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 Team Canada Juniors 2018-19 [message #723994]
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Time to fire this baby up..

https://www.tsn.ca/hockey-canada-announces-wjc-selection-cam p-roster-1.1220060


Lots of guys I'm questioning.

Here is make up by League, has to be a all time low for WHL.
OHL 15
QMJHL 8
WHL 7
NCAA 3

Bizarre that Trace-Wolansky, 2nd in CHL scoring doesn't even get a freaking invite. Hockey Canada over thinking.... again.

Player Pos Height Weight Hometown Current Team NHL Draft
FORWARD
Jaret Anderson-Dolan Forward 5'11 195 Calgary, Alta. Spokane (WHL)
Shane Bowers Forward 6'2 188 Herring Cove, N.S. Boston University (HE)
Maxime Comtois Forward 6'2 211 Longueuil, Que. Drummondville (QMJHL)
Ty Dellandrea Forward 6'1 190 Port Perry, Ont. Flint (OHL)
MacKenzie Entwistle Forward 6'3 181 Georgetown, Ont. Hamilton (OHL)
Alex Formenton Forward 6'2 185 Barrie, Ont. London (OHL)
Liam Foudy Forward 6'1 182 Toronto, Ont. London (OHL)
Morgan Frost Forward 6'0 185 Aurora, Ont. Sault Ste. Marie (OHL)
Cody Glass Forward 6'2 185 Winnipeg, Man. Portland (WHL)
Barrett Hayton Forward 6'1 191 Peterborough, Ont. Sault Ste. Marie (OHL)
Alexis Lafrenière Forward 6'1 192 Saint-Eustache, Que. Rimouski (QMJHL) '20
Raphaël Lavoie Forward 6'4 198 Chambly, Que. Halifax (QMJHL)
Brett Leason Forward 6'4 199 Calgary, Alta. Prince Albert (WHL) '19
Isaac Ratcliffe Forward 6'6 204 London, Ont. Guelph (OHL)
Jack Studnicka Forward 6'2 179 Tecumseh, Ont. Oshawa (OHL)
Nick Suzuki Forward 5'11 183 London, Ont. Owen Sound (OHL)
Owen Tippett Forward 6'2 204 Peterborough, Ont. Mississauga (OHL) FLA '17 (1, 10)
Joe Veleno Forward 6'1 195 Montreal, Que. Drummondville (QMJHL)
Gabe Vilardi Forward 6'3 207 Kingston, Ont. Los Angeles (NHL) LAK '17 (1, 11)
DEFENSE
Calen Addison Defence 5'10 180 Brandon, Man. Lethbridge (WHL)
Nicolas Beaudin Defence 5'11 176 Châteauguay, Que. Drummondville (QMJHL)
Jacob Bernard-Docker Defence 6'0 185 Canmore, Alta. University of North Dakota (NCHC)
Evan Bouchard Defence 6'2 198 Oakville, Ont. London (OHL)
Josh Brook Defence 6'1 192 Roblin, Man. Moose Jaw (WHL) MTL '17 (2, 56)
Cameron Crotty Defence 6'2 188 Greely, Ont. Boston University (HE) ARI '17 (3, 82)
Noah Dobson Defence 6'3 185 Summerside, P.E.I. Acadie-Bathurst (QMJHL)
Pierre-Olivier Joseph Defence 6'2 168 Chambly, Que. Charlottetown (QMJHL)
Jared McIsaac Defence 6'1 191 Truro, N.S. Halifax (QMJHL)
Ian Mitchell Defence 5'11 175 Calahoo, Alta. University of Denver (NCHC)
Markus Phillips Defence 6'0 194 Toronto, Ont. Owen Sound (OHL)
Ty Smith Defence 5'11 177 Lloydminster, Alta. Spokane (WHL)
GOALTENDERS
Player Pos Height Weight Hometown Current Team NHL Draft
Michael DiPietro Goaltender 6'0 205 Amherstburg, Ont. Ottawa (OHL)
Ian Scott Goaltender 6'3 183 Calgary, Alta. Prince Albert (WHL) TOR '17 (4, 110)
Matthew Villalta Goaltender 6'4 186 Godfrey, Ont. Sault Ste. Marie (OHL)





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Surprised Dobson made the list. I know he went high, but guy has more minuses than games played this year. 26 GP, 15 points, -28.



