"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

[Updated on: Thu, 26 October 2023 09:03]

Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.

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CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 30 January 2020 12:21

und(i)sputed O.L.F.N Heavybra(i)n Champ(i)on of the Woooooooooooooooooorld. Plus. One.

Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.

Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 26 October 2023 12:04

If I ever find myself feeling too positive, I just come to this site and it takes care of that. Yikes!

It is funny, for sure :)

but also sad. I mean, wasting the career of a once in a decade player, and the owner paying probably $100M so far to a bunch of dopes to do it ... it is pretty unfortunate.

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 26 October 2023 11:36

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 26 October 2023 12:04 If I ever find myself feeling too positive, I just come to this site and it takes care of that. Yikes! It is funny, for sure :) but also sad. I mean, wasting the career of a once in a decade player, and the owner paying probably $100M so far to a bunch of dopes to do it ... it is pretty unfortunate.

Katz, the ultimate sunk cost believer.

Illegitimi non carborundum.

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 26 October 2023 13:24

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 26 October 2023 12:36 RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 26 October 2023 12:04 If I ever find myself feeling too positive, I just come to this site and it takes care of that. Yikes! It is funny, for sure :) but also sad. I mean, wasting the career of a once in a decade player, and the owner paying probably $100M so far to a bunch of dopes to do it ... it is pretty unfortunate. You bet. Might as well start selling off now. Get what you can now while they still have value. Burn it down. Start over. Waive who you can, call up as many from Bako as you can. Go for last. We are done.

Would you trust these people to do that?

Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 26 October 2023 13:41

CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 26 October 2023 13:26 RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 26 October 2023 13:24 Kr55 wrote on Thu, 26 October 2023 12:36 RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 26 October 2023 12:04 If I ever find myself feeling too positive, I just come to this site and it takes care of that. Yikes! It is funny, for sure :) but also sad. I mean, wasting the career of a once in a decade player, and the owner paying probably $100M so far to a bunch of dopes to do it ... it is pretty unfortunate. You bet. Might as well start selling off now. Get what you can now while they still have value. Burn it down. Start over. Waive who you can, call up as many from Bako as you can. Go for last. We are done. Would you trust these people to do that? Good point. Probably best to forfeit the season. That way all the players are 100% healthy so you get full value. Plus it lets you fire everyone right now. All you need is a few people to answer the phones and pay the bills. Or Should they just fire the secretaries as well. Something has to be their fault. So fire them too.

You say that like it hasn't been done already.

Don't panic RDO, it's only 6 games into the season. The defense and goaltending might still fix itself. Who knows, maybe they'll get lucky with some injuries.

Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 26 October 2023 14:46

CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 26 October 2023 13:52 RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 26 October 2023 13:41 CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 26 October 2023 13:26 RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 26 October 2023 13:24 Kr55 wrote on Thu, 26 October 2023 12:36 RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 26 October 2023 12:04 If I ever find myself feeling too positive, I just come to this site and it takes care of that. Yikes! It is funny, for sure :) but also sad. I mean, wasting the career of a once in a decade player, and the owner paying probably $100M so far to a bunch of dopes to do it ... it is pretty unfortunate. You bet. Might as well start selling off now. Get what you can now while they still have value. Burn it down. Start over. Waive who you can, call up as many from Bako as you can. Go for last. We are done. Would you trust these people to do that? Good point. Probably best to forfeit the season. That way all the players are 100% healthy so you get full value. Plus it lets you fire everyone right now. All you need is a few people to answer the phones and pay the bills. Or Should they just fire the secretaries as well. Something has to be their fault. So fire them too. You say that like it hasn't been done already. Don't panic RDO, it's only 6 games into the season. The defense and goaltending might still fix itself. Who knows, maybe they'll get lucky with some injuries. It's over man. You were saying months ago they weren't good enough and should start dumping players. I think you suggested they trade Leon if I am not mistaken.

