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 RDOilerfan
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Registered: January 2016
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I agree!! This isn't kids hockey where everyone gets a ribbon, it's pro hockey and the point is to win. So if you win, you get rewarded, if you lose, you get nothing. The fact that the winning team in OT gets only 1 more point than the loser is a joke.
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Kr55
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Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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| RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 08 December 2022 09:17 |
| Kr55 wrote on Wed, 07 December 2022 20:01 |
So, guess Thompson and Robertson are duking it out for the Hart? Stories are too compelling to care about McDavid IMO no matter what McBoring does.
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You are probably right. McD will probably score way more than 50 goals. Probably win the scoring race by 15+, he's already got an 8 pt lead now but his story won't be cool enough. It's McD, he's supposed to do that.
I looked at the standings today and it reminded me how much I HATE the loser point. You take the game to OT but lose it so here is a consolation point. It will never happen but I would love it if a team had more OT losses than wins but made the playoffs thanks to the loser point just to show the NHL how stupid it is. Go something like 32-14-36 which is 100 points and make the playoffs while losing 50 games.
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Possible that mcdavid isn't seeing another Hart unless he wins the rocket now.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Kr55
Messages: 10599
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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So red wings almost a 2:1 record. 3 years for Yzerman to clean up most of Holland's mess. Not done of course. Still waiting on his ringer goalie to develop. This while Holland just built a new mess on top of Chia's
[Updated on: Thu, 08 December 2022 10:14]
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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RDOilerfan
Messages: 3908
Registered: January 2016
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Where is the 2:1 record? They have won 13 games and lost 12.
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Kr55
Messages: 10599
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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| RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 08 December 2022 10:21 |
Where is the 2:1 record? They have won 13 games and lost 12.
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13-7. You know the ways of the Bettman point.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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CrusaderPi
Messages: 7771
Registered: December 2003
Location: AB Highway 100
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Has Dan Vladar taken the starter's job in Calgary? Is Marky Markstrom done?
Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.
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CrusaderPi
Messages: 7771
Registered: December 2003
Location: AB Highway 100
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I really like Seattle's defense. That is a group to be envious of.
Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.
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NetBOG
Messages: 2923
Registered: January 2006
Location: Parts Unknown
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Flames fans must be bewildered that the "trash team" the Little Johnny left them for beat them tonight. All I heard all summer was that Johnny left multiple cups on the table to join a team that has no chance of winning ever.
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CrusaderPi
Messages: 7771
Registered: December 2003
Location: AB Highway 100
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| NetBOG wrote on Sat, 10 December 2022 00:46 |
Flames fans must be bewildered that the "trash team" the Little Johnny left them for beat them tonight. All I heard all summer was that Johnny left multiple cups on the table to join a team that has no chance of winning ever.
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Honestly I’m bewildered whenever CBJ wins a game. That team is god awful.
Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.
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Adam
Messages: 7133
Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
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| CrusaderPi wrote on Sat, 10 December 2022 02:23 |
| NetBOG wrote on Sat, 10 December 2022 00:46 |
Flames fans must be bewildered that the "trash team" the Little Johnny left them for beat them tonight. All I heard all summer was that Johnny left multiple cups on the table to join a team that has no chance of winning ever.
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Honestly I’m bewildered whenever CBJ wins a game. That team is god awful.
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Back-to-back! They're barnstorming the Pacific now!
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks
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CrusaderPi
Messages: 7771
Registered: December 2003
Location: AB Highway 100
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| Adam wrote on Mon, 12 December 2022 10:50 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Sat, 10 December 2022 02:23 |
| NetBOG wrote on Sat, 10 December 2022 00:46 |
Flames fans must be bewildered that the "trash team" the Little Johnny left them for beat them tonight. All I heard all summer was that Johnny left multiple cups on the table to join a team that has no chance of winning ever.
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Honestly I’m bewildered whenever CBJ wins a game. That team is god awful.
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Back-to-back! They're barnstorming the Pacific now!
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Still bewildered.
But I'm happy whenever points are taken out of the Pacific. So go CBJ!
Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.
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RDOilerfan
Messages: 3908
Registered: January 2016
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I have to say the NHL scheduler really did a lousy job. Oilers play Minnie and Nash back to back Monday & Tuesday. Fly back home for 2, then go back to Nashville then Dallas. Making them fly back and forth like this is ridiculous.
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AndersonRules
Messages: 94
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In addition, our games against MIN are "back-to-back", while MIN had an in-between game against (I think) Vancouver. Strange scheduling at best. There are always these kinds of oddities, and far worse (in my estimation) for the western half of the league.
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inverno76
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The Western Conference and in particular the Pacific division get it the worst. I think the Canucks normally have the most air miles every year.
