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https://www.tsn.ca/edmonton-oilers-claim-g-alex-stalock-off- waivers-from-minnesota-wild-1.1600813

2 years left at $785k per cap hit.

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I like this one. Good work Dutch.

Now get PRuss down to the Taxi and Dylan Wells to... the moon?



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Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 10:17

I like this one. Good work Dutch.

Now get PRuss down to the Taxi and Dylan Wells to... the moon?

I'd still like to know what Tipp was thinking when he sat Bouch to put PRuss into the line-up last game. He wound up being a whole lot of absolutely nothing in the game.



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Ragnarok73 wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 11:01

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 10:17

I like this one. Good work Dutch.

Now get PRuss down to the Taxi and Dylan Wells to... the moon?

I'd still like to know what Tipp was thinking when he sat Bouch to put PRuss into the line-up last game. He wound up being a whole lot of absolutely nothing in the game.


After 53 games where he didn't contribute anything worthwhile, Tippett just felt he was due!



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I think it's a good idea to have a functional 3rd goalie, but are they willing to commit a roster spot to him? If they just try to sneak him through waivers again, he will get claimed back, and this whole thing is an exercise in stupidity.


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NetBOG wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 12:17

I think it's a good idea to have a functional 3rd goalie, but are they willing to commit a roster spot to him? If they just try to sneak him through waivers again, he will get claimed back, and this whole thing is an exercise in stupidity.


They’ll keep 3.



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Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 11:19

NetBOG wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 12:17

I think it's a good idea to have a functional 3rd goalie, but are they willing to commit a roster spot to him? If they just try to sneak him through waivers again, he will get claimed back, and this whole thing is an exercise in stupidity.


They’ll keep 3.

He'll be our second goalie sometime soon anyways. If Koskinen is starting tonight there is a 94% chance Smith hurt himself diving for a puck to prevent the 5-0 goal last game.



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NetBOG wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 11:17

I think it's a good idea to have a functional 3rd goalie, but are they willing to commit a roster spot to him? If they just try to sneak him through waivers again, he will get claimed back, and this whole thing is an exercise in stupidity.


Yep - he needs to stay on the roster now. There's probably one or two more guys who can get waived now with no danger of being claimed. Kyle Turris comes to mind...



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Adam wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 14:16

NetBOG wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 11:17

I think it's a good idea to have a functional 3rd goalie, but are they willing to commit a roster spot to him? If they just try to sneak him through waivers again, he will get claimed back, and this whole thing is an exercise in stupidity.


Yep - he needs to stay on the roster now. There's probably one or two more guys who can get waived now with no danger of being claimed. Kyle Turris comes to mind...


I forgot Turris was rostered still....



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Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 13:17

Adam wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 14:16

NetBOG wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 11:17

I think it's a good idea to have a functional 3rd goalie, but are they willing to commit a roster spot to him? If they just try to sneak him through waivers again, he will get claimed back, and this whole thing is an exercise in stupidity.


Yep - he needs to stay on the roster now. There's probably one or two more guys who can get waived now with no danger of being claimed. Kyle Turris comes to mind...


I forgot Turris was rostered still....


I wonder if Kris Russell could be convinced to waive his no-move to get taxied on and off. There's not a lot of downside to him - he's not getting sent to the minors and he gets the same paycheque, and if someone else claims him, then he's off to greener pastures where he might be an every day player...I suppose he'd probably prefer not to move though.



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Adam wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 13:24

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 13:17

Adam wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 14:16

NetBOG wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 11:17

I think it's a good idea to have a functional 3rd goalie, but are they willing to commit a roster spot to him? If they just try to sneak him through waivers again, he will get claimed back, and this whole thing is an exercise in stupidity.


Yep - he needs to stay on the roster now. There's probably one or two more guys who can get waived now with no danger of being claimed. Kyle Turris comes to mind...


I forgot Turris was rostered still....


I wonder if Kris Russell could be convinced to waive his no-move to get taxied on and off. There's not a lot of downside to him - he's not getting sent to the minors and he gets the same paycheque, and if someone else claims him, then he's off to greener pastures where he might be an every day player...I suppose he'd probably prefer not to move though.


Can't risk hurting his feelings!

Like Turris who we probably end up buying out this summer instead of burying him.



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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 13:49


Like Turris who we probably end up buying out this summer instead of burying him.


