk up to Nicholson and ask him to his face if he knows how to do his job. Why don't you do that since you are going?


If I get the chance I will be. But that's not how these normally work, looking at your comment you wouldn't know.
They don't just have Bob mingling about. They will bring him out, they (presenters, this year is Bob) will give you a speech for 15-30 minutes then let you ask 3-5 questions and it's over. In a previous year they took questions ahead of time and pre-screened questions.

But ya if that only worked that way. So naive RD.


I've seen people claim that they were asked to not attend future events after being too critical (back around the start of the Hall rebuild). No idea if true, but that would align with Oilers culture.

If I was a part of Oilers culture, for sure, pre-screened questions would be the way I would go now.



I think what it was was that a few people got unruly and just did not behave themselves in a way most business would expect. Someone told me at one lunch a few people tried to get a fire Pete C chant going. Season ticket holders pay a lot of money and I think the team expects them to act like adults at this meetings



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steve.kreys wrote on Wed, 20 March 2019 09:03

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 12:39

McDavid97 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 12:01

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 11:37

McDavid97 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 10:47

Oilers Seasons Seat Holder Reception - These sessions are happening this week. I'll summarize for the session I go to and the questions asked (if they allow it). Hoping others attending will provide feedback as well.
Would be nice for someone to question Bob Nicholson and see why he is qualified to hire someone now based on his past and lack of hiring process.

Well if you think someone needs to walk up to Nicholson and ask him to his face if he knows how to do his job. Why don't you do that since you are going?


If I get the chance I will be. But that's not how these normally work, looking at your comment you wouldn't know.
They don't just have Bob mingling about. They will bring him out, they (presenters, this year is Bob) will give you a speech for 15-30 minutes then let you ask 3-5 questions and it's over. In a previous year they took questions ahead of time and pre-screened questions.

But ya if that only worked that way. So naive RD.


I've seen people claim that they were asked to not attend future events after being too critical (back around the start of the Hall rebuild). No idea if true, but that would align with Oilers culture.

If I was a part of Oilers culture, for sure, pre-screened questions would be the way I would go now.



I think what it was was that a few people got unruly and just did not behave themselves in a way most business would expect. Someone told me at one lunch a few people tried to get a fire Pete C chant going. Season ticket holders pay a lot of money and I think the team expects them to act like adults at this meetings


If that was indeed from back when Lowe became POHO, it's sad how ahead of the curve those loud rowdy guys were :)



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McDavid97 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 12:01

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 11:37

McDavid97 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 10:47

Oilers Seasons Seat Holder Reception - These sessions are happening this week. I'll summarize for the session I go to and the questions asked (if they allow it). Hoping others attending will provide feedback as well.
Would be nice for someone to question Bob Nicholson and see why he is qualified to hire someone now based on his past and lack of hiring process.

Well if you think someone needs to walk up to Nicholson and ask him to his face if he knows how to do his job. Why don't you do that since you are going?


If I get the chance I will be. But that's not how these normally work, looking at your comment you wouldn't know.
They don't just have Bob mingling about. They will bring him out, they (presenters, this year is Bob) will give you a speech for 15-30 minutes then let you ask 3-5 questions and it's over. In a previous year they took questions ahead of time and pre-screened questions.

But ya if that only worked that way. So naive RD.


You are right, I do not know. I do not have seasons tickets so I don't get to go to those events. Not because I can't afford them because I could, it's because I live in Red Deer and driving up for 41 + games a year on mostly winter roads isn't something I want to do nor do I want the hassle of having to get rid of a whole wack of tickets when I can't use them. I go to my 8-10 games a year and that's enough for me.

That being said, I am not naive enough to believe that ANY business worth 100's of millions of dollars is going to allow customers the chance to rip into their execs. If they did that, for every 1 guy who asks a well thought out, constructive question, there is going to be 3 or 4 who go on a expletive filled rant about you name it.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 12:41

McDavid97 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 12:01

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 11:37

McDavid97 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 10:47

Oilers Seasons Seat Holder Reception - These sessions are happening this week. I'll summarize for the session I go to and the questions asked (if they allow it). Hoping others attending will provide feedback as well.
Would be nice for someone to question Bob Nicholson and see why he is qualified to hire someone now based on his past and lack of hiring process.

Well if you think someone needs to walk up to Nicholson and ask him to his face if he knows how to do his job. Why don't you do that since you are going?


If I get the chance I will be. But that's not how these normally work, looking at your comment you wouldn't know.
They don't just have Bob mingling about. They will bring him out, they (presenters, this year is Bob) will give you a speech for 15-30 minutes then let you ask 3-5 questions and it's over. In a previous year they took questions ahead of time and pre-screened questions.

But ya if that only worked that way. So naive RD.


You are right, I do not know. I do not have seasons tickets so I don't get to go to those events. Not because I can't afford them because I could, it's because I live in Red Deer and driving up for 41 + games a year on mostly winter roads isn't something I want to do nor do I want the hassle of having to get rid of a whole wack of tickets when I can't use them. I go to my 8-10 games a year and that's enough for me.