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Kr55 wrote on Tue, 04 December 2018 19:22

Surprised Dobson made the list. I know he went high, but guy has more minuses than games played this year. 26 GP, 15 points, -28.



Wow.. didn't know that he is having such a horrid year.. when it came down to the Oilers draft pick of Dobson, Bouchard, or Wahlstrom ... I was actually thinking the pick was probably Dobson, because he looked so freaking good in the Memorial Cup.. glad I was wrong! Maybe the Oilers actually have a few guys that can evaluate players... amateur pick that is... :)



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Skookum Jim wrote on Tue, 04 December 2018 21:39

Kr55 wrote on Tue, 04 December 2018 19:22

Surprised Dobson made the list. I know he went high, but guy has more minuses than games played this year. 26 GP, 15 points, -28.



Wow.. didn't know that he is having such a horrid year.. when it came down to the Oilers draft pick of Dobson, Bouchard, or Wahlstrom ... I was actually thinking the pick was probably Dobson, because he looked so freaking good in the Memorial Cup.. glad I was wrong! Maybe the Oilers actually have a few guys that can evaluate players... amateur pick that is... :)


I guess his team is just horrid. But, he certainly doesn't appear to be helping move the needle at all.

Guess you never know until 5+ years down the road. Still, Bouchard continues to look like a very solid D prospect. Hope we all get to see him win something at the WJHC.



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....Oiler draft pick Phil Kemp invited to Team USA camp....right shot defenceman currently playing for Yale....of course all eyes will be on Jack Hughes...

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/juniors/jack-hughes-headline s-team-usa-preliminary-roster-world-juniors/

Kemp has one assist in 9 games so far this season for Yale....

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=187526

....Canada and USA are in separate groups for this year's WJC....




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.....Edmonton and Red Deer will be announced today (December 6) as hosts for the 2021 WJC, according to Bob McKenzie....

https://www.tsn.ca/edmonton-red-deer-to-host-2021-juniors-1. 1221595





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....first cuts for Team Canada....

https://www.tsn.ca/canada-makes-first-cuts-to-wjc-roster-1.1 226229

..."Canada cut forwards Raphael Lavoie and Ty Dellandrea as well as defencemen Cameron Crotty and Calen Addison following its 5-3 exhibition loss to the U Sports all-stars on Thursday night."....

..."Canada, whom had 34 players on its roster ahead of tonight's game, still has to release one goaltender, three defencemen and four forwards in order to get down to its official 22-man roster. ".....





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More cuts.. and a BIG loss .. Formenton injured in a pre-tourney game, out for the championship ... FK!!!
I'm really surprised about Liam Foudy getting cut, he's played unreal on prior TC teams.

https://www.tsn.ca/canada-makes-additional-cuts-to-wjc-roste r-1.1226658
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WORLD JUNIORS
Canada makes additional cuts to WJC roster

COLWOOD, B.C. — Six players were released Friday from Canada's world junior hockey team roster and one veteran forward was ruled out of the upcoming championship tournament due to injury.

Eleven players have left the team in the past two days, with four cuts Thursday, six more Friday and the announcement that Ottawa Senators draft pick Alex Formenton is injured and not able to play in the tournament which starts Boxing Day in Vancouver.
Formenton, one of only two returning players from last year's gold medal team, injured his right leg in a pre-tournament contest Wednesday.

"We've done everything medically for assessments and he unfortunately has suffered an injury that is longer term recovery than this tournament," said national team director Shawn Bullock. "Unfortunately, Alex won't be part of our national team program this year."


Goaltender Matthew Villalta, defencemen Jacob Bernard-Docker, Pierre-Olivier Joseph and Nicolas Beaudin, and forwards Liam Foudy and Isaac Ratcliffe were released late Friday after completing a three-game pre-tournament series against a team of Canadian university hockey players.

[Updated on: Sat, 15 December 2018 14:29]


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Maxime Comtois named captain of Team Canada at WJC....

https://www.tsn.ca/canada-names-comtois-captain-for-world-ju niors-1.1231484

..."Comtois, who was drafted by the Ducks in 2017, is the only returning member from Canada’s team. which won gold at last year's tournament.