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Adam wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 14:24

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 13:17

Adam wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 14:16

NetBOG wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 11:17

I think it's a good idea to have a functional 3rd goalie, but are they willing to commit a roster spot to him? If they just try to sneak him through waivers again, he will get claimed back, and this whole thing is an exercise in stupidity.


Yep - he needs to stay on the roster now. There's probably one or two more guys who can get waived now with no danger of being claimed. Kyle Turris comes to mind...


I forgot Turris was rostered still....


I wonder if Kris Russell could be convinced to waive his no-move to get taxied on and off. There's not a lot of downside to him - he's not getting sent to the minors and he gets the same paycheque, and if someone else claims him, then he's off to greener pastures where he might be an every day player...I suppose he'd probably prefer not to move though.


He’s got a 15 team list, include him in a deal to one of said teams (he says while crossing his fingers)



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Adam wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 16:54

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 13:17

Adam wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 14:16

NetBOG wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 11:17

I think it's a good idea to have a functional 3rd goalie, but are they willing to commit a roster spot to him? If they just try to sneak him through waivers again, he will get claimed back, and this whole thing is an exercise in stupidity.


Yep - he needs to stay on the roster now. There's probably one or two more guys who can get waived now with no danger of being claimed. Kyle Turris comes to mind...


I forgot Turris was rostered still....


I wonder if Kris Russell could be convinced to waive his no-move to get taxied on and off. There's not a lot of downside to him - he's not getting sent to the minors and he gets the same paycheque, and if someone else claims him, then he's off to greener pastures where he might be an every day player...I suppose he'd probably prefer not to move though.


Adam, come back to reality, man! lol Russell is not waiving to go to the taxi squad. And to be honest, I'd expect Russell to finish out his contract with the Oilers. Given that he can play both sides - at least according to the coach - he's the perfect 7 dman.



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Hibernia wrote on Tue, 02 March 2021 06:20

Adam wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 16:54

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 13:17

Adam wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 14:16

NetBOG wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 11:17

I think it's a good idea to have a functional 3rd goalie, but are they willing to commit a roster spot to him? If they just try to sneak him through waivers again, he will get claimed back, and this whole thing is an exercise in stupidity.


Yep - he needs to stay on the roster now. There's probably one or two more guys who can get waived now with no danger of being claimed. Kyle Turris comes to mind...


I forgot Turris was rostered still....


I wonder if Kris Russell could be convinced to waive his no-move to get taxied on and off. There's not a lot of downside to him - he's not getting sent to the minors and he gets the same paycheque, and if someone else claims him, then he's off to greener pastures where he might be an every day player...I suppose he'd probably prefer not to move though.


Adam, come back to reality, man! lol Russell is not waiving to go to the taxi squad. And to be honest, I'd expect Russell to finish out his contract with the Oilers. Given that he can play both sides - at least according to the coach - he's the perfect 7 dman.


I'd still be asking. The team needs all the flexibility it can get, and being healthy scratched on the roster, or healthy scratched on the taxi squad is basically the same thing.

I definitely have some concern about the love Tippett shows for certain players, including anyone with the last name Russell.



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Stalock has arrived and so has his mask!

For more pics and a video from Stalock himself;
https://twitter.com/edmontonoilers/status/137479357692886630 8?s=21

Edit: removed the image bc I don’t know how to make it smaller here🤪



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Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 24 March 2021 11:48

Stalock has arrived and so has his mask!

For more pics and a video from Stalock himself;
https://twitter.com/edmontonoilers/status/137479357692886630 8?s=21

Edit: removed the image bc I don’t know how to make it smaller here🤪

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExQoKnOVEAQf1PJ?format=jpg&name=360x360https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExQnvGmVkAMMy4y?format=jpg&name=360x360

Looks like he is a Springsteen Fan (?)



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Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 24 March 2021 12:56

Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 24 March 2021 11:48

Stalock has arrived and so has his mask!

For more pics and a video from Stalock himself;
https://twitter.com/edmontonoilers/status/137479357692886630 8?s=21

Edit: removed the image bc I don’t know how to make it smaller here🤪

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExQoKnOVEAQf1PJ?format=jpg&name=360x360https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExQnvGmVkAMMy4y?format=jpg&name=360x360

Looks like he is a Springsteen Fan (?)


Thanks Skookum!!

Yeah, in his video he says he’s a big Springsteen fan and his kids are big fans of Hunter, the mascot.



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Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 24 March 2021 12:00

Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 24 March 2021 12:56

Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 24 March 2021 11:48

Stalock has arrived and so has his mask!