That being said, I am not naive enough to believe that ANY business worth 100's of millions of dollars is going to allow customers the chance to rip into their execs. If they did that, for every 1 guy who asks a well thought out, constructive question, there is going to be 3 or 4 who go on a expletive filled rant about you name it.

Most $100 million corporations would make changes at the top after a decade of suck though.



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CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 12:52

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 12:41

McDavid97 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 12:01

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 11:37

McDavid97 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 10:47

Oilers Seasons Seat Holder Reception - These sessions are happening this week. I'll summarize for the session I go to and the questions asked (if they allow it). Hoping others attending will provide feedback as well.
Would be nice for someone to question Bob Nicholson and see why he is qualified to hire someone now based on his past and lack of hiring process.

Well if you think someone needs to walk up to Nicholson and ask him to his face if he knows how to do his job. Why don't you do that since you are going?


If I get the chance I will be. But that's not how these normally work, looking at your comment you wouldn't know.
They don't just have Bob mingling about. They will bring him out, they (presenters, this year is Bob) will give you a speech for 15-30 minutes then let you ask 3-5 questions and it's over. In a previous year they took questions ahead of time and pre-screened questions.

But ya if that only worked that way. So naive RD.


You are right, I do not know. I do not have seasons tickets so I don't get to go to those events. Not because I can't afford them because I could, it's because I live in Red Deer and driving up for 41 + games a year on mostly winter roads isn't something I want to do nor do I want the hassle of having to get rid of a whole wack of tickets when I can't use them. I go to my 8-10 games a year and that's enough for me.

That being said, I am not naive enough to believe that ANY business worth 100's of millions of dollars is going to allow customers the chance to rip into their execs. If they did that, for every 1 guy who asks a well thought out, constructive question, there is going to be 3 or 4 who go on a expletive filled rant about you name it.

Most $100 million corporations would make changes at the top after a decade of suck though.

You are right there. Hopefully they are coming.



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Depends on how you define decade of suck. From Katz's point of view the last decade has made him billions of dollars, with more to come. From a hockey executive position, they can do what they want with no accountability, while being paid.
So from that perspective the last decade has been anything but bad, full on great if we were in their shoes, especially Katz.
Think that is part of the issue here, we have different expectations. I think this next year, with luxury renewals dropping off, I am speculating, along with high season ticket turnover, we will get Katz's attention. But honestly if he loses 20 million a year on hockey operations due to poor attendance, but his net worth climbs another billion over the next 5 years boom
IMO this is the issue we as fans face with this current management/ ownership group.

Fight conflict of interests



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Iamheretoday wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 14:04

Depends on how you define decade of suck. From Katz's point of view the last decade has made him billions of dollars, with more to come. From a hockey executive position, they can do what they want with no accountability, while being paid.
So from that perspective the last decade has been anything but bad, full on great if we were in their shoes, especially Katz.
Think that is part of the issue here, we have different expectations. I think this next year, with luxury renewals dropping off, I am speculating, along with high season ticket turnover, we will get Katz's attention. But honestly if he loses 20 million a year on hockey operations due to poor attendance, but his net worth climbs another billion over the next 5 years boom
IMO this is the issue we as fans face with this current management/ ownership group.

Fight conflict of interests

So your position is that Katz is a greedy businessman who only cares about the bottom line. I believe he’s rich enough that the dollars and cents don’t matter. He bought the team he loved in the 80’s and he now has Sunday dinners with people he idolized back then. He cares more about those relationships than he does about winning and, I believe, more than making money (off the Oilers).



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I have no foundation to disagree with your point. Unfortunately it does not matter which of us is correct, either way winning is not the benchmark for success. So the fans are the losers in which ever scenario is correct.


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Iamheretoday wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 20:31

I have no foundation to disagree with your point. Unfortunately it does not matter which of us is correct, either way winning is not the benchmark for success. So the fans are the losers in which ever scenario is correct.

Agreed! Therefore let’s make Keith Gretzky the GM because nothing matters anyways and it’s kind of funny



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Well we could start winefans instead and discuss red versus white. After a year or so we would be ready for management positions Wave Towel


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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 12:41

McDavid97 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 12:01

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 11:37

McDavid97 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 10:47

Oilers Seasons Seat Holder Reception - These sessions are happening this week. I'll summarize for the session I go to and the questions asked (if they allow it). Hoping others attending will provide feedback as well.
Would be nice for someone to question Bob Nicholson and see why he is qualified to hire someone now based on his past and lack of hiring process.

Well if you think someone needs to walk up to Nicholson and ask him to his face if he knows how to do his job. Why don't you do that since you are going?


If I get the chance I will be. But that's not how these normally work, looking at your comment you wouldn't know.
They don't just have Bob mingling about. They will bring him out, they (presenters, this year is Bob) will give you a speech for 15-30 minutes then let you ask 3-5 questions and it's over. In a previous year they took questions ahead of time and pre-screened questions.

