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 Pulju assigned to Bakersfield [message #699361]
Sun, 01 October 2017 12:31 Go to next message
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More development required. I'm guessing he's back after Yamo's 9-game is over.

I haven't been inspired by Drake this preseason, so kind of surprised that they didn't send him down for a wake up call.

https://www.nhl.com/oilers/news/blog-puljujarvi-assigned-to- bakersfield/c-291500230?tid=281885062



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 Re: Pulju assigned to Bakersfield [message #699362 is a reply to message #699361 ]
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HamBlaster wrote on Sun, 01 October 2017 12:31

More development required. I'm guessing he's back after Yamo's 9-game is over.

I haven't been inspired by Drake this preseason, so kind of surprised that they didn't send him down for a wake up call.

https://www.nhl.com/oilers/news/blog-puljujarvi-assigned-to- bakersfield/c-291500230?tid=281885062


The Oilers have some significant weakness in the lineup that hasn't been addressed. Defence hasn't looked particularly good after the first pair, and winger depth is a particular problem.

There seems to be a high hope that Caggiula or Slepyshev is going to take a big step forward, but there's little in their performance at other levels that should lead anyone to believe they're going to be big point providers at the NHL level. Puljujarvi and Yamamoto are both very young. Yamamoto is also tiny, and we have to hope that he manages to avoid getting welcomed to the NHL by some snarly defenceman in any ugly way. I think there's a significant risk in keeping him up, but again, the Oilers have not provided the team with much depth to keep a player like that out on the back of a decent camp.

There's a single decision left to make now - who is the 14th forward. I don't see any reason to use up another contract spot for Kelly so he can sit in the press box most nights. Pakarinen can fill that role just fine and Kelly doesn't address either of the glaring weaknesses with the roster. That contract spot is too valuable to spend that way. Assuming the Oilers come to the same conclusion, we have our roster set for opening night now. For what it's worth, I'm guessing that Chiarelli likes his guy in Kelly more, but is trying fruitlessly to find a taker for Pakarinen if he's waived. Not likely to happen, so Kelly will be sent packing. Pray that he isn't the replacement when Yamamoto gets sent to junior.



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 Re: Pulju assigned to Bakersfield [message #699367 is a reply to message #699361 ]
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So, Yamamoto puts us at 49 contracts if he sticks.

Hope we don't end up signing Kelly, because that's 50/50, and Chia has to pay extra for guys to take contracts off our hands if he wants to add anyone.



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 Re: Pulju assigned to Bakersfield [message #699369 is a reply to message #699367 ]
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I don't have a problem with Puljujarvi going down for some more development. I am a believer in him and he is so young. The biggest thing for me is if he was a Canadian kid and he was going back to junior because he wasn't quite ready, very few would bat an eye at it. The fact that he isn't Canadian and he can go play pro hockey against adults is great.


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 Re: Pulju assigned to Bakersfield [message #699411 is a reply to message #699361 ]
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Seems like a great time to offer Jagr 1 one year deal. Won't happen, but just sayin'.


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jds308 wrote on Mon, 02 October 2017 13:36

Seems like a great time to offer Jagr 1 one year deal. Won't happen, but just sayin'.


You were probably really sad when you flipped over to the NHL forum after this post...



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Adam wrote on Mon, 02 October 2017 13:02

jds308 wrote on Mon, 02 October 2017 13:36

Seems like a great time to offer Jagr 1 one year deal. Won't happen, but just sayin'.


You were probably really sad when you flipped over to the NHL forum after this post...


Not so much sad as it was fairly expected, more just disappointed that I decided to post about this when I did. I wonder if Chia was also in the dark about Jagr.....



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 Re: Pulju assigned to Bakersfield [message #699422 is a reply to message #699421 ]
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jds308 wrote on Mon, 02 October 2017 17:16

Adam wrote on Mon, 02 October 2017 13:02

jds308 wrote on Mon, 02 October 2017 13:36

Seems like a great time to offer Jagr 1 one year deal. Won't happen, but just sayin'.


You were probably really sad when you flipped over to the NHL forum after this post...


Not so much sad as it was fairly expected, more just disappointed that I decided to post about this when I did. I wonder if Chia was also in the dark about Jagr.....


According to Chiarelli in discussion with Jason Gregor today, they were never interested in Jagr. Also not interested in Iginla, for those wondering.

Apparently, comfortable with the roster as is for the time being. Defence seen as a bigger issue than right wing (although if we hadn't hired every career minor league player available to a two way deal, we'd have more contract room to bring in a right winger AND address defence if needed).

Biggest question on defence for me is how long is Sekera out. Gryba in the starting six every night is a major concern (although maybe less so for the management who gave him a two year deal).




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 Re: Pulju assigned to Bakersfield [message #699435 is a reply to message #699422 ]
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I am of the opinion that you win by building down the middle and on defense. When you have 2 elite centers, wingers are way less important.

