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 Re: 2022-23 Regular Season OOT Thread [message #820750 is a reply to message #820747 ]
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Adam wrote on Mon, 10 April 2023 14:04

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 10 April 2023 13:15

I thought the league was watching to make sure teams didn't do exactly this. Putting guys on LTIR to create cap space then miraculously that player is completely healthy and ready to go game 1.


I think the NHL has studiously avoided promising to do anything about this.

The fact is, they like it because it creates more opportunity for trades at the deadline. This is just a fact of life now.


Watch the Oilers get hit with losing a 3rd round pick if McLeod is back for game 1

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 Re: 2022-23 Regular Season OOT Thread [message #820751 is a reply to message #820747 ]
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I never thought they would actually do anything about it. They don't ever do. It's just funny to me they make their statement just before the deadline then the exact situation comes up and they do nothing.

I guess if the Oilers have a big name player "hurt" allowing the team to load up on other player, then that player was ready for game 1, I'd think the rule was great.

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 Re: 2022-23 Regular Season OOT Thread [message #820752 is a reply to message #820751 ]
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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 10 April 2023 14:44

I never thought they would actually do anything about it. They don't ever do. It's just funny to me they make their statement just before the deadline then the exact situation comes up and they do nothing.

I guess if the Oilers have a big name player "hurt" allowing the team to load up on other player, then that player was ready for game 1, I'd think the rule was great.

That isn't quite what they warned about. The league suggested that you can't pick up an injured player and stow them immediately on LTIR until the playoffs. They didn't say anything at all about stuffing your own guys in to LTIR, and then acquiring additional players. It's a weird hair to be splitting, but it's almost a perfect Bettman warning - it impresses the fans who think the league is watching hawk-eyed for cap circumvention here, while telling the teams that unless you do this really specific thing that doesn't happen often, you're good to do whatever you want.

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The NHL released a memo to teams this morning saying that it will "closely scrutinize" trades where injured players are acquired with the intent of keeping them on LTIR until the playoffs.

This could impact the market for players like Nyquist, Monahan, Henrique, etc.

...

While the NHL isn't outright banning any such moves, it says it will investigate transacations to see if they consistute circumvention of the CBA.

...

What has some teams upset is these trades have been permitted in the past. For example, the #leafs acquired Riley Nash while he was recovering from a sprained knee in April 2021 and didn't activate him until the playoffs.

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 Re: 2022-23 Regular Season OOT Thread [message #820753 is a reply to message #820752 ]
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Adam wrote on Mon, 10 April 2023 14:53

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 10 April 2023 14:44

I never thought they would actually do anything about it. They don't ever do. It's just funny to me they make their statement just before the deadline then the exact situation comes up and they do nothing.

I guess if the Oilers have a big name player "hurt" allowing the team to load up on other player, then that player was ready for game 1, I'd think the rule was great.

That isn't quite what they warned about. The league suggested that you can't pick up an injured player and stow them immediately on LTIR until the playoffs. They didn't say anything at all about stuffing your own guys in to LTIR, and then acquiring additional players. It's a weird hair to be splitting, but it's almost a perfect Bettman warning - it impresses the fans who think the league is watching hawk-eyed for cap circumvention here, while telling the teams that unless you do this really specific thing that doesn't happen often, you're good to do whatever you want.

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The NHL released a memo to teams this morning saying that it will "closely scrutinize" trades where injured players are acquired with the intent of keeping them on LTIR until the playoffs.

This could impact the market for players like Nyquist, Monahan, Henrique, etc.

...

While the NHL isn't outright banning any such moves, it says it will investigate transacations to see if they consistute circumvention of the CBA.

...

What has some teams upset is these trades have been permitted in the past. For example, the #leafs acquired Riley Nash while he was recovering from a sprained knee in April 2021 and didn't activate him until the playoffs.


Thanks for sending me the exact wording. I knew it was about having players on LTIR in the season but then being ready for game 1, but I forgot about the part where they made it be about trading for guys.

But you are exactly right, it's another Bettmanism. By the spirit of what they said, in my opinion there really isn't a difference. Whether it's a guy who was on your team already or you trade for an LTIR guy, you are still basically stashing a guy for the regular season, using his cap space to bring in other players, then when the cap doesn't count anymore, you bring them all back and have a team way over the cap with no penalty. No one is going to convince me that it's pure coincidence that Stone was 100% ready to be a full participant with just over 1 week to go before playoffs.

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 Re: 2022-23 Regular Season OOT Thread [message #820744 is a reply to message #820740 ]
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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 10 April 2023 12:20

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Mark Stone is participating with the team during today’s practice in a non-contact jersey #VegasBorn


Oh look, Stone is back just in time for the playoffs. Perfect timing because Vegas use all his LTIR space in the regular season.