Defencemen Evan Bouchard (Oilers prospect) and Ian Mitchell (Blackhawks propsect) and forward Jaret Anderson-Dolan (Kings Prospect) have been named the team’s alternate captains."....

....good choices, IMHO...as the only player returning to Team Canada from last year, Comtois and his experience should be a great asset for Canada....

....looks like Evan Bouchard is expected to have a significant role in the tournament...I should know by now not to go overboard with how well or how poorly the U-20's do at this tournament, especially individual players, but I still find the hockey as thrilling as most NHL games.....I've swallowed the TSN hype hook, line, and sinker....maybe it's because Sportsnet's coverage of the NHL is so mediocre, but I find the play-by-play of Gord Miller and the analysis by people like Bob McKenzie, Craig Button, and some of the other staff at TSN to be excellent by comparison...

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GabbyDugan wrote on Tue, 25 December 2018 17:57

Maxime Comtois named captain of Team Canada at WJC....

https://www.tsn.ca/canada-names-comtois-captain-for-world-ju niors-1.1231484

..."Comtois, who was drafted by the Ducks in 2017, is the only returning member from Canada’s team. which won gold at last year's tournament.

Defencemen Evan Bouchard (Oilers prospect) and Ian Mitchell (Blackhawks propsect) and forward Jaret Anderson-Dolan (Kings Prospect) have been named the team’s alternate captains."....

....good choices, IMHO...as the only player returning to Team Canada from last year, Comtois and his experience should be a great asset for Canada....

....looks like Evan Bouchard is expected to have a significant role in the tournament...I should know by now not to go overboard with how well or how poorly the U-20's do at this tournament, especially individual players, but I still find the hockey as thrilling as most NHL games.....I've swallowed the TSN hype hook, line, and sinker....maybe it's because Sportsnet's coverage of the NHL is so mediocre, but I find the play-by-play of Gord Miller and the analysis by people like Bob McKenzie, Craig Button, and some of the other staff at TSN to be excellent by comparison...

.....Go Canada!!!!!!!!




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Big Game tonight.
The Swiss game was worrying.



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Skookum Jim wrote on Sat, 29 December 2018 16:01

Big Game tonight.
The Swiss game was worrying.


Agreed. The round robin can be unpredictable given the biased coverage we get pre tourney, and the relative lack of knowledge I have of other countries junior teams

that in mind I thought they would be much better than the Swiss.




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Evan Bouchard leading the entire Tournament after 3 games with a +7.


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Heck of a first period. Go Canada!


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....Sweden shutout by Switzerland 2-0.....unbelievable effort by those Swiss kids....their coach sure is a grumpy guy, though.....



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GabbyDugan wrote on Wed, 02 January 2019 16:24

....Sweden shutout by Switzerland 2-0.....unbelievable effort by those Swiss kids....their coach sure is a grumpy guy, though.....


I think we can safely say that the Swiss have passed the Slovaks and are relatively even with the Czechs on the international hockey stage at the point.



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....and Canada loses to Finland 2-1 in overtime....



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NetBOG wrote on Wed, 02 January 2019 18:45

GabbyDugan wrote on Wed, 02 January 2019 16:24

....Sweden shutout by Switzerland 2-0.....unbelievable effort by those Swiss kids....their coach sure is a grumpy guy, though.....


I think we can safely say that the Swiss have passed the Slovaks and are relatively even with the Czechs on the international hockey stage at the point.


I expect we'll see other teams - the Germans, possibly the Danes & Norwegians - pass the Slovaks too. The number of rinks in that country is dwindling and with it the number of competitive players. Their golden generation is nearing retirement - you wonder who will inspire young Slovaks to play as their careers end.



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What a friggin burn too for Bouchard to earn that penalty shot for Canada and future Anaheim Ducks diving mega-douche Comtois (and apparently a love child of Hunter) wastes the penalty shot with a shot directly into the goalies pad.




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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 02 January 2019 18:26

What a friggin burn too for Bouchard to earn that penalty shot for Canada and future Anaheim Ducks diving mega-douche Comtois (and apparently a love child of Hunter) wastes the penalty shot with a shot directly into the goalies pad.





