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Reinhart put on waivers by Vegas, do Oilers put in a claim?

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Can we then trade him for the two draft picks? Just a big ol' mulligan?


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He's a upgrade on Avitu or Avautu or whatever the hell is name is.


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Babaganoosh wrote on Sun, 29 October 2017 12:48

He's a upgrade on Avitu or Avautu or whatever the hell is name is.


Even if that's true - and having seen Griffin a while here, I"m not sure that it's much if any upgrade - we can't pick him up without filling our 50-contract limit. Considering that the whole strategy for the season seems to be sell the farm for upgrades at the deadline, you can't waste more contract spots on seventh defencemen.

Unless we can find someone to take Auvitu or Gryba or Pakarinen or Khaira, then they can't claim Reinhart.



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Adam wrote on Sun, 29 October 2017 14:07

Babaganoosh wrote on Sun, 29 October 2017 12:48

He's a upgrade on Avitu or Avautu or whatever the hell is name is.


Even if that's true - and having seen Griffin a while here, I"m not sure that it's much if any upgrade - we can't pick him up without filling our 50-contract limit. Considering that the whole strategy for the season seems to be sell the farm for upgrades at the deadline, you can't waste more contract spots on seventh defencemen.

Unless we can find someone to take Auvitu or Gryba or Pakarinen or Khaira, then they can't claim Reinhart.

I completely agree with all of that. I still think they might make a move to claim him. They might see it as a way to save face on their atrocious asset Management



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Babaganoosh wrote on Sun, 29 October 2017 20:51

Adam wrote on Sun, 29 October 2017 14:07

Babaganoosh wrote on Sun, 29 October 2017 12:48

He's a upgrade on Avitu or Avautu or whatever the hell is name is.


Even if that's true - and having seen Griffin a while here, I"m not sure that it's much if any upgrade - we can't pick him up without filling our 50-contract limit. Considering that the whole strategy for the season seems to be sell the farm for upgrades at the deadline, you can't waste more contract spots on seventh defencemen.

Unless we can find someone to take Auvitu or Gryba or Pakarinen or Khaira, then they can't claim Reinhart.

I completely agree with all of that. I still think they might make a move to claim him. They might see it as a way to save face on their atrocious asset Management


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 Re: G. Reinhart Put On Waivers [message #701177 is a reply to message #701165 ]
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If the Oilers claim Reinhart, it's a pretty damning indication where this defense group is at right now. He's yet to prove he's NHL calibre, and if that's an upgrade on Auvitu and Gryba, that's revealing.

I think the contract limit might keep them at bay. I think it's why Chris Kelly never signed a deal, much as the Oilers seem to want to keep him around (seriously, what kind of under the table money is he getting to stick around Edmonton with no contract?)

Maybe they ship out a contract and make this happen. But I don't really miss Reinhart. It was a bad trade to get him, but I don't feel they lost much by losing him.



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The defense of the 2017-18 Edmonton Oilers is not good enough. We can nitpick about why. Is Klefbom asked to do too much? Is Sekera missed that badly? Is Benning proving the sophomore slump?

If you loose a #2-3 defenseman like Sekera and it's doomsday, that's a problem. Injuries to defenseman have to be expected, and planned for. Especially if you want to go deep in the playoffs. The d needs depth, plain and simple. One more injury to any defenseman and we are not even a playoff team!

Klefbom = #2-3 Defenseman on a good team.
Larsson = #2-3
Sekera = #2-3
Russell = #4-5
Nurse = #4-5 (as of right now, he will trend up in the future)
Benning = #5-6
Gryba = #6-7
Auvitu = #7-8-AHL

It has been discussed to death on here what Chia should have done, and that anyone could see the holes in the line up. So what do we do moving forward is the big question. We have 5 mill in cap space. We have the best centre ice man on the planet and are in a win now mode.

I am of the opinion we mortgage some future, even if we get ripped off. I'd dangle the 2018 and heck even the 2019 first round selections to GM G.M. down in Vegas for Nate Shmidt.