Taylor Hall said himself he was ready to play 2 weeks ago, but they spent his cap hit on Bertuzzi. Teams don't even care about the optics anymore.

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NetBOG wrote on Mon, 10 April 2023 13:40

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 10 April 2023 12:20

x - Vegas Golden Knights @GoldenKnights
Mark Stone is participating with the team during today’s practice in a non-contact jersey #VegasBorn


Oh look, Stone is back just in time for the playoffs. Perfect timing because Vegas use all his LTIR space in the regular season.


Taylor Hall said himself he was ready to play 2 weeks ago, but they spent his cap hit on Bertuzzi. Teams don't even care about the optics anymore.


The party keeps going until the Oilers try it. Then it'll be ruined for everyone.

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NetBOG wrote on Mon, 10 April 2023 13:40

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 10 April 2023 12:20

x - Vegas Golden Knights @GoldenKnights
Mark Stone is participating with the team during today’s practice in a non-contact jersey #VegasBorn


Oh look, Stone is back just in time for the playoffs. Perfect timing because Vegas use all his LTIR space in the regular season.


Taylor Hall said himself he was ready to play 2 weeks ago, but they spent his cap hit on Bertuzzi. Teams don't even care about the optics anymore.


Hall came back this weekend. The Bruins shifted a couple other guys to the IR instead of him.

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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 10 April 2023 12:20

x - Vegas Golden Knights @GoldenKnights
Mark Stone is participating with the team during today’s practice in a non-contact jersey #VegasBorn


Oh look, Stone is back just in time for the playoffs. Perfect timing because Vegas use all his LTIR space in the regular season.

God, I hate the VGK so #%@!ing much. I want to see them get swept in the first round by whoever they play, then hit cap hell when all of the trades and signings they made come back to bite them in their big fat asses.

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Congrats to EK65 on hitting 100 pts. Thankfully, it was in a losing cause against the Jets, who pull 3 pts ahead of Cowtown.

Go Preds!

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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Mon, 10 April 2023 19:31

Congrats to EK65 on hitting 100 pts. Thankfully, it was in a losing cause against the Jets, who pull 3 pts ahead of Cowtown.

Go Preds!


Tonights Flames-Preds game is an old school loser leaves town match, but neither has much chance of catching the Jets anyway.

Going to be scooting over to CalgaryPuck to bask in Flames fans misery.

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Calgary barely keeping hope alive. Barrie went full oilers with a ring around the boards to help the Lames get this game back to 2-2.

Seattle about to jump into 3rd in the division while LA plays and needs a point to take it back.

All this time thinking LA was for sure, we could end up with Seattle. That would be a very fun series.

[Updated on: Mon, 10 April 2023 21:49]

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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 10 April 2023 21:46

Calgary barely keeping hope alive. Barrie went full oilers with a ring around the boards to help the Lames get this game back to 2-2.

Seattle about to jump into 3rd in the division while LA plays and needs a point to take it back.

All this time thinking LA was for sure, we could end up with Seattle. That would be a very fun series.


Sweet, we've all seen Eberle choke in the playoffs. Nice if it would be for the other guys this time.

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And there go the Flames with the SO loss to the Preds. Time to watch the meltdown on their forums- good old schadenfreude....

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Ragnarok73 wrote on Mon, 10 April 2023 22:16

And there go the Flames with the SO loss to the Preds. Time to watch the meltdown on their forums- good old schadenfreude....


Nice to see the Flames back in their usual spot. Not good enough to win anything, but not bad enough to ever draft a surefire elite player.

I enjoyed Hrudey trying to help Lames fans blame the refs for the final fail of the season.


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[Updated on: Mon, 10 April 2023 22:33]

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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 10 April 2023 22:19

Ragnarok73 wrote on Mon, 10 April 2023 22:16

And there go the Flames with the SO loss to the Preds. Time to watch the meltdown on their forums- good old schadenfreude....


Nice to see the Flames back in their usual spot. Not good enough to win anything, but not bad enough to ever draft a surefire elite player.

I enjoyed Hrudey trying to help Lames fans blame the refs for the final fail of the season.


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CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 10 April 2023 22:41

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 10 April 2023 22:19

Ragnarok73 wrote on Mon, 10 April 2023 22:16

And there go the Flames with the SO loss to the Preds. Time to watch the meltdown on their forums- good old schadenfreude....


Nice to see the Flames back in their usual spot. Not good enough to win anything, but not bad enough to ever draft a surefire elite player.