But ya if that only worked that way. So naive RD.


You are right, I do not know. I do not have seasons tickets so I don't get to go to those events. Not because I can't afford them because I could, it's because I live in Red Deer and driving up for 41 + games a year on mostly winter roads isn't something I want to do nor do I want the hassle of having to get rid of a whole wack of tickets when I can't use them. I go to my 8-10 games a year and that's enough for me.

That being said, I am not naive enough to believe that ANY business worth 100's of millions of dollars is going to allow customers the chance to rip into their execs. If they did that, for every 1 guy who asks a well thought out, constructive question, there is going to be 3 or 4 who go on a expletive filled rant about you name it.

Really? Then why did you try to call him out with your jizz bag comment?

And please. Keep it to a couple sentences. I’m not interested in how many games you try to go to even though you could afford them all, the highways etc.



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g2k wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 22:38

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 12:41

McDavid97 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 12:01

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 11:37

McDavid97 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 10:47

Oilers Seasons Seat Holder Reception - These sessions are happening this week. I'll summarize for the session I go to and the questions asked (if they allow it). Hoping others attending will provide feedback as well.
Would be nice for someone to question Bob Nicholson and see why he is qualified to hire someone now based on his past and lack of hiring process.

Well if you think someone needs to walk up to Nicholson and ask him to his face if he knows how to do his job. Why don't you do that since you are going?


If I get the chance I will be. But that's not how these normally work, looking at your comment you wouldn't know.
They don't just have Bob mingling about. They will bring him out, they (presenters, this year is Bob) will give you a speech for 15-30 minutes then let you ask 3-5 questions and it's over. In a previous year they took questions ahead of time and pre-screened questions.

But ya if that only worked that way. So naive RD.


You are right, I do not know. I do not have seasons tickets so I don't get to go to those events. Not because I can't afford them because I could, it's because I live in Red Deer and driving up for 41 + games a year on mostly winter roads isn't something I want to do nor do I want the hassle of having to get rid of a whole wack of tickets when I can't use them. I go to my 8-10 games a year and that's enough for me.

That being said, I am not naive enough to believe that ANY business worth 100's of millions of dollars is going to allow customers the chance to rip into their execs. If they did that, for every 1 guy who asks a well thought out, constructive question, there is going to be 3 or 4 who go on a expletive filled rant about you name it.

Really? Then why did you try to call him out with your jizz bag comment?

And please. Keep it to a couple sentences. I’m not interested in how many games you try to go to even though you could afford them all, the highways etc.

Thanks for your reply, have a great day.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 12:41

McDavid97 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 12:01

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 11:37

McDavid97 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 10:47

Oilers Seasons Seat Holder Reception - These sessions are happening this week. I'll summarize for the session I go to and the questions asked (if they allow it). Hoping others attending will provide feedback as well.
Would be nice for someone to question Bob Nicholson and see why he is qualified to hire someone now based on his past and lack of hiring process.

Well if you think someone needs to walk up to Nicholson and ask him to his face if he knows how to do his job. Why don't you do that since you are going?


If I get the chance I will be. But that's not how these normally work, looking at your comment you wouldn't know.
They don't just have Bob mingling about. They will bring him out, they (presenters, this year is Bob) will give you a speech for 15-30 minutes then let you ask 3-5 questions and it's over. In a previous year they took questions ahead of time and pre-screened questions.

But ya if that only worked that way. So naive RD.


You are right, I do not know. I do not have seasons tickets so I don't get to go to those events. Not because I can't afford them because I could, it's because I live in Red Deer and driving up for 41 + games a year on mostly winter roads isn't something I want to do nor do I want the hassle of having to get rid of a whole wack of tickets when I can't use them. I go to my 8-10 games a year and that's enough for me.

That being said, I am not naive enough to believe that ANY business worth 100's of millions of dollars is going to allow customers the chance to rip into their execs. If they did that, for every 1 guy who asks a well thought out, constructive question, there is going to be 3 or 4 who go on a expletive filled rant about you name it.

Really? Then why did you try to call him out with your jizz bag comment?

And please. Keep it to a couple sentences. I’m not interested in how many games you try to go to even though you could afford them all, the highways etc.

Thanks for your reply, have a great day.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 12:41

McDavid97 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 12:01

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 11:37

McDavid97 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 10:47

Oilers Seasons Seat Holder Reception - These sessions are happening this week. I'll summarize for the session I go to and the questions asked (if they allow it). Hoping others attending will provide feedback as well.
Would be nice for someone to question Bob Nicholson and see why he is qualified to hire someone now based on his past and lack of hiring process.

Well if you think someone needs to walk up to Nicholson and ask him to his face if he knows how to do his job. Why don't you do that since you are going?


