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From Elliotte Friedman's 32 thoughts blog:

https://www.sportsnet.ca/article/32-thoughts-taking-a-look-a round-the-nhl-trade-market/

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5. Paul Coffey remained around the Oilers for Monday’s Battle of Alberta. Loves and knows his hockey. Again, we’re told nothing formal, but I’m curious to see where this goes.


Oh god...



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It's been a few days since Oilers fans had a reason to completely melt down again, so this should help. icon_lol


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RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 09 March 2022 12:01

It's been a few days since Oilers fans had a reason to completely melt down again, so this should help. icon_lol

Don't worry, they play nearly every second night for the rest of the season.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 09 March 2022 12:54

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 09 March 2022 12:01

It's been a few days since Oilers fans had a reason to completely melt down again, so this should help. icon_lol

Don't worry, they play nearly every second night for the rest of the season.


Hey, we've been saying that the management team wasn't good enough. If the team adds a HALL OF FAMER like Paul Coffey with MULTIPLE CUP RINGS can we really complain that they're not doing enough?



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Get that resume ready Woodcroft!


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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 09 March 2022 16:00

Get that resume ready Woodcroft!


Maybe Woodcroft asked for Coffey? After all, they worked together on that same coaching staff for McLellan on the odd days that Paul showed up and didn't just hang in the office with Kevin and Wayne.



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Adam wrote on Wed, 09 March 2022 17:28

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 09 March 2022 16:00

Get that resume ready Woodcroft!


Maybe Woodcroft asked for Coffey? After all, they worked together on that same coaching staff for McLellan on the odd days that Paul showed up and didn't just hang in the office with Kevin and Wayne.

I was wondering the same thing. The Oilers PP looked good last night but before that looked like it couldn't score on an empty net. Perhaps he asked Coffey who would have 20 yrs of experience being on a PP to take a look at a few games to see what he could see and get a perspective from someone outside of the team. As an alumni, the Oilers could probably get him to do that as a favor and just pay for his travel, lodgings and maybe a small fee vs having to bring in an outside guy who they would have to sign and commit too.

I am not advocating for another ex player to get a job but if you have resources at your disposal, they should be using them. I listened to Brian Laylor on Stauffers show yesterday and he made the point that the Oilers as a high revenue team should be using that to their advantage and spending more money on hockey ops/analytics/scouting/everything other than players side that some other teams aren't allowed too. They can't control where they are in the world that makes it hard to sign certain players but they can spend more that other teams to find players. If they aren't, they sure as hell need to start.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 10 March 2022 08:19

Adam wrote on Wed, 09 March 2022 17:28

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 09 March 2022 16:00

Get that resume ready Woodcroft!


Maybe Woodcroft asked for Coffey? After all, they worked together on that same coaching staff for McLellan on the odd days that Paul showed up and didn't just hang in the office with Kevin and Wayne.

I was wondering the same thing. The Oilers PP looked good last night but before that looked like it couldn't score on an empty net. Perhaps he asked Coffey who would have 20 yrs of experience being on a PP to take a look at a few games to see what he could see and get a perspective from someone outside of the team. As an alumni, the Oilers could probably get him to do that as a favor and just pay for his travel, lodgings and maybe a small fee vs having to bring in an outside guy who they would have to sign and commit too.

I am not advocating for another ex player to get a job but if you have resources at your disposal, they should be using them. I listened to Brian Laylor on Stauffers show yesterday and he made the point that the Oilers as a high revenue team should be using that to their advantage and spending more money on hockey ops/analytics/scouting/everything other than players side that some other teams aren't allowed too. They can't control where they are in the world that makes it hard to sign certain players but they can spend more that other teams to find players. If they aren't, they sure as hell need to start.


Maybe we should try to get people that have actually done something in the last couple decades in high level coaching? Most players end up being awful coaches, especially elite players, for whatever reason. hard to relate to the less talented maybe.

Loads of smart people out there just looking for an opportunity, I bet many that would do a way better job than adding another tired old boys club member looking to milk Katz for another inflated salary. What did Coffey make last time he was here to do some phone calls once a week while living out East? 500k? That Katz sure is easy money for these guys.



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Kr55 wrote on Thu, 10 March 2022 08:54

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 10 March 2022 08:19

Adam wrote on Wed, 09 March 2022 17:28

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 09 March 2022 16:00

Get that resume ready Woodcroft!