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NetBOG
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Registered: January 2006
Location: Parts Unknown
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| AndersonRules wrote on Mon, 12 December 2022 14:39 |
In addition, our games against MIN are "back-to-back", while MIN had an in-between game against (I think) Vancouver. Strange scheduling at best. There are always these kinds of oddities, and far worse (in my estimation) for the western half of the league.
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I think it's becoming less and less an issue every year. Comfy recliner in a coach to take you right on to tarmac at airport, Comfy recliner on fully catered private jet, comfy recliner on coach to 5-star hotel ......
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inverno76
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| NetBOG wrote on Mon, 12 December 2022 19:17 |
| AndersonRules wrote on Mon, 12 December 2022 14:39 |
In addition, our games against MIN are "back-to-back", while MIN had an in-between game against (I think) Vancouver. Strange scheduling at best. There are always these kinds of oddities, and far worse (in my estimation) for the western half of the league.
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I think it's becoming less and less an issue every year. Comfy recliner in a coach to take you right on to tarmac at airport, Comfy recliner on fully catered private jet, comfy recliner on coach to 5-star hotel ......
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A comfort I’ll never know, but I bank excuses like a TFSA.
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NetBOG
Messages: 2923
Registered: January 2006
Location: Parts Unknown
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Well, we may be losing, but at least we didn't lose in a shootout to the Habs.
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NZ Oiler Fan
Messages: 1174
Registered: October 2006
Location: Kensington, PEI
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| NetBOG wrote on Mon, 12 December 2022 23:19 |
Well, we may be losing, but at least we didn't lose in a shootout to the Habs.
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And the fLames pick up yet another loser point. IIRC they did this last year too. Feels like 1/3 of their pts were due to OTLs. Yet their fans will continue to whine about the Oilers resorting to the 3v3 OT "skills contest" in order to win any games.
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CrusaderPi
Messages: 7771
Registered: December 2003
Location: AB Highway 100
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Heard on TSN 1260 the cap isn't going up nearly as much as was previously hoped.
Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.
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NetBOG
Messages: 2923
Registered: January 2006
Location: Parts Unknown
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| CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 13 December 2022 10:37 |
Heard on TSN 1260 the cap isn't going up nearly as much as was previously hoped.
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Blame it on the greedy older players who refused to take a pay cut for one year. Players 3 and 4 years later still paying the price for that greed.
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NetBOG
Messages: 2923
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Location: Parts Unknown
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I think we broke Markstrom in the playoffs last year.
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Suomalainen
Messages: 895
Registered: May 2002
Location: Boulder, CO
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I wonder if we broke Darryl :D
Damn loser points keeping the Flames in it ;)
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oilfan94
Messages: 393
Registered: June 2006
Location: USA
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When I lived in Phoenix I would go to Oilers games for about $20-25 a ticket (this was only about 5 years ago). Oilers games there would have about 50% Oilers fans in the stands and you'd get some good Let's Go Oilers chants going. I was standing in line at one of the games chatting with another person in an Oilers jersey he he was telling me that it was cheaper for him to fly down to Phoenix and go to the game than it was for him to go to the game in Edmonton. I realized then that I will probably never go to another game in Edmonton (went to one game in 2009), since to get there is already a big cost, and the tickets are insane on top of that. If I ever want to see a BOA I would probably go to Calgary since the price to get there and the tickets are themselves are cheaper.
Now I live in an ECHL market, so it's pretty unlikely I will go to any NHL games any time soon, but those Panthers prices might be tempting if I take a trip to Florida someday.
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NetBOG
Messages: 2923
Registered: January 2006
Location: Parts Unknown
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According to ESPN, the league is looking at expanding to an 84 game season. Reportedly the reason to do it is to make the schedule equal at least within the division.
https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/35265273/sources-nhl-con sidering-84-game-regular-season-schedule
84 game schedule would be:
2 games vs each team in other conference - 2*16 = 32
3 games vs each team in other division in conference 3*8 = 24
4 games vs each team in division = 4*7 = 28
32 +24 + 28 = 84
My preference would be an 83 game season with only two games vs each team in other division in conference and five games vs each division opponent. That would help regional rivalries.
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Kr55
Messages: 10599
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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Saw that gagner would be #6 in points among Oilers forwards (5 right now with Kane out). What are we even doing with this team?
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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CrusaderPi
Messages: 7771
Registered: December 2003
Location: AB Highway 100
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I think it's the Oilers' horrible management creating a situation where coaches are forced to over rely on the stars and depth players continually perform poorly because of a self fulfilling prophecy. I don't think Gagner would be 5th in scoring if he signed with the Oilers.
Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.
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Kr55
Messages: 10599
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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| CrusaderPi wrote on Sun, 18 December 2022 10:25 |
I think it's the Oilers' horrible management creating a situation where coaches are forced to over rely on the stars and depth players continually perform poorly because of a self fulfilling prophecy. I don't think Gagner would be 5th in scoring if he signed with the Oilers.