If I get the chance I will be. But that's not how these normally work, looking at your comment you wouldn't know.
They don't just have Bob mingling about. They will bring him out, they (presenters, this year is Bob) will give you a speech for 15-30 minutes then let you ask 3-5 questions and it's over. In a previous year they took questions ahead of time and pre-screened questions.

But ya if that only worked that way. So naive RD.


You are right, I do not know. I do not have seasons tickets so I don't get to go to those events. Not because I can't afford them because I could, it's because I live in Red Deer and driving up for 41 + games a year on mostly winter roads isn't something I want to do nor do I want the hassle of having to get rid of a whole wack of tickets when I can't use them. I go to my 8-10 games a year and that's enough for me.

That being said, I am not naive enough to believe that ANY business worth 100's of millions of dollars is going to allow customers the chance to rip into their execs. If they did that, for every 1 guy who asks a well thought out, constructive question, there is going to be 3 or 4 who go on a expletive filled rant about you name it.


They do it after every game in the press conference.



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Magnum wrote on Tue, 19 March 2019 09:01

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 12:41

McDavid97 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 12:01

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 11:37

McDavid97 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 10:47

Oilers Seasons Seat Holder Reception - These sessions are happening this week. I'll summarize for the session I go to and the questions asked (if they allow it). Hoping others attending will provide feedback as well.
Would be nice for someone to question Bob Nicholson and see why he is qualified to hire someone now based on his past and lack of hiring process.

Well if you think someone needs to walk up to Nicholson and ask him to his face if he knows how to do his job. Why don't you do that since you are going?


If I get the chance I will be. But that's not how these normally work, looking at your comment you wouldn't know.
They don't just have Bob mingling about. They will bring him out, they (presenters, this year is Bob) will give you a speech for 15-30 minutes then let you ask 3-5 questions and it's over. In a previous year they took questions ahead of time and pre-screened questions.

But ya if that only worked that way. So naive RD.


You are right, I do not know. I do not have seasons tickets so I don't get to go to those events. Not because I can't afford them because I could, it's because I live in Red Deer and driving up for 41 + games a year on mostly winter roads isn't something I want to do nor do I want the hassle of having to get rid of a whole wack of tickets when I can't use them. I go to my 8-10 games a year and that's enough for me.

That being said, I am not naive enough to believe that ANY business worth 100's of millions of dollars is going to allow customers the chance to rip into their execs. If they did that, for every 1 guy who asks a well thought out, constructive question, there is going to be 3 or 4 who go on a expletive filled rant about you name it.


They do it after every game in the press conference.

Imagine the Oilers were a publicly traded company and held an annual general meeting for shareholders.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 19 March 2019 09:19

Magnum wrote on Tue, 19 March 2019 09:01

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 12:41

McDavid97 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 12:01

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 11:37

McDavid97 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 10:47

Oilers Seasons Seat Holder Reception - These sessions are happening this week. I'll summarize for the session I go to and the questions asked (if they allow it). Hoping others attending will provide feedback as well.
Would be nice for someone to question Bob Nicholson and see why he is qualified to hire someone now based on his past and lack of hiring process.

Well if you think someone needs to walk up to Nicholson and ask him to his face if he knows how to do his job. Why don't you do that since you are going?


If I get the chance I will be. But that's not how these normally work, looking at your comment you wouldn't know.
They don't just have Bob mingling about. They will bring him out, they (presenters, this year is Bob) will give you a speech for 15-30 minutes then let you ask 3-5 questions and it's over. In a previous year they took questions ahead of time and pre-screened questions.

But ya if that only worked that way. So naive RD.


You are right, I do not know. I do not have seasons tickets so I don't get to go to those events. Not because I can't afford them because I could, it's because I live in Red Deer and driving up for 41 + games a year on mostly winter roads isn't something I want to do nor do I want the hassle of having to get rid of a whole wack of tickets when I can't use them. I go to my 8-10 games a year and that's enough for me.

That being said, I am not naive enough to believe that ANY business worth 100's of millions of dollars is going to allow customers the chance to rip into their execs. If they did that, for every 1 guy who asks a well thought out, constructive question, there is going to be 3 or 4 who go on a expletive filled rant about you name it.


They do it after every game in the press conference.

Imagine the Oilers were a publicly traded company and held an annual general meeting for shareholders.



Would you buy shares? Would a share allow you a vote on trades? Would it allow you a say on free agents? On contract extensions for goalies with an absolutely terrible glove?



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Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 19 March 2019 09:51

CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 19 March 2019 09:19

Magnum wrote on Tue, 19 March 2019 09:01

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 12:41

McDavid97 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 12:01

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 11:37

McDavid97 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 10:47

Oilers Seasons Seat Holder Reception - These sessions are happening this week. I'll summarize for the session I go to and the questions asked (if they allow it). Hoping others attending will provide feedback as well.
Would be nice for someone to question Bob Nicholson and see why he is qualified to hire someone now based on his past and lack of hiring process.