Maybe Woodcroft asked for Coffey? After all, they worked together on that same coaching staff for McLellan on the odd days that Paul showed up and didn't just hang in the office with Kevin and Wayne.

I was wondering the same thing. The Oilers PP looked good last night but before that looked like it couldn't score on an empty net. Perhaps he asked Coffey who would have 20 yrs of experience being on a PP to take a look at a few games to see what he could see and get a perspective from someone outside of the team. As an alumni, the Oilers could probably get him to do that as a favor and just pay for his travel, lodgings and maybe a small fee vs having to bring in an outside guy who they would have to sign and commit too.

I am not advocating for another ex player to get a job but if you have resources at your disposal, they should be using them. I listened to Brian Laylor on Stauffers show yesterday and he made the point that the Oilers as a high revenue team should be using that to their advantage and spending more money on hockey ops/analytics/scouting/everything other than players side that some other teams aren't allowed too. They can't control where they are in the world that makes it hard to sign certain players but they can spend more that other teams to find players. If they aren't, they sure as hell need to start.


Maybe we should try to get people that have actually done something in the last couple decades in high level coaching? Most players end up being awful coaches, especially elite players, for whatever reason. hard to relate to the less talented maybe.

Loads of smart people out there just looking for an opportunity, I bet many that would do a way better job than adding another tired old boys club member looking to milk Katz for another inflated salary. What did Coffey make last time he was here to do some phone calls once a week while living out East? 500k? That Katz sure is easy money for these guys.

I 100% agree. I am not looking to hire him. But does it hurt to utilize a resource for a couple of days to get an opinion?

If Coffey never played a single game for the Oilers in his life, would you care? I bet not.



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Kr55 wrote on Thu, 10 March 2022 08:54

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 10 March 2022 08:19

Adam wrote on Wed, 09 March 2022 17:28

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 09 March 2022 16:00

Get that resume ready Woodcroft!


Maybe Woodcroft asked for Coffey? After all, they worked together on that same coaching staff for McLellan on the odd days that Paul showed up and didn't just hang in the office with Kevin and Wayne.

I was wondering the same thing. The Oilers PP looked good last night but before that looked like it couldn't score on an empty net. Perhaps he asked Coffey who would have 20 yrs of experience being on a PP to take a look at a few games to see what he could see and get a perspective from someone outside of the team. As an alumni, the Oilers could probably get him to do that as a favor and just pay for his travel, lodgings and maybe a small fee vs having to bring in an outside guy who they would have to sign and commit too.

I am not advocating for another ex player to get a job but if you have resources at your disposal, they should be using them. I listened to Brian Laylor on Stauffers show yesterday and he made the point that the Oilers as a high revenue team should be using that to their advantage and spending more money on hockey ops/analytics/scouting/everything other than players side that some other teams aren't allowed too. They can't control where they are in the world that makes it hard to sign certain players but they can spend more that other teams to find players. If they aren't, they sure as hell need to start.


Maybe we should try to get people that have actually done something in the last couple decades in high level coaching? Most players end up being awful coaches, especially elite players, for whatever reason. hard to relate to the less talented maybe.

Loads of smart people out there just looking for an opportunity, I bet many that would do a way better job than adding another tired old boys club member looking to milk Katz for another inflated salary. What did Coffey make last time he was here to do some phone calls once a week while living out East? 500k? That Katz sure is easy money for these guys.


Not advocating for Coffey, but there has been a lot of great coaches who came up as former star players. Without putting much effort into my list Darryl Sutter, Larry Robinson, Brind'Amour, St. Louis (small sample size), Gallant and Brunette come to mind.

I recently saw that only 6 out of the current 32 head coaches had no NHL playing experience. We rightfully so have been tainted by the OBC and Hockey Canada alumni. PTSD is real.



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inverno76 wrote on Thu, 10 March 2022 11:35

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 10 March 2022 08:54

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 10 March 2022 08:19

Adam wrote on Wed, 09 March 2022 17:28

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 09 March 2022 16:00

Get that resume ready Woodcroft!


Maybe Woodcroft asked for Coffey? After all, they worked together on that same coaching staff for McLellan on the odd days that Paul showed up and didn't just hang in the office with Kevin and Wayne.