Hunter is a crap coach. He'll be stuck in junior the rest of his life.



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Wow. I remember when the world jr's belonged to Canada. I have never seen them bow out like this. Hunter wears the goat horns.

I am a tad concerned as Bouchard looked good on the point on the pp, but defended rather poorly throughout the tourney.



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Xombie wrote on Thu, 03 January 2019 11:57

Wow. I remember when the world jr's belonged to Canada. I have never seen them bow out like this. Hunter wears the goat horns.

I am a tad concerned as Bouchard looked good on the point on the pp, but defended rather poorly throughout the tourney.


Definitely needs some work, but lots of high end offensive D look just like that in their end in the NHL. Bouchard gets Carlson comparisons a lot. Watch Carlson in his own end, even in high stakes games in the playoffs. He's caught standing straight up watching the play all the time, doing the old late lazy reach ins with the stick. But, he more than makes up for it on the attack and PP. Justin Schultz played big minutes for his 2nd cup helping the offense and doing his usual thing in his own end (not that much).

We are starving for offense these days. I definitely have time for someone that can push the attack, even if his defensive game has some warts. We're loaded with guys that favour a defensive posture, I'd hope they can help shore that end up if we have a D that is able to attack and actually accomplish something while doing it.



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Kr55 wrote on Thu, 03 January 2019 11:43

Xombie wrote on Thu, 03 January 2019 11:57

Wow. I remember when the world jr's belonged to Canada. I have never seen them bow out like this. Hunter wears the goat horns.

I am a tad concerned as Bouchard looked good on the point on the pp, but defended rather poorly throughout the tourney.


Definitely needs some work, but lots of high end offensive D look just like that in their end in the NHL. Bouchard gets Carlson comparisons a lot. Watch Carlson in his own end, even in high stakes games in the playoffs. He's caught standing straight up watching the play all the time, doing the old late lazy reach ins with the stick. But, he more than makes up for it on the attack and PP. Justin Schultz played big minutes for his 2nd cup helping the offense and doing his usual thing in his own end (not that much).

We are starving for offense these days. I definitely have time for someone that can push the attack, even if his defensive game has some warts. We're loaded with guys that favour a defensive posture, I'd hope they can help shore that end up if we have a D that is able to attack and actually accomplish something while doing it.

You are definitely on to something. An offence first D man would be welcomed. If Bouch isn't a true number one, that is fine. What I mean by that is if we're down by a goal with 30 seconds left and Bouch is on the bench it's hard to call that a number 1D. More of a situational role player which would still be very welcome to the team, provided the coach utilizes him accordingly. Much like Jultz in Pitt.

I wonder if poor Evan's fate is to fall out of favour with Oiler fans. As Adam often points out those non physical, poke-check first, offense cheating defenseman can fall out of favour in E-town real quick. But man, Petry and Schultz here right now would do wonders for this team.



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Xombie wrote on Fri, 04 January 2019 09:02

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 03 January 2019 11:43

Xombie wrote on Thu, 03 January 2019 11:57

Wow. I remember when the world jr's belonged to Canada. I have never seen them bow out like this. Hunter wears the goat horns.

I am a tad concerned as Bouchard looked good on the point on the pp, but defended rather poorly throughout the tourney.


Definitely needs some work, but lots of high end offensive D look just like that in their end in the NHL. Bouchard gets Carlson comparisons a lot. Watch Carlson in his own end, even in high stakes games in the playoffs. He's caught standing straight up watching the play all the time, doing the old late lazy reach ins with the stick. But, he more than makes up for it on the attack and PP. Justin Schultz played big minutes for his 2nd cup helping the offense and doing his usual thing in his own end (not that much).

We are starving for offense these days. I definitely have time for someone that can push the attack, even if his defensive game has some warts. We're loaded with guys that favour a defensive posture, I'd hope they can help shore that end up if we have a D that is able to attack and actually accomplish something while doing it.

You are definitely on to something. An offence first D man would be welcomed. If Bouch isn't a true number one, that is fine. What I mean by that is if we're down by a goal with 30 seconds left and Bouch is on the bench it's hard to call that a number 1D. More of a situational role player which would still be very welcome to the team, provided the coach utilizes him accordingly. Much like Jultz in Pitt.