For more pics and a video from Stalock himself;
https://twitter.com/edmontonoilers/status/137479357692886630 8?s=21

Edit: removed the image bc I don’t know how to make it smaller here🤪

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExQoKnOVEAQf1PJ?format=jpg&name=360x360https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExQnvGmVkAMMy4y?format=jpg&name=360x360

Looks like he is a Springsteen Fan (?)


Thanks Skookum!!

Yeah, in his video he says he’s a big Springsteen fan and his kids are big fans of Hunter, the mascot.


I guess this legitimatizes Hunter then? icon_lol

For the record, I like Hunter. And the fact his design shocks and intimidates the uninitiated.



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Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 24 March 2021 12:56

Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 24 March 2021 11:48

Stalock has arrived and so has his mask!

For more pics and a video from Stalock himself;
https://twitter.com/edmontonoilers/status/137479357692886630 8?s=21

Edit: removed the image bc I don’t know how to make it smaller here🤪

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExQoKnOVEAQf1PJ?format=jpg&name=360x360https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExQnvGmVkAMMy4y?format=jpg&name=360x360

Looks like he is a Springsteen Fan (?)

Give him the starting job already.



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CrudeRemarks wrote on Wed, 24 March 2021 15:59

Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 24 March 2021 12:56

Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 24 March 2021 11:48

Stalock has arrived and so has his mask!

For more pics and a video from Stalock himself;
https://twitter.com/edmontonoilers/status/137479357692886630 8?s=21

Edit: removed the image bc I don’t know how to make it smaller here🤪

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExQoKnOVEAQf1PJ?format=jpg&name=360x360https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExQnvGmVkAMMy4y?format=jpg&name=360x360

Looks like he is a Springsteen Fan (?)

Give him the starting job already.


Agreed



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I think he will be the teams back up for next year. At 785k and given overall, his numbers look pretty decent, I don't think you can get a back up for any cheaper than that. He's making barely above league minimum. I wonder if they protect him in expansion, then expose Koskinen.


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RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 24 March 2021 16:45

I think he will be the teams back up for next year. At 785k and given overall, his numbers look pretty decent, I don't think you can get a back up for any cheaper than that. He's making barely above league minimum. I wonder if they protect him in expansion, then expose Koskinen.


Seattle is not going to take Koskinen unless we coax them to. Ditto for Neal, ditto for Kris Russell. They won’t take one of our crappy players with bad contracts out of the goodness of their hearts.



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Adam wrote on Wed, 24 March 2021 17:30

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 24 March 2021 16:45

I think he will be the teams back up for next year. At 785k and given overall, his numbers look pretty decent, I don't think you can get a back up for any cheaper than that. He's making barely above league minimum. I wonder if they protect him in expansion, then expose Koskinen.


Seattle is not going to take Koskinen unless we coax them to. Ditto for Neal, ditto for Kris Russell. They won’t take one of our crappy players with bad contracts out of the goodness of their hearts.

They have a cap floor to get to, so I wouldn’t rule Kostawin or Neal getting clammed. Russell also has a super cheap contract next season.
I do think Mikko is a prime candidate for a buyout should he not get claimed however.



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Slim Jim Phantom Call wrote on Wed, 24 March 2021 17:35

Adam wrote on Wed, 24 March 2021 17:30

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 24 March 2021 16:45

I think he will be the teams back up for next year. At 785k and given overall, his numbers look pretty decent, I don't think you can get a back up for any cheaper than that. He's making barely above league minimum. I wonder if they protect him in expansion, then expose Koskinen.


Seattle is not going to take Koskinen unless we coax them to. Ditto for Neal, ditto for Kris Russell. They won’t take one of our crappy players with bad contracts out of the goodness of their hearts.

They have a cap floor to get to, so I wouldn’t rule Kostawin or Neal getting clammed. Russell also has a super cheap contract next season.
I do think Mikko is a prime candidate for a buyout should he not get claimed however.


Buyouts are rarely a good option. We're still paying for Benoit Pouliot and Andrei Sekera. Should have just let them play out their deals.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 24 March 2021 16:45

I think he will be the teams back up for next year. At 785k and given overall, his numbers look pretty decent, I don't think you can get a back up for any cheaper than that. He's making barely above league minimum. I wonder if they protect him in expansion, then expose Koskinen.


Seattle is not going to take Koskinen unless we coax them to. Ditto for Neal, ditto for Kris Russell. They won’t take one of our crappy players with bad contracts out of the goodness of their hearts.