I was wondering the same thing. The Oilers PP looked good last night but before that looked like it couldn't score on an empty net. Perhaps he asked Coffey who would have 20 yrs of experience being on a PP to take a look at a few games to see what he could see and get a perspective from someone outside of the team. As an alumni, the Oilers could probably get him to do that as a favor and just pay for his travel, lodgings and maybe a small fee vs having to bring in an outside guy who they would have to sign and commit too.

I am not advocating for another ex player to get a job but if you have resources at your disposal, they should be using them. I listened to Brian Laylor on Stauffers show yesterday and he made the point that the Oilers as a high revenue team should be using that to their advantage and spending more money on hockey ops/analytics/scouting/everything other than players side that some other teams aren't allowed too. They can't control where they are in the world that makes it hard to sign certain players but they can spend more that other teams to find players. If they aren't, they sure as hell need to start.


Maybe we should try to get people that have actually done something in the last couple decades in high level coaching? Most players end up being awful coaches, especially elite players, for whatever reason. hard to relate to the less talented maybe.

Loads of smart people out there just looking for an opportunity, I bet many that would do a way better job than adding another tired old boys club member looking to milk Katz for another inflated salary. What did Coffey make last time he was here to do some phone calls once a week while living out East? 500k? That Katz sure is easy money for these guys.


Not advocating for Coffey, but there has been a lot of great coaches who came up as former star players. Without putting much effort into my list Darryl Sutter, Larry Robinson, Brind'Amour, St. Louis (small sample size), Gallant and Brunette come to mind.

I recently saw that only 6 out of the current 32 head coaches had no NHL playing experience. We rightfully so have been tainted by the OBC and Hockey Canada alumni. PTSD is real.



I'm probably defaulting to Gretzky too much every time I think about a former star being a coach :) Definitely agree there have been some examples of great success still, some with a bit of luck falling into an amazing lineup to coach, but some not like Sutter. The best of the best seem to be those guys that struggled in their playing careers, always having to figure out a way to contribute to try to take one more step up, or people that are just plain old super smart, which is likely the major factor in the results of all these guys, ex-star or not.

My gripe is mainly just the usual. Annoyed at the idea this org just decides by default the best option is a friend of Lowe's. Zero effort to actually try to find the best person out there. And we already got a taste of what a waste of money Coffey can be. 500k to chat with players once a week, if that, usually on the phone. Come on, lol. And even though the management money is unlimited, the feeling that we filled a huge gap in the org just by bringing Coffey just adds to the false sense of confidence throughout the org, that Lowe is famous for, that they have done all they can, and any failure is simply the fault of the players.



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Kr55 wrote on Thu, 10 March 2022 08:54

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 10 March 2022 08:19

Adam wrote on Wed, 09 March 2022 17:28

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 09 March 2022 16:00

Get that resume ready Woodcroft!


Maybe Woodcroft asked for Coffey? After all, they worked together on that same coaching staff for McLellan on the odd days that Paul showed up and didn't just hang in the office with Kevin and Wayne.

I was wondering the same thing. The Oilers PP looked good last night but before that looked like it couldn't score on an empty net. Perhaps he asked Coffey who would have 20 yrs of experience being on a PP to take a look at a few games to see what he could see and get a perspective from someone outside of the team. As an alumni, the Oilers could probably get him to do that as a favor and just pay for his travel, lodgings and maybe a small fee vs having to bring in an outside guy who they would have to sign and commit too.

I am not advocating for another ex player to get a job but if you have resources at your disposal, they should be using them. I listened to Brian Laylor on Stauffers show yesterday and he made the point that the Oilers as a high revenue team should be using that to their advantage and spending more money on hockey ops/analytics/scouting/everything other than players side that some other teams aren't allowed too. They can't control where they are in the world that makes it hard to sign certain players but they can spend more that other teams to find players. If they aren't, they sure as hell need to start.


Maybe we should try to get people that have actually done something in the last couple decades in high level coaching? Most players end up being awful coaches, especially elite players, for whatever reason. hard to relate to the less talented maybe.

Loads of smart people out there just looking for an opportunity, I bet many that would do a way better job than adding another tired old boys club member looking to milk Katz for another inflated salary. What did Coffey make last time he was here to do some phone calls once a week while living out East? 500k? That Katz sure is easy money for these guys.