I would like to see the Oilers pick up another dman. I don't mind Gryba as a 6-7 dman where he plays maybe half the games like he did last year but not full time. From everything I have read about Auvitu, he skates well, moves the puck well, shows some offensive instincts but is a complete s-show in his own end.



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 Re: Pulju assigned to Bakersfield [message #699437 is a reply to message #699435 ]
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RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 03 October 2017 08:17

I am of the opinion that you win by building down the middle and on defense. When you have 2 elite centers, wingers are way less important.

I would like to see the Oilers pick up another dman. I don't mind Gryba as a 6-7 dman where he plays maybe half the games like he did last year but not full time. From everything I have read about Auvitu, he skates well, moves the puck well, shows some offensive instincts but is a complete s-show in his own end.


Definitely agree on building down the middle and getting a solid top 4 D group with an elite high end.

Most important thing with wingers is chemistry with your C's. You need to find wingers that compliment them, and the nice thing about that is that if you really do understand the play style of your elite C's and the winger skill sets that will best work with them, it starts to get a lot easier to keep a rotation of wingers with those guys that keeps costs down.

But, if recent cup winners, even just the runners up are any example, I think you need to keep at least 1 elite level winger around that can move up and down your lineup. We kinda traded away 1 of those guys to try to fix our disaster D (rumoured locker room issues notwithstanding), and a more borderline version of that player (obviously disregarding his recent example of how he would perform in the playoffs, lol) for Strome. Chia is banking on Yamamoto and/or Pulju becoming that guy for us. Right now though, neither are ready to carry that kind of load. Really think we needed a stopgap to be able to bring all our young wingers along more slowly.

Top 4 D is unfortunately missing that top end RHD, and we're locked in with Russell for at least a couple years now. We definitely need to add someone to displace Gryba, but as Adam pointed out, management clearly sees Gryba as a solid 6th guy option (puke).


God I hope Pulju figures his game out in the next month or so. He showed great signs in camp I thought, but still inconsistent. One game he's actually initiating contact to try to battle for pucks, the next he's reaching for everything being a non-factor.

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 Re: Pulju assigned to Bakersfield [message #699440 is a reply to message #699437 ]
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Kr55 wrote on Tue, 03 October 2017 08:49

RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 03 October 2017 08:17

I am of the opinion that you win by building down the middle and on defense. When you have 2 elite centers, wingers are way less important.

I would like to see the Oilers pick up another dman. I don't mind Gryba as a 6-7 dman where he plays maybe half the games like he did last year but not full time. From everything I have read about Auvitu, he skates well, moves the puck well, shows some offensive instincts but is a complete s-show in his own end.


Definitely agree on building down the middle and getting a solid top 4 D group with an elite high end.

Most important thing with wingers is chemistry with your C's. You need to find wingers that compliment them, and the nice thing about that is that if you really do understand the play style of your elite C's and the winger skill sets that will best work with them, it starts to get a lot easier to keep a rotation of wingers with those guys that keeps costs down.

But, if recent cup winners, even just the runners up are any example, I think you need to keep at least 1 elite level winger around that can move up and down your lineup. We kinda traded away 1 of those guys to try to fix our disaster D (rumoured locker room issues notwithstanding), and a more borderline version of that player for Strome. Chia is banking on Yamamoto and/or Pulju becoming that guy for us. Right now though, neither are ready to carry that kind of load. Really think we needed a stopgap to be able to bring all our young wingers along more slowly.

Top 4 D is unfortunately missing that top end RHD, and we're locked in with Russell for at least a couple years now. We definitely need to add someone to displace Gryba, but as Adam pointed out, management clearly sees Gryba as a solid 6th guy option (puke).


God I hope Pulju figures his game out in the next month or so. He showed great signs in camp I thought, but still inconsistent. One game he's actually initiating contact to try to battle for pucks, the next he's reaching for everything being a non-factor.


I am not going to go into a ton of detail on the past trades. I have done that, debated them, argued about them many times. All I will say about the Hall trade was it addressed 2 needs. #1 to get a good right shot dman, #2 to get him out off the Oilers. I am of the opinion that Hall needed to go for the Oilers to take a step. The Eberle trade I believe was part to shed salary and part because the coach flat out wanted him gone. He had coached against him for many years, so he had a good idea about his warts but you don't truly know until you see and coach him. He coached him the first year, probably saw the warts up close, didn't like what he saw but tried to work with him. Plus I don't think you could trade both Hall AND Eberle in one offseason. Second season comes around. The warts aren't any better. He wasn't overly great on McDavid's wing and he pissed away his first unit PP spot. As the season goes along, the warts didn't get any better, his season wasn't great then he makes it to the playoffs, something he's supposedly been dying to get into so maybe he can be salvaged. Nope, he and Pouliot battled it out for being the worst players on the Oilers in the playoffs and even contributed to losing games with his mistakes. So I think McLellan was done with him.



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