I enjoyed Hrudey trying to help Lames fans blame the refs for the final fail of the season.


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Anyone else find it poetic that the very thing that kept them in the playoff hunt for so long (OT losses) is the very same thing that eventually eliminates them?

Good riddance. Not gonna lie, I did a fist pump when that 3rd Preds shooter scored to tie the shootout, then another one when they won it.

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Continually drafting 11-15th overall will keep an organization mired in mediocrity, unless you hit on an Ales Hemsky more than you hit on Alex Mikhnov.

Enjoy it Flames.

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I will give Sutter credit, he's his own man, does things his way and no one will change that. Your season is on the line. You have to score. You have to win. A team missing their 3 best forwards, their best dmen, they sold at the deadline and a team loaded with young guys, takes you too a shootout in a must win. You have Toffoli, Lindholm, Mangipane, Dube on your bench, especially Toffoli who is your leading goal scorer and point scorer ready to go and you tap Ritchie, a 4th liner on the shoulder.

WOW!

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RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 11 April 2023 11:34

I will give Sutter credit, he's his own man, does things his way and no one will change that. Your season is on the line. You have to score. You have to win. A team missing their 3 best forwards, their best dmen, they sold at the deadline and a team loaded with young guys, takes you too a shootout in a must win. You have Toffoli, Lindholm, Mangipane, Dube on your bench, especially Toffoli who is your leading goal scorer and point scorer ready to go and you tap Ritchie, a 4th liner on the shoulder.

WOW!


I think I read that Ritchie had scored on Saros in the shootout in a previous game, so I can understand trying him again. Flames fans are furious about that decision though rofl

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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Tue, 11 April 2023 09:15

RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 11 April 2023 11:34

I will give Sutter credit, he's his own man, does things his way and no one will change that. Your season is on the line. You have to score. You have to win. A team missing their 3 best forwards, their best dmen, they sold at the deadline and a team loaded with young guys, takes you too a shootout in a must win. You have Toffoli, Lindholm, Mangipane, Dube on your bench, especially Toffoli who is your leading goal scorer and point scorer ready to go and you tap Ritchie, a 4th liner on the shoulder.

WOW!


I think I read that Ritchie had scored on Saros in the shootout in a previous game, so I can understand trying him again. Flames fans are furious about that decision though rofl

I tried to listen to part of Sutter's presser and he was asked about Ritchie. He always mumbles so I had a hard time understanding what nonsense he was saying but you are right. He mentioned something like that and some stat as to the reason why.

I was just blown away he would put Ritchie out there and leave his best guys on the bench. Regardless of how they are playing that game or whatever shootout percentage they have or whatever. They are your best players and in your top 6 for a reason, most sane coaches will go with their best guys. But at the same time, this is the same coach who I have seen late in other games when they are down a goal, he throws out his 4th line in the dying minutes just because they were having a decent game and he was mad at his top guys. As an Oilers fan, the best thing that could happen to that team with Sutter's brand new deal kicking in, is he is either the coach next season or they don't resign Tre and kick Sutter up to GM.

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Ha ha ha ha...#FireSutter is trending on twitter.

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NetBOG wrote on Mon, 10 April 2023 21:51


Sweet, we've all seen Eberle choke in the playoffs. Nice if it would be for the other guys this time.


This is another of those Edmonton Oilers fans things where we remember only one small thing and we hold on to it as true forever.

Eberle had a tough playoff with the Oilers in 2017 - he had just two points in 13 games in his first post-season.

It's worth noting that his role was significantly reduced by McLellan in that playoffs, with him just seeing 14:32 per game of ice time. Some of that is possibly performance driven, but McLellan was using Nuge and Eberle as essentially third liners.

His next time in the post-season was with the Islanders in 2018-19. Not only did he not choke, he led the team in playoff scoring with 4-5-9 in 8 games, helping the Isles to sweep the Pens before getting rolled by the Hurricanes in the second round.

In 2019-20 in the bubble, the Islanders went all the way to the semi-finals in the bubble, with Eberle scoring 5-9-14 in 22 games, tying him for 4th on the team in scoring in that tournament. The Islanders beat the Panthers in the play-in, then took out the Capitals and Flyers before going down to the eventual Cup champion Lightning in 6 games.

In 2020-21, the Islanders again went three rounds deep and even took the Lightning to 7 games in the semi-finals. They beat the Penguins and Bruins along the way. Eberle had 4-7-11, good for 6th on the team and only 3 off the team leader (Barzal).

So, in short, the Islanders were giant killers for Eberle's last two years there, and he was a big part of that. In his four times in the post-season, he's been good in three out of four.