I should be clear, I was being completely tongue in cheek. Coffey's last tenure here was a bit of a mess, and the relationship with the other coaches was so strained that McLellan went and gave an "anonymous" interview to Spector outlining how little Coffey actually showed up for work and some of the tensions that existed there.

I am all for adding resources that help, but this organization has had a serious nepotism issue for ages, and getting random input from other old pals of Kevin Lowe looks like something more along that line than it does getting the best people to change up the echo chamber that is our management team.

Coffey's history as a coach/manager post playing career is: Special teams coach for a brief time with Gretzky's not-so-good Coyotes teams, then head coach of an OJHL team, until he was fired for using a slur towards a player, and then a few weeks as a part-time coach for the Oilers. Loved the player, but I don't think he's the best option the team could hire as a consultant.



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I listened to that hit as well, and its painfully obvious that is what should be happening...

BUT...

...when they did have an analytics guy he was ignored. Now we're playing catch up, because most of the other teams have been doing this for years and they've built up the IP.

Sure we can buy that expertise, but we still have to empower it. Unfortunately that day likely doesn't come until Katz Jr takes over from daddy.




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Rutuu wrote on Mon, 14 March 2022 20:07

I listened to that hit as well, and its painfully obvious that is what should be happening...

BUT...

...when they did have an analytics guy he was ignored. Now we're playing catch up, because most of the other teams have been doing this for years and they've built up the IP.

Sure we can buy that expertise, but we still have to empower it. Unfortunately that day likely doesn't come until Katz Jr takes over from daddy.




What??? You don't think Holland, Lowe and Nicholson takes the guy booking hotel rooms seriously when he tells them what the numbers say on a player?



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Can someone tell me an Oilers alumni that has had any success at the NHL level in a management or advisory role besides sole lightning in a bottle in 2006 run?


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Rocksteady wrote on Thu, 10 March 2022 16:45

Can someone tell me an Oilers alumni that has had any success at the NHL level in a management or advisory role besides sole lightning in a bottle in 2006 run?

Glen Sather



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CrudeRemarks wrote on Thu, 10 March 2022 20:34

Rocksteady wrote on Thu, 10 March 2022 16:45

Can someone tell me an Oilers alumni that has had any success at the NHL level in a management or advisory role besides sole lightning in a bottle in 2006 run?

Glen Sather


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Dragon_Matt wrote on Fri, 11 March 2022 09:36

Adam Oates, though brief, with Washington. 2012-2014


Oates wasn't a successful coach. Good skills coach - has done a lot with a bunch of players - but his time in Washington wasn't great. Two seasons, no playoff success and one of the very few years of Ovechkin's career where they didn't make the playoffs.

I think the list of high-end players who've failed as coaches is a lot longer than the list of guys who succeeded. Just a few quick examples - Phil Esposito, Brian Trottier, Wayne Gretzky, Denis Savard...the really good players generally struggle as coaches. I expect some of that is that they see the game differently. It's hard to teach people to do things when they can't see the game the same way you can. I mean, Gretzky apparently knew where everyone on the ice was all the time, and would even check the reflection in the glass regularly - and be able to tell from that what to do. How do you teach that?

Bowman was a minor league player. Sather was a guy at the fringe of the team. Arbour was a defensive defenceman. Badger Bob Johnson was a University player and nothing more. Joel Quenneville was a journeyman defenceman. Ken Hitchcock never played at any high level. Jon Cooper never played at a high level.

That's not to say that no star could be successful as a coach - just that it would be the exception to the rule. I am curious as to whether you see the same in other sports too - with most dominant coaches being lesser players or guys who've never played high level. I can think of Maradona off the top of my head, who was never thought to be a brilliant manager...



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The outliers for hockey off the top of my head for a great player and a great coach at the NHL level are really only Larry Robinson and Toe Blake.


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Teammate Avry wrote on Thu, 14 April 2022 13:22

The outliers for hockey off the top of my head for a great player and a great coach at the NHL level are really only Larry Robinson and Toe Blake.


It's true, the greats never seem to become great coaches. Of the current 32 NHL coaches you see lots of former players on there, but not man of them were great players. Of those that were great players, they are almost all pretty recent in the NHL coaching game. Gerard Gallant is maybe the one with the best balance between great coach and player, but his playing career was cut short with injuries. Rod Brind'Amour is maybe #2, but he has only coached 4 seasons and I also hate his nose.