Well if you think someone needs to walk up to Nicholson and ask him to his face if he knows how to do his job. Why don't you do that since you are going?


If I get the chance I will be. But that's not how these normally work, looking at your comment you wouldn't know.
They don't just have Bob mingling about. They will bring him out, they (presenters, this year is Bob) will give you a speech for 15-30 minutes then let you ask 3-5 questions and it's over. In a previous year they took questions ahead of time and pre-screened questions.

But ya if that only worked that way. So naive RD.


You are right, I do not know. I do not have seasons tickets so I don't get to go to those events. Not because I can't afford them because I could, it's because I live in Red Deer and driving up for 41 + games a year on mostly winter roads isn't something I want to do nor do I want the hassle of having to get rid of a whole wack of tickets when I can't use them. I go to my 8-10 games a year and that's enough for me.

That being said, I am not naive enough to believe that ANY business worth 100's of millions of dollars is going to allow customers the chance to rip into their execs. If they did that, for every 1 guy who asks a well thought out, constructive question, there is going to be 3 or 4 who go on a expletive filled rant about you name it.


They do it after every game in the press conference.

Imagine the Oilers were a publicly traded company and held an annual general meeting for shareholders.



Would you buy shares? Would a share allow you a vote on trades? Would it allow you a say on free agents? On contract extensions for goalies with an absolutely terrible glove?

I would buy Oilers shares. No because of any love or emotion for the company but because their financials have under-performed for so long they have huge growth potential.

Oilers shareholders would, in my world, have the same function as shareholders in the real world. Hammering dividend cheques and voting for or against the board. I'd vote my shares against the board.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 19 March 2019 10:18

Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 19 March 2019 09:51

CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 19 March 2019 09:19

Magnum wrote on Tue, 19 March 2019 09:01

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 12:41

McDavid97 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 12:01

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 11:37

McDavid97 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 10:47

Oilers Seasons Seat Holder Reception - These sessions are happening this week. I'll summarize for the session I go to and the questions asked (if they allow it). Hoping others attending will provide feedback as well.
Would be nice for someone to question Bob Nicholson and see why he is qualified to hire someone now based on his past and lack of hiring process.

Well if you think someone needs to walk up to Nicholson and ask him to his face if he knows how to do his job. Why don't you do that since you are going?


If I get the chance I will be. But that's not how these normally work, looking at your comment you wouldn't know.
They don't just have Bob mingling about. They will bring him out, they (presenters, this year is Bob) will give you a speech for 15-30 minutes then let you ask 3-5 questions and it's over. In a previous year they took questions ahead of time and pre-screened questions.

But ya if that only worked that way. So naive RD.


You are right, I do not know. I do not have seasons tickets so I don't get to go to those events. Not because I can't afford them because I could, it's because I live in Red Deer and driving up for 41 + games a year on mostly winter roads isn't something I want to do nor do I want the hassle of having to get rid of a whole wack of tickets when I can't use them. I go to my 8-10 games a year and that's enough for me.

That being said, I am not naive enough to believe that ANY business worth 100's of millions of dollars is going to allow customers the chance to rip into their execs. If they did that, for every 1 guy who asks a well thought out, constructive question, there is going to be 3 or 4 who go on a expletive filled rant about you name it.


They do it after every game in the press conference.

Imagine the Oilers were a publicly traded company and held an annual general meeting for shareholders.



Would you buy shares? Would a share allow you a vote on trades? Would it allow you a say on free agents? On contract extensions for goalies with an absolutely terrible glove?

I would buy Oilers shares. No because of any love or emotion for the company but because their financials have under-performed for so long they have huge growth potential.

Oilers shareholders would, in my world, have the same function as shareholders in the real world. Hammering dividend cheques and voting for or against the board. I'd vote my shares against the board.

I would buy shares in the Oilers because as you said, they would probably be undervalued right now given the teams lack of success. The City EXPLODED when they made the playoffs once. When they start making it on a regular basis, the value of those shares will go up big time.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 19 March 2019 10:22

CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 19 March 2019 10:18

Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 19 March 2019 09:51

CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 19 March 2019 09:19

Magnum wrote on Tue, 19 March 2019 09:01

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 12:41

McDavid97 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 12:01

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 11:37

McDavid97 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 10:47

Oilers Seasons Seat Holder Reception - These sessions are happening this week. I'll summarize for the session I go to and the questions asked (if they allow it). Hoping others attending will provide feedback as well.
Would be nice for someone to question Bob Nicholson and see why he is qualified to hire someone now based on his past and lack of hiring process.

Well if you think someone needs to walk up to Nicholson and ask him to his face if he knows how to do his job. Why don't you do that since you are going?


If I get the chance I will be. But that's not how these normally work, looking at your comment you wouldn't know.
They don't just have Bob mingling about. They will bring him out, they (presenters, this year is Bob) will give you a speech for 15-30 minutes then let you ask 3-5 questions and it's over. In a previous year they took questions ahead of time and pre-screened questions.