I wonder if poor Evan's fate is to fall out of favour with Oiler fans. As Adam often points out those non physical, poke-check first, offense cheating defenseman can fall out of favour in E-town real quick. But man, Petry and Schultz here right now would do wonders for this team.


If we aren't gonna learn the value of having some offense from the back end from this multi-year dry spell of any right handed offensive D in our lineup, then we may never :)

Yeah, I'm certainly not seeing an all-round 2-way D in Bouchard. Kid is gonna tilt way more towards offense, and hopefully he is able to be elite in that aspect for us.



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 Re: Team Canada Juniors 2018-19 [message #726496 is a reply to message #726492 ]
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Kr55 wrote on Fri, 04 January 2019 10:02

Xombie wrote on Fri, 04 January 2019 09:02

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 03 January 2019 11:43

Xombie wrote on Thu, 03 January 2019 11:57

Wow. I remember when the world jr's belonged to Canada. I have never seen them bow out like this. Hunter wears the goat horns.

I am a tad concerned as Bouchard looked good on the point on the pp, but defended rather poorly throughout the tourney.


Definitely needs some work, but lots of high end offensive D look just like that in their end in the NHL. Bouchard gets Carlson comparisons a lot. Watch Carlson in his own end, even in high stakes games in the playoffs. He's caught standing straight up watching the play all the time, doing the old late lazy reach ins with the stick. But, he more than makes up for it on the attack and PP. Justin Schultz played big minutes for his 2nd cup helping the offense and doing his usual thing in his own end (not that much).

We are starving for offense these days. I definitely have time for someone that can push the attack, even if his defensive game has some warts. We're loaded with guys that favour a defensive posture, I'd hope they can help shore that end up if we have a D that is able to attack and actually accomplish something while doing it.

You are definitely on to something. An offence first D man would be welcomed. If Bouch isn't a true number one, that is fine. What I mean by that is if we're down by a goal with 30 seconds left and Bouch is on the bench it's hard to call that a number 1D. More of a situational role player which would still be very welcome to the team, provided the coach utilizes him accordingly. Much like Jultz in Pitt.

I wonder if poor Evan's fate is to fall out of favour with Oiler fans. As Adam often points out those non physical, poke-check first, offense cheating defenseman can fall out of favour in E-town real quick. But man, Petry and Schultz here right now would do wonders for this team.


If we aren't gonna learn the value of having some offense from the back end from this multi-year dry spell of any right handed offensive D in our lineup, then we may never :)

Yeah, I'm certainly not seeing an all-round 2-way D in Bouchard. Kid is gonna tilt way more towards offense, and hopefully he is able to be elite in that aspect for us.


I know this is craziness here, but at some point we might just need someone in the organization to call out the fans on being idiots if they get on offensive, non-physical defencemen. Maybe save up some serious condescension even and blast no-nothing fans and media guys who only see defencemen as valuable if they are Luke Richardson clones.

I know that there's no one currently there who'll spend any of their capital with the fanbase protecting Oilers' players, but if we're going to be successful, we may need to hire someone who will occasionally go out on that ledge.



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 Re: Team Canada Juniors 2018-19 [message #726520 is a reply to message #726488 ]
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Xombie wrote on Fri, 04 January 2019 10:02

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 03 January 2019 11:43

Xombie wrote on Thu, 03 January 2019 11:57

Wow. I remember when the world jr's belonged to Canada. I have never seen them bow out like this. Hunter wears the goat horns.

I am a tad concerned as Bouchard looked good on the point on the pp, but defended rather poorly throughout the tourney.


Definitely needs some work, but lots of high end offensive D look just like that in their end in the NHL. Bouchard gets Carlson comparisons a lot. Watch Carlson in his own end, even in high stakes games in the playoffs. He's caught standing straight up watching the play all the time, doing the old late lazy reach ins with the stick. But, he more than makes up for it on the attack and PP. Justin Schultz played big minutes for his 2nd cup helping the offense and doing his usual thing in his own end (not that much).

