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 Re: Oil sign Dr Drai - 8 yrs at $8.5mil/season [message #698971 is a reply to message #698969 ]
Thu, 14 September 2017 14:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Pseudoreality  is currently offline Pseudoreality
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GabbyDugan wrote on Thu, 14 September 2017 14:08

...This year, Drai should be able to start the season stronger than last year, when he was playing from early August in Germany to qualify them for a spot in the Olympics, then playing in that forgettable World Cup of Hockey tournament before training camp started...this year, he just has to be concerned with his performance as an Oiler....


That should have made him start strong, but maybe burn out by the end of the year. Players are typically in best game shape mid-year.



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 Re: Oil sign Dr Drai - 8 yrs at $8.5mil/season [message #704995 is a reply to message #698971 ]
Fri, 08 December 2017 12:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Not to say Draisaitl has necessarily been bad this year but 0 PP points through 24 games isn't going to cut it when you're getting paid as top 10 player.

So glad we blew by all his comparables so this contract could possibly seen as a "deal" in the last couple years. Meanwhile in CGY, Gaudreau is top 3 in scoring making $6.75M/yr although his term was a couple years shorter.

Unfortunate that any time we have a good season we have key players due for new contracts and are all to eager to overpay.



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 Re: Oil sign Dr Drai - 8 yrs at $8.5mil/season [message #704996 is a reply to message #704995 ]
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Gator21 wrote on Fri, 08 December 2017 12:03

Not to say Draisaitl has necessarily been bad this year but 0 PP points through 24 games isn't going to cut it when you're getting paid as top 10 player.

So glad we blew by all his comparables so this contract could possibly seen as a "deal" in the last couple years. Meanwhile in CGY, Gaudreau is top 3 in scoring making $6.75M/yr although his term was a couple years shorter.

Unfortunate that any time we have a good season we have key players due for new contracts and are all to eager to overpay.


Does Drai ever get to touch the puck on the PP though? Think 50% of our puck possession on the PP this year has been between Letestu and LUcic. McDavid probably 35%, and rest of the guys the other 15% between them.



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 Re: Oil sign Dr Drai - 8 yrs at $8.5mil/season [message #705002 is a reply to message #704996 ]
Fri, 08 December 2017 14:18 Go to previous message
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Kr55 wrote on Fri, 08 December 2017 12:05

Gator21 wrote on Fri, 08 December 2017 12:03

Not to say Draisaitl has necessarily been bad this year but 0 PP points through 24 games isn't going to cut it when you're getting paid as top 10 player.

So glad we blew by all his comparables so this contract could possibly seen as a "deal" in the last couple years. Meanwhile in CGY, Gaudreau is top 3 in scoring making $6.75M/yr although his term was a couple years shorter.

Unfortunate that any time we have a good season we have key players due for new contracts and are all to eager to overpay.


Does Drai ever get to touch the puck on the PP though? Think 50% of our puck possession on the PP this year has been between Letestu and LUcic. McDavid probably 35%, and rest of the guys the other 15% between them.


I have thought for years that the Oilers lack for imagination with the down-low player on the strong side. That's where they stationed Hall too, and his PP numbers were never huge. It's an awkward spot. You aren't in position to shoot from there, and you really only have a couple of passing lanes, so usually it ends up going back up to the guy on the half-wall, other than the rare chance where you have the opening to try to put it across the crease to the back door. You kind of feel like guys like Draisaitl and Hall are wasted from that spot, and that there has to be something more that can be done to make that position more dangerous - sliding out to the mid-to-high slot at times, perhaps, or, if you had a guy who could make a pass on the far side (probably not Letestu), you could swing behind the net sometimes there. Having them relatively stationary below the goal line is unthreatening, to say the least.



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 Re: Oil sign Dr Drai - 8 yrs at $8.5mil/season [message #698399 is a reply to message #698344 ]
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I am not very happy with this summer...we are paying Draisaitl the 13th most in the league next and he is the only one in RFA years. This is just not good negotiating for a player that we are uncertain will be able to maintain the kind of year he had last year. I would have preferred the 1 or 2 year bridge at this point, because I just can't see a world where Draisaitl will prove to be worth more than 8.5M. He is coming off of a top 10 scoring year and he is getting paid for it in full value. Is there any chance he does better than that next year? I would say not very likely.

I like him a lot, but he pretty much has to be at least a top 15 scorer now for this to be worth it. 8M really should have been lots.

The saving grace is that the McDavid and Draisaitl contracts might be good value in the UFA years that they signed. Let's hope. Draisaitl is not a sure fire thing like Malkin was.

I have no confidence in Chiarelli's negotiating skills. We are just paying top dollar in everything. Whether it is Draisaitl, Kris Russell, Lucic, trading for Larsson, or trading for Strome.




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 Re: Oil sign Dr Drai - 8 yrs at $8.5mil/season [message #698400 is a reply to message #698344 ]
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Put me down as not loving the deal but I think I can stomach it. 8.5 is way too much on a single stellar season. The term is great but I'm not sure he can drive his own line, he's great for protecting the puck and his big size helps him at the centre position but 8.5 is a lot for 1 single season.

I thought he had another year of his ELC because he wasn't on the...oh right.

Nuge is gone. Simply no room at the inn. He makes too much for a 3 C and even though I really do love how he back checks and his play away from the puck his cash is too much for that roll.

..and guys that Russell signing? It's fine.

Many people lament over the cap figures but are people not seeing the cap will go up and we certainly are heading toward another lock out in 2020 which will probably reduce the wages of the players by another 25% I've seen this play before guys. Before the last lockout GM's were signing at crazy deals too. It all worked out, not for the fans but business wise it did.




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 Re: Oil sign Dr Drai - 8 yrs at $8.5mil/season [message #698402 is a reply to message #698344 ]
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Not a huge fan of the dollars, but it's not the worst I've ever seen.

Most importantly, Chia can get to the cabin for the rest of August without the stress of this contract hanging over his head.



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