But ya if that only worked that way. So naive RD.


You are right, I do not know. I do not have seasons tickets so I don't get to go to those events. Not because I can't afford them because I could, it's because I live in Red Deer and driving up for 41 + games a year on mostly winter roads isn't something I want to do nor do I want the hassle of having to get rid of a whole wack of tickets when I can't use them. I go to my 8-10 games a year and that's enough for me.

That being said, I am not naive enough to believe that ANY business worth 100's of millions of dollars is going to allow customers the chance to rip into their execs. If they did that, for every 1 guy who asks a well thought out, constructive question, there is going to be 3 or 4 who go on a expletive filled rant about you name it.


They do it after every game in the press conference.

Imagine the Oilers were a publicly traded company and held an annual general meeting for shareholders.



Would you buy shares? Would a share allow you a vote on trades? Would it allow you a say on free agents? On contract extensions for goalies with an absolutely terrible glove?

I would buy Oilers shares. No because of any love or emotion for the company but because their financials have under-performed for so long they have huge growth potential.

Oilers shareholders would, in my world, have the same function as shareholders in the real world. Hammering dividend cheques and voting for or against the board. I'd vote my shares against the board.

I would buy shares in the Oilers because as you said, they would probably be undervalued right now given the teams lack of success. The City EXPLODED when they made the playoffs once. When they start making it on a regular basis, the value of those shares will go up big time.


That's not how it works.



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Magnum wrote on Tue, 19 March 2019 10:27

RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 19 March 2019 10:22

CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 19 March 2019 10:18

Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 19 March 2019 09:51

CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 19 March 2019 09:19

Magnum wrote on Tue, 19 March 2019 09:01

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 12:41

McDavid97 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 12:01

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 11:37

McDavid97 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 10:47

Oilers Seasons Seat Holder Reception - These sessions are happening this week. I'll summarize for the session I go to and the questions asked (if they allow it). Hoping others attending will provide feedback as well.
Would be nice for someone to question Bob Nicholson and see why he is qualified to hire someone now based on his past and lack of hiring process.

Well if you think someone needs to walk up to Nicholson and ask him to his face if he knows how to do his job. Why don't you do that since you are going?


If I get the chance I will be. But that's not how these normally work, looking at your comment you wouldn't know.
They don't just have Bob mingling about. They will bring him out, they (presenters, this year is Bob) will give you a speech for 15-30 minutes then let you ask 3-5 questions and it's over. In a previous year they took questions ahead of time and pre-screened questions.

But ya if that only worked that way. So naive RD.


You are right, I do not know. I do not have seasons tickets so I don't get to go to those events. Not because I can't afford them because I could, it's because I live in Red Deer and driving up for 41 + games a year on mostly winter roads isn't something I want to do nor do I want the hassle of having to get rid of a whole wack of tickets when I can't use them. I go to my 8-10 games a year and that's enough for me.

That being said, I am not naive enough to believe that ANY business worth 100's of millions of dollars is going to allow customers the chance to rip into their execs. If they did that, for every 1 guy who asks a well thought out, constructive question, there is going to be 3 or 4 who go on a expletive filled rant about you name it.


They do it after every game in the press conference.

Imagine the Oilers were a publicly traded company and held an annual general meeting for shareholders.



Would you buy shares? Would a share allow you a vote on trades? Would it allow you a say on free agents? On contract extensions for goalies with an absolutely terrible glove?

I would buy Oilers shares. No because of any love or emotion for the company but because their financials have under-performed for so long they have huge growth potential.

Oilers shareholders would, in my world, have the same function as shareholders in the real world. Hammering dividend cheques and voting for or against the board. I'd vote my shares against the board.

I would buy shares in the Oilers because as you said, they would probably be undervalued right now given the teams lack of success. The City EXPLODED when they made the playoffs once. When they start making it on a regular basis, the value of those shares will go up big time.


That's not how it works.


Sure it does. Their earnings would go up so the shares would go up. The Oilers are an entertainment (and real estate) company. When they produce good entertainment, prices and value goes up. Like Warner Brothers or Harvey Weinstein's company. Was that publicly traded?



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CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 19 March 2019 10:31

Magnum wrote on Tue, 19 March 2019 10:27

RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 19 March 2019 10:22

CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 19 March 2019 10:18

Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 19 March 2019 09:51

CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 19 March 2019 09:19

Magnum wrote on Tue, 19 March 2019 09:01

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 12:41

McDavid97 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 12:01

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 11:37

McDavid97 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 10:47

Oilers Seasons Seat Holder Reception - These sessions are happening this week. I'll summarize for the session I go to and the questions asked (if they allow it). Hoping others attending will provide feedback as well.
Would be nice for someone to question Bob Nicholson and see why he is qualified to hire someone now based on his past and lack of hiring process.

Well if you think someone needs to walk up to Nicholson and ask him to his face if he knows how to do his job. Why don't you do that since you are going?