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Was going to comment the same, he likely wouldn't be here. But, why not? He is playing around 12 mins a game with mediocre players and 2nd pp unit. Lots of guys do that here. Why does the reliance on a few guys mean everyone else has to be trash? We got away from that for a little while last year. Now it's like McLellan and tippett never left.
There is something in the water here for sure. But it is of our doing. Oilers have the plumbing set up so the toilet water goes straight back up the faucets.
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"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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CrusaderPi
Messages: 7771
Registered: December 2003
Location: AB Highway 100
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The stars eat up all the prime opportunities because the tipping point between a win a loss is so fine. The coach simply can’t waste Cherry time getting the other players going.
Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.
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Kr55
Messages: 10599
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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| CrusaderPi wrote on Sun, 18 December 2022 11:45 |
The stars eat up all the prime opportunities because the tipping point between a win a loss is so fine. The coach simply can’t waste Cherry time getting the other players going.
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I think we have played McDrai against the best forwards and D for a long time. So much lower end competition for our depth guys to play against. Don't think Gagner is getting any better opportunity to try to create offense in Winnipeg than he would be getting here
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Adam
Messages: 7133
Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
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| Kr55 wrote on Sun, 18 December 2022 12:40 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Sun, 18 December 2022 11:45 |
The stars eat up all the prime opportunities because the tipping point between a win a loss is so fine. The coach simply can’t waste Cherry time getting the other players going.
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I think we have played McDrai against the best forwards and D for a long time. So much lower end competition for our depth guys to play against. Don't think Gagner is getting any better opportunity to try to create offense in Winnipeg than he would be getting here
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It's the biggest question - how come no depth player can be successful here?
It's been several years now of the same thing with different coaches. They play the wheels off the big guys and no one else pisses a drop of offence, and usually the depth gets outscored so badly that the big guys gains are almost all wiped out.
Some systems maybe, some risk avoidance with all the depth players. Personnel is definitely an issue - we tend to prefer to always have a Shore or Malone in the lineup, which just is dead weight. But I tend to think some of it is still the same have and have-not culture that the team has instilled since the Hall draft. They believe in core and non-core team members, and the interchangeable non-core guys don't feel the same level of responsibility to team success. I think there's likely some level of lack of inclusivity for some of the guys around the edges too.
The team has failed to build a winning culture for so long, is it really any wonder at this point? They have no idea how to do so.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks
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NetBOG
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Location: Parts Unknown
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Flames playing back-to-back games in SJ. Haven't seen that in NHL outside North Division year. I know NBA moved to more of that this year. Not sure how that effects outcomes.
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Kr55
Messages: 10599
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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Just saw that Crosby and OV both have 1452 regular season points (Crosby in less games). Impressive career rivalry.
Mcdavid will likely always leave Matthews way back in the dust in points. Has 50% more in 20% more games played
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"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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nullterm
Messages: 1007
Registered: July 2007
Location: Port Moody, BC
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J.T. Miller...
I'm used to despising Canucks players.
I'm not used to Canucks fans agreeing with me.
Illegitimi non carborundum.
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Kr55
Messages: 10599
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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| nullterm wrote on Wed, 04 January 2023 16:51 |
J.T. Miller...
I'm used to despising Canucks players.
I'm not used to Canucks fans agreeing with me.
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Love the reputation he's been building as a total ass :)
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Adam
Messages: 7133
Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
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| Kr55 wrote on Wed, 04 January 2023 17:27 |
| nullterm wrote on Wed, 04 January 2023 16:51 |
J.T. Miller...
I'm used to despising Canucks players.
I'm not used to Canucks fans agreeing with me.
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Love the reputation he's been building as a total ass :)
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That clip of him screaming at the rookie goalie was something else...
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks
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inverno76
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I was scanning through tonight’s scoresheets and was looking at how impressive Rantenen’s number and then I realized he was one back of the Nuge this season.
I often forget how unbelievable the offence this top 6 possesses and I guess that’s why us fans get super down when we are struggling.
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NetBOG
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Location: Parts Unknown
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Once again the Flames get a team the Oilers played to night before, playing their backup (admittedly Varlamov is a pretty good #2). Just working the Isles over through the first period.
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CrusaderPi
Messages: 7771
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Location: AB Highway 100
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Tage Thompson getting MVP chants in Buffalo after his 31st goal of the season.
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Babaganoosh2.0
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Location: Southern AB
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| CrusaderPi wrote on Sat, 07 January 2023 18:24 |
Tage Thompson getting MVP chants in Buffalo after his 31st goal of the season.
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I'm sure he has a shot. Can't wait to see the mental gymnastics of the PHWA justifying why McDavid doesn't deserve it.
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