They have a cap floor to get to, so I wouldn’t rule Kostawin or Neal getting clammed. Russell also has a super cheap contract next season.
I do think Mikko is a prime candidate for a buyout should he not get claimed however.


Buyouts are rarely a good option. We're still paying for Benoit Pouliot and Andrei Sekera. Should have just let them play out their deals.

Never said I would do it. This IS the Oilers we are talking about.
Waive him to minors would be my choice and let him finish out final season there.



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Adam wrote on Wed, 24 March 2021 17:30

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 24 March 2021 16:45

I think he will be the teams back up for next year. At 785k and given overall, his numbers look pretty decent, I don't think you can get a back up for any cheaper than that. He's making barely above league minimum. I wonder if they protect him in expansion, then expose Koskinen.


Seattle is not going to take Koskinen unless we coax them to. Ditto for Neal, ditto for Kris Russell. They won’t take one of our crappy players with bad contracts out of the goodness of their hearts.


Is there anyway the Oilers can waive their protection of a goalie, and use it to protect an extra d-man? That would obviously be ideal, but I'm guessing it's not allowed.



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benv wrote on Wed, 24 March 2021 17:38

Adam wrote on Wed, 24 March 2021 17:30

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 24 March 2021 16:45

I think he will be the teams back up for next year. At 785k and given overall, his numbers look pretty decent, I don't think you can get a back up for any cheaper than that. He's making barely above league minimum. I wonder if they protect him in expansion, then expose Koskinen.


Seattle is not going to take Koskinen unless we coax them to. Ditto for Neal, ditto for Kris Russell. They won’t take one of our crappy players with bad contracts out of the goodness of their hearts.


Is there anyway the Oilers can waive their protection of a goalie, and use it to protect an extra d-man? That would obviously be ideal, but I'm guessing it's not allowed.

I suppose this could kind of work if you pay Seattle in picks or prospects but that's not really what you mean.
Personally I'd gauge their interest in taking a pick back in exchange for Kassian, Neal, Russell or Koski (long shot though on him since he offers very little benefit).



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 Re: Oilers Claim G Stalock off waivers [message #780974 is a reply to message #780963 ]
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CrudeRemarks wrote on Thu, 25 March 2021 09:37

benv wrote on Wed, 24 March 2021 17:38

Adam wrote on Wed, 24 March 2021 17:30

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 24 March 2021 16:45

I think he will be the teams back up for next year. At 785k and given overall, his numbers look pretty decent, I don't think you can get a back up for any cheaper than that. He's making barely above league minimum. I wonder if they protect him in expansion, then expose Koskinen.


Seattle is not going to take Koskinen unless we coax them to. Ditto for Neal, ditto for Kris Russell. They won’t take one of our crappy players with bad contracts out of the goodness of their hearts.


Is there anyway the Oilers can waive their protection of a goalie, and use it to protect an extra d-man? That would obviously be ideal, but I'm guessing it's not allowed.

I suppose this could kind of work if you pay Seattle in picks or prospects but that's not really what you mean.
Personally I'd gauge their interest in taking a pick back in exchange for Kassian, Neal, Russell or Koski (long shot though on him since he offers very little benefit).


I don't believe there's a way to protect an extra player, other than with a trade to the Kraken to get them to stay away from someone who's technically exposed. You need to protect one goalie. The Oilers could throw away protection by guarding UFA-to-be Mike Smith instead, but they can't use the spot on someone more valuable.

If I'm giving up something to the Kraken to take someone, I'm pushing hard for them to take James Neal. He's not a regular everyday player already and he's got two more years. The buyout is horrific at this point as we'd be paying him for the next 4 years. Koskinen's is ugly two but half as long and not as much. If the option is Stalock or Koskinen as the back-up and the team feels it's even close to a wash, it may make sense to buy him out, as the buyout plus Stalock still provides savings for the team on their back-up role.



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If I'm giving up something to the Kraken to take someone, I'm pushing hard for them to take James Neal. He's not a regular everyday player already and he's got two more years. The buyout is horrific at this point as we'd be paying him for the next 4 years. Koskinen's is ugly two but half as long and not as much. If the option is Stalock or Koskinen as the back-up and the team feels it's even close to a wash, it may make sense to buy him out, as the buyout plus Stalock still provides savings for the team on their back-up role.


This is the play, for sure, and I think it happens with a pick swap where we give Seattle a second for a seventh, or some such alchemy in exchange for taking Neal.