We are starving for offense these days. I definitely have time for someone that can push the attack, even if his defensive game has some warts. We're loaded with guys that favour a defensive posture, I'd hope they can help shore that end up if we have a D that is able to attack and actually accomplish something while doing it.

You are definitely on to something. An offence first D man would be welcomed. If Bouch isn't a true number one, that is fine. What I mean by that is if we're down by a goal with 30 seconds left and Bouch is on the bench it's hard to call that a number 1D. More of a situational role player which would still be very welcome to the team, provided the coach utilizes him accordingly. Much like Jultz in Pitt.

I wonder if poor Evan's fate is to fall out of favour with Oiler fans. As Adam often points out those non physical, poke-check first, offense cheating defenseman can fall out of favour in E-town real quick. But man, Petry and Schultz here right now would do wonders for this team.


Bouch is more high end offensively than Petry or Schultz because of his hockey sense and vision. Reminds me more of a bigger more physical, but slightly slower Barrie. His hockey sense is through the roof which not only helps him offensively but should help in the D end a bit as well. Also he is much more physically developed than the other 2 mentioned above which will hopefully help him defensively as well. He needs to keep working on the skating and intensity and he will be just fine. Was no worse than the #4 on this team during his small sample size in most of the NHL action he got into.

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 Re: Team Canada Juniors 2018-19 [message #726537 is a reply to message #726520 ]
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....turns out Comtois played the last few games of the tournament with a separated shoulder...will miss the next couple of weeks in the QMJHL....

https://www.tsn.ca/comtois-played-wjc-with-separated-shoulde r-1.1236520

....makes Tim Hunter's decision to have him take that penalty shot even more bizarre...

....as far as Bouchard is concerned, I'm glad he got the ice time, but feel Hunter didn't use his mobility and puck handling ability very well at all....Bouchard will end up being more effective in the attacking zone, but he will still have to be strong in the defending zone...in the WJC he just stood around in the defending zone, probably as instructed by Hunter....wasn't very effective as the pressure built up during the tournament...Bouchard will be fine once he gets back to London and a team that plays to Bouchard's strengths...

...hope Tim Hunter isn't back as Team Canada coach next tournament...




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GabbyDugan wrote on Sat, 05 January 2019 17:52

....turns out Comtois played the last few games of the tournament with a separated shoulder...will miss the next couple of weeks in the QMJHL....

https://www.tsn.ca/comtois-played-wjc-with-separated-shoulde r-1.1236520

....makes Tim Hunter's decision to have him take that penalty shot even more bizarre...

....as far as Bouchard is concerned, I'm glad he got the ice time, but feel Hunter didn't use his mobility and puck handling ability very well at all....Bouchard will end up being more effective in the attacking zone, but he will still have to be strong in the defending zone...in the WJC he just stood around in the defending zone, probably as instructed by Hunter....wasn't very effective as the pressure built up during the tournament...Bouchard will be fine once he gets back to London and a team that plays to Bouchard's strengths...

...hope Tim Hunter isn't back as Team Canada coach next tournament...


Hopefully the silver lining is that this ensures we don't have to see Hunter's beak in the NHL any time soon. Very displeasing.



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 Re: Team Canada Juniors 2018-19 [message #726541 is a reply to message #726537 ]
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GabbyDugan wrote on Sat, 05 January 2019 16:52

....turns out Comtois played the last few games of the tournament with a separated shoulder...will miss the next couple of weeks in the QMJHL....

https://www.tsn.ca/comtois-played-wjc-with-separated-shoulde r-1.1236520

....makes Tim Hunter's decision to have him take that penalty shot even more bizarre...


....as far as Bouchard is concerned, I'm glad he got the ice time, but feel Hunter didn't use his mobility and puck handling ability very well at all....Bouchard will end up being more effective in the attacking zone, but he will still have to be strong in the defending zone...in the WJC he just stood around in the defending zone, probably as instructed by Hunter....wasn't very effective as the pressure built up during the tournament...Bouchard will be fine once he gets back to London and a team that plays to Bouchard's strengths...

...hope Tim Hunter isn't back as Team Canada coach next tournament...


Confirmed, Hunter is a crap coach. Lots of snipers on that team, the goalie was 6'-5", not much net to shoot at, you need a snipe to go high corner.

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