He also has played pretty well in international tournaments over the years. He played at two world juniors, scoring 26 points in 12 games and he's been to six world championships, scoring 38 points in 47 games there.

The idea that he shrinks under pressure is just a stupid Edmonton belief with really no foundation. I think the Oilers are better than the Kraken and could beat them in a series, but I don't think you can rely on a Jordan Eberle no-show to be the reason why.

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Adam wrote on Tue, 11 April 2023 09:22


The idea that he shrinks under pressure is just a stupid Edmonton belief with really no foundation. I think the Oilers are better than the Kraken and could beat them in a series, but I don't think you can rely on a Jordan Eberle no-show to be the reason why.

I recall how clutch he was in the World Juniors too. I know that was forever ago, but he has it in him. His poor playoff performance with the Oilers will surely be a motivator this time around. I'm predicting a great playoffs for him.

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NetBOG wrote on Mon, 10 April 2023 21:51

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 10 April 2023 21:46

Calgary barely keeping hope alive. Barrie went full oilers with a ring around the boards to help the Lames get this game back to 2-2.

Seattle about to jump into 3rd in the division while LA plays and needs a point to take it back.

All this time thinking LA was for sure, we could end up with Seattle. That would be a very fun series.


Sweet, we've all seen Eberle choke in the playoffs. Nice if it would be for the other guys this time.


I dont have much memory for who posts what around here (especially those without profile pics) but are you the same poster who hated on Hall in every second post as well?

If not I apologize but if so, it seems you are prone to buying into the team propaganda of slandering every player that leaves Edm as the problem. It does seem to work though, there are a lot of fans who keep blaming good players that left as apposed to the consistent individuals during the worst years.

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What amuses me is that Flames fans keep going on about how they outshoot teams every time but still lose. Well, yeah. If you fire the puck from everywhere then you do tend to outshoot the opposition. I (unfortunately) remember that being an Eakins thing too. We'd consistently outshoot teams, but give up multiple grade A opportunities, thus losing the game.

Hope Sutter keeps preaching the same for next season.

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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Tue, 11 April 2023 14:42

What amuses me is that Flames fans keep going on about how they outshoot teams every time but still lose. Well, yeah. If you fire the puck from everywhere then you do tend to outshoot the opposition. I (unfortunately) remember that being an Eakins thing too. We'd consistently outshoot teams, but give up multiple grade A opportunities, thus losing the game.

Hope Sutter keeps preaching the same for next season.

I'll keep saying it until it manifests, Sutter needs a younger more energetic person on the bench next year while he focuses on generally managing. He needs DALLAS EAKINS.

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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Tue, 11 April 2023 14:42

What amuses me is that Flames fans keep going on about how they outshoot teams every time but still lose. Well, yeah. If you fire the puck from everywhere then you do tend to outshoot the opposition. I (unfortunately) remember that being an Eakins thing too. We'd consistently outshoot teams, but give up multiple grade A opportunities, thus losing the game.

Hope Sutter keeps preaching the same for next season.


This probably somewhat explains MoneyPuck's love of the Flames.

https://moneypuck.com/power.htm

Even eliminated from the playoffs, the site considers them the 4th best team in the league (they were as high as number 2 a couple of weeks ago). I think the site heavily weights shot totals in their analytics computations.

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benv wrote on Tue, 11 April 2023 14:50

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Tue, 11 April 2023 14:42

What amuses me is that Flames fans keep going on about how they outshoot teams every time but still lose. Well, yeah. If you fire the puck from everywhere then you do tend to outshoot the opposition. I (unfortunately) remember that being an Eakins thing too. We'd consistently outshoot teams, but give up multiple grade A opportunities, thus losing the game.

Hope Sutter keeps preaching the same for next season.


This probably somewhat explains MoneyPuck's love of the Flames.

https://moneypuck.com/power.htm

Even eliminated from the playoffs, the site considers them the 4th best team in the league (they were as high as number 2 a couple of weeks ago). I think the site heavily weights shot totals in their analytics computations.



Flames are #3 in the league for expected goals in all situations. Dead last in the league in SH%, 6th last in sav%.

Last year they were #1 in expected goals % in all situations. 12th in SH%, 5th in sav%.


A completely unbiased observer would likely say the Lames deserved better, but meh, I'm fine saying they just suck :)

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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 10 April 2023 21:46

Calgary barely keeping hope alive. Barrie went full oilers with a ring around the boards to help the Lames get this game back to 2-2.

Seattle about to jump into 3rd in the division while LA plays and needs a point to take it back.