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Adam wrote on Thu, 25 March 2021 11:19

CrudeRemarks wrote on Thu, 25 March 2021 09:37

benv wrote on Wed, 24 March 2021 17:38

Adam wrote on Wed, 24 March 2021 17:30

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 24 March 2021 16:45

I think he will be the teams back up for next year. At 785k and given overall, his numbers look pretty decent, I don't think you can get a back up for any cheaper than that. He's making barely above league minimum. I wonder if they protect him in expansion, then expose Koskinen.


Seattle is not going to take Koskinen unless we coax them to. Ditto for Neal, ditto for Kris Russell. They won’t take one of our crappy players with bad contracts out of the goodness of their hearts.


Is there anyway the Oilers can waive their protection of a goalie, and use it to protect an extra d-man? That would obviously be ideal, but I'm guessing it's not allowed.

I suppose this could kind of work if you pay Seattle in picks or prospects but that's not really what you mean.
Personally I'd gauge their interest in taking a pick back in exchange for Kassian, Neal, Russell or Koski (long shot though on him since he offers very little benefit).


I don't believe there's a way to protect an extra player, other than with a trade to the Kraken to get them to stay away from someone who's technically exposed. You need to protect one goalie. The Oilers could throw away protection by guarding UFA-to-be Mike Smith instead, but they can't use the spot on someone more valuable.

If I'm giving up something to the Kraken to take someone, I'm pushing hard for them to take James Neal. He's not a regular everyday player already and he's got two more years. The buyout is horrific at this point as we'd be paying him for the next 4 years. Koskinen's is ugly two but half as long and not as much. If the option is Stalock or Koskinen as the back-up and the team feels it's even close to a wash, it may make sense to buy him out, as the buyout plus Stalock still provides savings for the team on their back-up role.

Why would you buy him out when he can just get longterm Covid symptoms that mean he isn't officially retiring but he'll never play again?



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Adam wrote on Wed, 24 March 2021 17:30

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 24 March 2021 16:45

I think he will be the teams back up for next year. At 785k and given overall, his numbers look pretty decent, I don't think you can get a back up for any cheaper than that. He's making barely above league minimum. I wonder if they protect him in expansion, then expose Koskinen.


Seattle is not going to take Koskinen unless we coax them to. Ditto for Neal, ditto for Kris Russell. They won’t take one of our crappy players with bad contracts out of the goodness of their hearts.

I wasn't saying they would actually take Koskinen but the fact they would most likely not take him, wouldn't stop me from leaving him exposed. In my opinion, Stalock's contract makes him more valuable than Koskinen. Stalock based on his career numbers, looks to be an experienced, capable NHL back up who's making barely above league minimum.

I am hoping the Oilers can upgrade on Koskinen because I think they need too. But if unfortunately it happened they couldn't and Koskinen and Stalock was your goalies next year, they'd save themselves 715k. Any area you can save money is huge in my books.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 25 March 2021 08:42

Adam wrote on Wed, 24 March 2021 17:30

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 24 March 2021 16:45

I think he will be the teams back up for next year. At 785k and given overall, his numbers look pretty decent, I don't think you can get a back up for any cheaper than that. He's making barely above league minimum. I wonder if they protect him in expansion, then expose Koskinen.


Seattle is not going to take Koskinen unless we coax them to. Ditto for Neal, ditto for Kris Russell. They won’t take one of our crappy players with bad contracts out of the goodness of their hearts.

I wasn't saying they would actually take Koskinen but the fact they would most likely not take him, wouldn't stop me from leaving him exposed. In my opinion, Stalock's contract makes him more valuable than Koskinen. Stalock based on his career numbers, looks to be an experienced, capable NHL back up who's making barely above league minimum.

I am hoping the Oilers can upgrade on Koskinen because I think they need too. But if unfortunately it happened they couldn't and Koskinen and Stalock was your goalies next year, they'd save themselves 715k. Any area you can save money is huge in my books.


I’d rather protect Skinner. No chance they take him, but if there is a chance Seattle wants a career backup or a career 1B starter then I’m all for not losing a forward or D asset. Stalock is a bargain, but he has a heart condition and hasn’t played this year. Could be our back up for next year, might also retire like Letestu did.



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inverno76 wrote on Thu, 25 March 2021 14:38

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 25 March 2021 08:42

Adam wrote on Wed, 24 March 2021 17:30

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 24 March 2021 16:45

I think he will be the teams back up for next year. At 785k and given overall, his numbers look pretty decent, I don't think you can get a back up for any cheaper than that. He's making barely above league minimum. I wonder if they protect him in expansion, then expose Koskinen.