If I get the chance I will be. But that's not how these normally work, looking at your comment you wouldn't know.
They don't just have Bob mingling about. They will bring him out, they (presenters, this year is Bob) will give you a speech for 15-30 minutes then let you ask 3-5 questions and it's over. In a previous year they took questions ahead of time and pre-screened questions.

But ya if that only worked that way. So naive RD.


You are right, I do not know. I do not have seasons tickets so I don't get to go to those events. Not because I can't afford them because I could, it's because I live in Red Deer and driving up for 41 + games a year on mostly winter roads isn't something I want to do nor do I want the hassle of having to get rid of a whole wack of tickets when I can't use them. I go to my 8-10 games a year and that's enough for me.

That being said, I am not naive enough to believe that ANY business worth 100's of millions of dollars is going to allow customers the chance to rip into their execs. If they did that, for every 1 guy who asks a well thought out, constructive question, there is going to be 3 or 4 who go on a expletive filled rant about you name it.


They do it after every game in the press conference.

Imagine the Oilers were a publicly traded company and held an annual general meeting for shareholders.



Would you buy shares? Would a share allow you a vote on trades? Would it allow you a say on free agents? On contract extensions for goalies with an absolutely terrible glove?

I would buy Oilers shares. No because of any love or emotion for the company but because their financials have under-performed for so long they have huge growth potential.

Oilers shareholders would, in my world, have the same function as shareholders in the real world. Hammering dividend cheques and voting for or against the board. I'd vote my shares against the board.

I would buy shares in the Oilers because as you said, they would probably be undervalued right now given the teams lack of success. The City EXPLODED when they made the playoffs once. When they start making it on a regular basis, the value of those shares will go up big time.


That's not how it works.


Sure it does. Their earnings would go up so the shares would go up. The Oilers are an entertainment (and real estate) company. When they produce good entertainment, prices and value goes up. Like Warner Brothers or Harvey Weinstein's company. Was that publicly traded?

Exactly. The better the team is doing, the more the team will make. People will buy more shirts and hats and jerseys. How many of those cheaply made Orange Crush T-shirts did they sell during the playoffs? If they make the playoffs, they would get all that extra playoff money.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 19 March 2019 10:22

CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 19 March 2019 10:18

Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 19 March 2019 09:51

CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 19 March 2019 09:19

Magnum wrote on Tue, 19 March 2019 09:01

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 12:41

McDavid97 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 12:01

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 11:37

McDavid97 wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 10:47

Oilers Seasons Seat Holder Reception - These sessions are happening this week. I'll summarize for the session I go to and the questions asked (if they allow it). Hoping others attending will provide feedback as well.
Would be nice for someone to question Bob Nicholson and see why he is qualified to hire someone now based on his past and lack of hiring process.

Well if you think someone needs to walk up to Nicholson and ask him to his face if he knows how to do his job. Why don't you do that since you are going?


If I get the chance I will be. But that's not how these normally work, looking at your comment you wouldn't know.
They don't just have Bob mingling about. They will bring him out, they (presenters, this year is Bob) will give you a speech for 15-30 minutes then let you ask 3-5 questions and it's over. In a previous year they took questions ahead of time and pre-screened questions.

But ya if that only worked that way. So naive RD.


You are right, I do not know. I do not have seasons tickets so I don't get to go to those events. Not because I can't afford them because I could, it's because I live in Red Deer and driving up for 41 + games a year on mostly winter roads isn't something I want to do nor do I want the hassle of having to get rid of a whole wack of tickets when I can't use them. I go to my 8-10 games a year and that's enough for me.

That being said, I am not naive enough to believe that ANY business worth 100's of millions of dollars is going to allow customers the chance to rip into their execs. If they did that, for every 1 guy who asks a well thought out, constructive question, there is going to be 3 or 4 who go on a expletive filled rant about you name it.


They do it after every game in the press conference.

Imagine the Oilers were a publicly traded company and held an annual general meeting for shareholders.



Would you buy shares? Would a share allow you a vote on trades? Would it allow you a say on free agents? On contract extensions for goalies with an absolutely terrible glove?

I would buy Oilers shares. No because of any love or emotion for the company but because their financials have under-performed for so long they have huge growth potential.

Oilers shareholders would, in my world, have the same function as shareholders in the real world. Hammering dividend cheques and voting for or against the board. I'd vote my shares against the board.

I would buy shares in the Oilers because as you said, they would probably be undervalued right now given the teams lack of success. The City EXPLODED when they made the playoffs once. When they start making it on a regular basis, the value of those shares will go up big time.


That's not how it works.


Sure it does. Their earnings would go up so the shares would go up. The Oilers are an entertainment (and real estate) company. When they produce good entertainment, prices and value goes up. Like Warner Brothers or Harvey Weinstein's company. Was that publicly traded?

Exactly. The better the team is doing, the more the team will make. People will buy more shirts and hats and jerseys. How many of those cheaply made Orange Crush T-shirts did they sell during the playoffs? If they make the playoffs, they would get all that extra playoff money.