Still makes me laugh a little that Patrick Roy won the Jack Adams with one good season and then his team was bad and he disappeared forever. The Jack Adams is a weird trophy. when it comes to the winners.



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oilfan94 wrote on Thu, 14 April 2022 14:59

Teammate Avry wrote on Thu, 14 April 2022 13:22

The outliers for hockey off the top of my head for a great player and a great coach at the NHL level are really only Larry Robinson and Toe Blake.


It's true, the greats never seem to become great coaches. Of the current 32 NHL coaches you see lots of former players on there, but not man of them were great players. Of those that were great players, they are almost all pretty recent in the NHL coaching game. Gerard Gallant is maybe the one with the best balance between great coach and player, but his playing career was cut short with injuries. Rod Brind'Amour is maybe #2, but he has only coached 4 seasons and I also hate his nose.

Still makes me laugh a little that Patrick Roy won the Jack Adams with one good season and then his team was bad and he disappeared forever. The Jack Adams is a weird trophy. when it comes to the winners.


It's the average or below average players you want coaching. They are the ones that had to constantly be thinking about how to be effective players and pay attention to what the coaches were saying to keep their job.

Anyone can pass the puck to a great player and let him do it's thing. When you got five scubs that can barely keep up on the ice, that's where a good coach makes the biggest difference making sure they know where to go and what to do.



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Friedman says today on the 32 Thoughts podcast that Paul Coffey has been around for a lot of the season, and that Katz really trusts him. Friedman wonders where this is leading to.

FFS man.



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smyth260 wrote on Wed, 08 June 2022 11:55

Friedman says today on the 32 Thoughts podcast that Paul Coffey has been around for a lot of the season, and that Katz really trusts him. Friedman wonders where this is leading to.

FFS man.

Honest question: how would Katz know who is around?



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CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 08 June 2022 13:27

smyth260 wrote on Wed, 08 June 2022 11:55

Friedman says today on the 32 Thoughts podcast that Paul Coffey has been around for a lot of the season, and that Katz really trusts him. Friedman wonders where this is leading to.

FFS man.

Honest question: how would Katz know who is around?


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUnd7z3UYAAUv7m?format=jpg&name=small

Katz thinking: The issue with this team is Paul Coffey doesn't have a big enough role.



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Katz thinking 'If I bring in Paul Coffey, does Paul bring in coffee?'


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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 08 June 2022 13:29

CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 08 June 2022 13:27

smyth260 wrote on Wed, 08 June 2022 11:55

Friedman says today on the 32 Thoughts podcast that Paul Coffey has been around for a lot of the season, and that Katz really trusts him. Friedman wonders where this is leading to.

FFS man.

Honest question: how would Katz know who is around?


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUnd7z3UYAAUv7m?format=jpg&name=small

Katz thinking: The issue with this team is Paul Coffey doesn't have a big enough role.

Everyone should have a friend that will say the hard things to you. Judging solely from appearance I don't think Katz has a friend willing to say "you're starting to look like a comic book villain".



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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 08 June 2022 13:29

CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 08 June 2022 13:27

smyth260 wrote on Wed, 08 June 2022 11:55

Friedman says today on the 32 Thoughts podcast that Paul Coffey has been around for a lot of the season, and that Katz really trusts him. Friedman wonders where this is leading to.

FFS man.

Honest question: how would Katz know who is around?


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUnd7z3UYAAUv7m?format=jpg&name=small

Katz thinking: The issue with this team is Paul Coffey doesn't have a big enough role.

Do we have any idea what Coffey's kids' hockey schedule looks like?



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smyth260 wrote on Wed, 08 June 2022 11:55

Friedman says today on the 32 Thoughts podcast that Paul Coffey has been around for a lot of the season, and that Katz really trusts him. Friedman wonders where this is leading to.

FFS man.


https://podcast.sportsnet.ca/32-thoughts/

For anyone that wants to listen. Lightning strikes one, start at 15:30.

That's messed up. Should be used to this crap, but this hits hard for some reason. F this team if Katz's solution is another ex-Oiler he likes chatting about the good old days with that got in his ear to tell him easy solutions (that can't actually be actioned) that Katz wants to hear.

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