Is that a bad trade? Kinda. Is Shmidt worth two firsts? No. Am I in love with Nate Shmidt and saying it has to be him? No, any d man of his ilk will do. I just think Vegas has an excuse to be bad, they are expansion and fan expectations are low, and GM G.M. is the most likely GM to become moist at the thought of two more early picks. Maybe the 2019 first and Dillon Simpson gets it done, I don't know. The real question: would this trade fix our defenseman depth problems? Yes. Maybe the depth could even allow Bear and Jones time to season in the AHL and not be rushed like all the other Oiler defenseman prospects.



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 Re: G. Reinhart Put On Waivers [message #701178 is a reply to message #701165 ]
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I think he's an upgrade on Auvitu, but the Oilers must have figured with all the d-men LV picked up in expansion that they'd need to put one or two on waivers eventually, so why max out our 50 man contract ? Poor planning.


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Taking the Oilers out of the conversation. Another baffling move by Vegas. I can't remember who the Oilers exposed but Pouliot was one of them. Before the expansion draft, I had said I thought the smart move was to take Pouliot. Pouliot can play in your bottom 6, he can kill penalties, he skates well, has some size, decent skill and can score a little. He has shown over his career that for short 1-2 yr spurts, he can be a good player. The problem in Edmonton was he was past that 2 yr good spurt and he made WAY too much money as in 2-2.5 mill too much. But for Vegas who had cap space I thought he would be a good pick up over Reinhart simply because I thought there were way better dman available to take over Reinhart. Looks like I was right.

So they take Garrison as a favor to Tampa to get some mediocre extra assets then wave him because he's a really expensive, bottom pairing dman. Then that pass up any sort of remotely useful players from the Oilers and take a project in Reinhart so now they wave him.



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Reinhart clears.

That's still a win for Chia right? He lost a guy in the expansion draft that no one in the entire NHL wants. #winning



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Do you think it is just something to do with how the Reinhart kids are wired? Griffen was a fairly highly touted dman. Whether he should have been drafted 4th overall or not is up for debate but he would have been drafted pretty high regardless. Sam Reinhart was considered to be a really talented, high end scoring forward and he hasn't done much in Buffalo yet.


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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 30 October 2017 10:37

Do you think it is just something to do with how the Reinhart kids are wired? Griffen was a fairly highly touted dman. Whether he should have been drafted 4th overall or not is up for debate but he would have been drafted pretty high regardless. Sam Reinhart was considered to be a really talented, high end scoring forward and he hasn't done much in Buffalo yet.


For sure Griffin's issue is speed. I think he was touted as having good hockey sense like Sam. Sam was super hyped for his hockey IQ, but I wonder if skating is an issue for him too.

All well and good to know where you should go, but unless you are like, Jagr smart, it's damn hard in the NHL to make up for a lack of speed if you're just a pure no physical contact offensive guy. And defensively, you're really screwed now if you can't be skating at a high level all night and you have to play anything close to top 4 minutes.

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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 30 October 2017 09:15

Reinhart clears.

That's still a win for Chia right? He lost a guy in the expansion draft that no one in the entire NHL wants. #winning



... either that or you can look at it as a guy you gave up 1st and 2nd round draft picks for .. that nobody else in the league wants... for free...



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Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 30 October 2017 13:21

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 30 October 2017 09:15

Reinhart clears.

That's still a win for Chia right? He lost a guy in the expansion draft that no one in the entire NHL wants. #winning



... either that or you can look at it as a guy you gave up 1st and 2nd round draft picks for .. that nobody else in the league wants... for free...


I choose to only look at the 2 most recent interactions/potential interactions. Just because :)



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Griffin Reinhart was signed to a professional tryout contract by the BELLEVILLE Senators.


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Adam wrote on Mon, 23 September 2019 19:09

Griffin Reinhart was signed to a professional tryout contract by the BELLEVILLE Senators.


We can only hope those that had any input on the deal on our side are long gone and removed from input going forward.



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nullterm wrote on Mon, 23 September 2019 21:12

Adam wrote on Mon, 23 September 2019 19:09

Griffin Reinhart was signed to a professional tryout contract by the BELLEVILLE Senators.


We can only hope those that had any input on the deal on our side are long gone and removed from input going forward.


Pulju for Reinhart? Or do we have to add a 2nd?



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