All this time thinking LA was for sure, we could end up with Seattle. That would be a very fun series.


I don't think it's very possible. For the Kraken to leapfrog the Kings means they have to beat the Knights the next two games - which puts the Oilers in a pretty good spot to take the division (and likely the conference too). We'd only have to win one of the last two if the Kraken sweep the Knights here, so it's probably the Kings or the Jets as our most likely dance partners.

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Adam wrote on Tue, 11 April 2023 09:24

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 10 April 2023 21:46

Calgary barely keeping hope alive. Barrie went full oilers with a ring around the boards to help the Lames get this game back to 2-2.

Seattle about to jump into 3rd in the division while LA plays and needs a point to take it back.

All this time thinking LA was for sure, we could end up with Seattle. That would be a very fun series.


I don't think it's very possible. For the Kraken to leapfrog the Kings means they have to beat the Knights the next two games - which puts the Oilers in a pretty good spot to take the division (and likely the conference too). We'd only have to win one of the last two if the Kraken sweep the Knights here, so it's probably the Kings or the Jets as our most likely dance partners.


Bah, i missed that the Canucks just rolled over yesterday. Guess I'll take the blame since Korpisalo is against me in the Oilfans pool, so of course he gets his first SO of the year :)

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Major milestones hit yesterday

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FtZlDOBXwAAqa7u?format=jpg&name=small




McCann getting 40 goals just forgotten. Or maybe there is just something extra special about Matthews doing what many hundreds of others have done.

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Kr55 wrote on Tue, 11 April 2023 12:37

Or maybe there is just something extra special about Matthews doing what many hundreds of others have done.

Well duh, he plays for the Laffs in Toronto. That makes him special all by itself as far as SN and TSN are concerned.

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Sutter can get blood out of a stone as a coach.. but eventually the stone cracks.

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Looks like Mark Stone has been inspired by Easter and has risen.. back practicing with Vegas.. as per usual..

Vegas used over $7M of his LTIR cap hit to add to their roster during his convalescence.


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Pasta with 10 shot attempts tonight (8 shots) and 0 goals. Boston tried, but Mcdavid Rocket looking very secure now

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Preds done for the season. Impressive that they held on as long as they did given all their injuries & trades. At least they managed to do their job of knocking out the Flames before fizzling themselves.

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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Tue, 11 April 2023 21:48

Preds done for the season. Impressive that they held on as long as they did given all their injuries & trades. At least they managed to do their job of knocking out the Flames before fizzling themselves.


Far as I know, Preds as a franchise are for sale...seems like they didn't really go all in on spending the big bucks on their roster till that Weber for Subban trade in 2016...only for them to revert back to their frugal ways in 2019.

Whether they continue on the path of money ball tactics building teams good enough to scrape into the playoffs or go all in on serious contention hinges on the status of their ownership it seems.

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kungpaobenji27 wrote on Wed, 12 April 2023 17:09


Far as I know, Preds as a franchise are for sale...seems like they didn't really go all in on spending the big bucks on their roster till that Weber for Subban trade in 2016...only for them to revert back to their frugal ways in 2019.

Whether they continue on the path of money ball tactics building teams good enough to scrape into the playoffs or go all in on serious contention hinges on the status of their ownership it seems.


I heard a guy just bought a 60% interest in the Preds.. a former Tenn. governor.. at leats he knows how to grease the government wheels! .. they might start loading up in UFA season now that ownership seems settled.

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Nasty end to the Winnipeg - Minnesota game last night. Two DOPS reviews, which leave me in the end scratching my head ...

This hit from Hartman on Ehlers gets a 1-game suspension ... which may be just. But note the context - Hartman definitely interferes with Ehlers on the play, but right after Ehlers lays a VERY late hit on Kaprisov that goes unpenalized (and unmentioned by the DOPS). I think Hartman has a reasonable justification that he could have been anticipating a similarly late hit as the one that Ehlers just laid on Kaprisov - though I think Hartman was delivering payback instead.

https://www.nhl.com/video/hartman-suspended-one-game/t-27744 0360/c-16571353

Late in the period, with 30 seconds left, Pionk lays this cross-check on Johansson - https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/jets-pionk-fined-5k-for -cross-checking-wilds-johansson/ He does get a $5k fine for it - but given game history and game state, plus the viciousness of the hit (and the obvious injury it caused), I can't fathom why it's not a suspension. Yeah, he received a 5-minute major for the hit - but with 30 seconds left and a 2-goal lead, that has zero impact on the outcome of the game, and is an inconsequential penalty.

I guess it would be a rare DOPS ruling that makes perfect sense to me.

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