I said trading Leon was a subject that should be discussed and considered because the team wasn't well constructed.

Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.

Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.

[Updated on: Thu, 26 October 2023 15:41]

"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireLowe #FireBobbyNicks #FireKenHolland #FireKeithGretzky

Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 26 October 2023 13:24

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 26 October 2023 12:36 RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 26 October 2023 12:04 If I ever find myself feeling too positive, I just come to this site and it takes care of that. Yikes! It is funny, for sure :) but also sad. I mean, wasting the career of a once in a decade player, and the owner paying probably $100M so far to a bunch of dopes to do it ... it is pretty unfortunate. You bet. Might as well start selling off now. Get what you can now while they still have value. Burn it down. Start over. Waive who you can, call up as many from Bako as you can. Go for last. We are done.

We still have 2 of the best in the game. Crazy things have happened in hockey. That is where the hope can derive from, for anyone that needs a little.

Can still call out management for what they have been, terrible, complete waste of money. They make the wall our top players have to climb to get close to a cup as high as any management team in the league could have. Here were are, cheering on McDrai to climb! CLIMB BOYS! Climb that wall our terrible management put in your way!!! please don't leave in 1-2 years :(

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 26 October 2023 14:54

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 26 October 2023 13:24 Kr55 wrote on Thu, 26 October 2023 12:36 RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 26 October 2023 12:04 If I ever find myself feeling too positive, I just come to this site and it takes care of that. Yikes! It is funny, for sure :) but also sad. I mean, wasting the career of a once in a decade player, and the owner paying probably $100M so far to a bunch of dopes to do it ... it is pretty unfortunate. You bet. Might as well start selling off now. Get what you can now while they still have value. Burn it down. Start over. Waive who you can, call up as many from Bako as you can. Go for last. We are done. We still have 2 of the best in the game. Crazy things have happened in hockey. That is where the hope can derive from, for anyone that needs a little. Can still call out management for what they have been, terrible, complete waste of money. They make the wall our top players have to climb to get close to a cup as high as any management team in the league could have. Here were are, cheering on McDrai to climb! CLIMB BOYS! Climb that wall our terrible management put in your way!!! please don't leave in 1-2 years :(

Sorry for the earlier spam post - this replaces it. I've been having trouble posting sometimes lately, with an error message popping up. I've been trying to decide if it's an issue with the site or with my employer's web defences.

With regards to management, I don't know why anyone would look at Holland's time here with anything but a critical eye. He's literally been the highest paid GM in the league, and had the best player and another that's in the top 5 and he's completely failed to build around them. He's been good at providing excuses - his predecessor's mistakes took a long time to disappear, he didn't think the team was ready to "go for it", "what do you want me to do, get him for nothing?", he really thought the cap was going to just go up and when it didn't his hands were tied...

The goaltending is no better than when he arrived, and the stats suggest it's actually worse:

Quote:

Greg Wyshynski @wyshynski Oct 25 One stat that really stands out in this early season @EdmontonOilers disaster: * EDM is 11th in preventing high-danger shot attempts (5v5) * EDM is 32nd(!) in high-danger save% with Skinner and Campbell combining for an unfathomable .605 sv% -- the only team under .700

Defence and depth remain weak spots. Really, the top end forwards on the team are the only thing that is a real strength, and the most important guys are the ones we already had. If you want to congratulate him for Hyman and Ekholm, and to a lesser extent Kane, well, fair enough - although it's been five years. FIVE YEARS. If that's the sum total of the positives? Maybe that's what is actually making RDOF blue.

I will say though, I highly doubt RDOF has ever been "feeling too positive" other than maybe when he's gloating about departed players who are having any kind of career issues.

[Updated on: Thu, 26 October 2023 15:14]

"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireLowe #FireBobbyNicks #FireKenHolland #FireKeithGretzky

"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireLowe #FireBobbyNicks #FireKenHolland #FireKeithGretzky

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.