The team performance is not an indicator of it's value. It has the 5th highest ticket prices in the league yet the worst record. Toronto sucked for decades, but have the most profitable franchise.

Marketing, local economy, demand, business management, cost efficiency, and in game experience trump team performance in a significant way. Sure, playoffs would help, success would help, but that's only a small contribution to value (tops 16 home games + merch sales).

RDOF would rather go to an Oilers game than go to Banff, despite a 53/47 chance that the team loses and a 2/5 chance that they will not put on a good show. Banff is an international attraction, and he is not alone in that preference. So, while it helps, team success is not a determining factor of corporate success. Don't believe me? Ask Tom Renney.




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Manchester United is publicly traded (stock symbol : MANU).

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20190214005343/en/Man chester-United-plc-2019-Quarter-Results

Publicly traded or not, they haven't performed any better (so far) in general than they did as a privatlely owned entity.





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GabbyDugan wrote on Tue, 19 March 2019 10:32

Manchester United is publicly traded (stock symbol : MANU).

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20190214005343/en/Man chester-United-plc-2019-Quarter-Results

Publicly traded or not, they haven't performed any better (so far) in general than they did as a privatlely owned entity.



I'm not saying the Oilers would perform better if they were publicly traded, I'm saying I'd consider buying right now because their value would likely be depressed.

I wonder though if we could find correlation between earnings, share price, and on field performance. (I'm not looking at this, Adam is Oilfans' resident researcher.)



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CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 19 March 2019 10:35

GabbyDugan wrote on Tue, 19 March 2019 10:32

Manchester United is publicly traded (stock symbol : MANU).

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20190214005343/en/Man chester-United-plc-2019-Quarter-Results

Publicly traded or not, they haven't performed any better (so far) in general than they did as a privatlely owned entity.



I'm not saying the Oilers would perform better if they were publicly traded, I'm saying I'd consider buying right now because their value would likely be depressed.

I wonder though if we could find correlation between earnings, share price, and on field performance. (I'm not looking at this, Adam is Oilfans' resident researcher.)


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Adam wrote on Tue, 19 March 2019 20:33

CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 19 March 2019 10:35

GabbyDugan wrote on Tue, 19 March 2019 10:32

Manchester United is publicly traded (stock symbol : MANU).

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20190214005343/en/Man chester-United-plc-2019-Quarter-Results

Publicly traded or not, they haven't performed any better (so far) in general than they did as a privatlely owned entity.



I'm not saying the Oilers would perform better if they were publicly traded, I'm saying I'd consider buying right now because their value would likely be depressed.

I wonder though if we could find correlation between earnings, share price, and on field performance. (I'm not looking at this, Adam is Oilfans' resident researcher.)


Sorry, I’m on vacation this week.


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not sure why anyone is in love with the idea of Keith as Gm. He was in the room with EVERY SINGLE MOVE the last guy did. Why did he not speak up? Also, it sounds like the oilers have zero analytics in house and he was part of building the house


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steve.kreys wrote on Wed, 20 March 2019 09:06

not sure why anyone is in love with the idea of Keith as Gm. He was in the room with EVERY SINGLE MOVE the last guy did. Why did he not speak up? Also, it sounds like the oilers have zero analytics in house and he was part of building the house


I am guessing it is the "why did he not speak up?" portion of your comment that the powers that be like.
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steve.kreys wrote on Wed, 20 March 2019 08:06

not sure why anyone is in love with the idea of Keith as Gm. He was in the room with EVERY SINGLE MOVE the last guy did. Why did he not speak up? Also, it sounds like the oilers have zero analytics in house and he was part of building the house


Exactly. A lot of other guys are still in the room that were associated with those trades, and signings. Namely scouting. How does a scouting department/group decide that R. Spooner was an improvement on R. Strome.




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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 18 March 2019 12:41

Not because I can't afford them because I could, it's because I live in Red Deer and driving up for 41 + games a year on mostly winter roads isn't something I want to do

Ugh. So negative. Sounds like you aren't a true FAN!

So you have a bit of a commute!? Big deal. The Oilers need your support...Remember..This is Oil Country!! City of Champions!

Do what you have to do to make your way into that overrated dump of a building and give those well deserving execs your money! Grab an extra Bobby Nicks burger for the drive home!




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As a season ticket holder and as part of a consortium that owns those seats I don't get the privilege of attending these events. The Oilers don't know who I am or how long I've paid for my seats, they know our group, sure, but not us individually. So I miss out on events like this.

Chances are JJ would make a note of my seats and not invite me to the event because I'd be too critical. I have no problem calling these guys out. When you are bad at your job, you're bad at your job.



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I give the Oilers a lot of credit. They sure are good at timing. The team is hosting season ticket holders receptions and they go out and tank 2 games in a row. Even better is they play lousy against Vegas them follow it up by playing worse in St. Louis.


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