Seattle is not going to take Koskinen unless we coax them to. Ditto for Neal, ditto for Kris Russell. They won’t take one of our crappy players with bad contracts out of the goodness of their hearts.

I wasn't saying they would actually take Koskinen but the fact they would most likely not take him, wouldn't stop me from leaving him exposed. In my opinion, Stalock's contract makes him more valuable than Koskinen. Stalock based on his career numbers, looks to be an experienced, capable NHL back up who's making barely above league minimum.

I am hoping the Oilers can upgrade on Koskinen because I think they need too. But if unfortunately it happened they couldn't and Koskinen and Stalock was your goalies next year, they'd save themselves 715k. Any area you can save money is huge in my books.


I’d rather protect Skinner. No chance they take him, but if there is a chance Seattle wants a career backup or a career 1B starter then I’m all for not losing a forward or D asset. Stalock is a bargain, but he has a heart condition and hasn’t played this year. Could be our back up for next year, might also retire like Letestu did.


Skinner is in zero danger of being selected by the Kraken. He's struggled to get to 0.900 in the minors and the small sample size in this funky year isn't going to sway them that he's one of the 3 best goalie options available across the league AND the best option to take from Edmonton.



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CrudeRemarks wrote on Thu, 25 March 2021 15:12

inverno76 wrote on Thu, 25 March 2021 14:38

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 25 March 2021 08:42

Adam wrote on Wed, 24 March 2021 17:30

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 24 March 2021 16:45

I think he will be the teams back up for next year. At 785k and given overall, his numbers look pretty decent, I don't think you can get a back up for any cheaper than that. He's making barely above league minimum. I wonder if they protect him in expansion, then expose Koskinen.


Seattle is not going to take Koskinen unless we coax them to. Ditto for Neal, ditto for Kris Russell. They won’t take one of our crappy players with bad contracts out of the goodness of their hearts.

I wasn't saying they would actually take Koskinen but the fact they would most likely not take him, wouldn't stop me from leaving him exposed. In my opinion, Stalock's contract makes him more valuable than Koskinen. Stalock based on his career numbers, looks to be an experienced, capable NHL back up who's making barely above league minimum.

I am hoping the Oilers can upgrade on Koskinen because I think they need too. But if unfortunately it happened they couldn't and Koskinen and Stalock was your goalies next year, they'd save themselves 715k. Any area you can save money is huge in my books.


I’d rather protect Skinner. No chance they take him, but if there is a chance Seattle wants a career backup or a career 1B starter then I’m all for not losing a forward or D asset. Stalock is a bargain, but he has a heart condition and hasn’t played this year. Could be our back up for next year, might also retire like Letestu did.


Skinner is in zero danger of being selected by the Kraken. He's struggled to get to 0.900 in the minors and the small sample size in this funky year isn't going to sway them that he's one of the 3 best goalie options available across the league AND the best option to take from Edmonton.

I agree with you completely. I can't see what the Kraken would pick Skinner. As you said, prior to this season, he's been below .900 in the minors. There are going to be way more, more proven goalies available. I don't think there is a chance in hell Skinner on the Oilers next year so why would the Kraken want him.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 25 March 2021 15:53

CrudeRemarks wrote on Thu, 25 March 2021 15:12

inverno76 wrote on Thu, 25 March 2021 14:38

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 25 March 2021 08:42

Adam wrote on Wed, 24 March 2021 17:30

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 24 March 2021 16:45

I think he will be the teams back up for next year. At 785k and given overall, his numbers look pretty decent, I don't think you can get a back up for any cheaper than that. He's making barely above league minimum. I wonder if they protect him in expansion, then expose Koskinen.


Seattle is not going to take Koskinen unless we coax them to. Ditto for Neal, ditto for Kris Russell. They won’t take one of our crappy players with bad contracts out of the goodness of their hearts.

I wasn't saying they would actually take Koskinen but the fact they would most likely not take him, wouldn't stop me from leaving him exposed. In my opinion, Stalock's contract makes him more valuable than Koskinen. Stalock based on his career numbers, looks to be an experienced, capable NHL back up who's making barely above league minimum.

I am hoping the Oilers can upgrade on Koskinen because I think they need too. But if unfortunately it happened they couldn't and Koskinen and Stalock was your goalies next year, they'd save themselves 715k. Any area you can save money is huge in my books.


I’d rather protect Skinner. No chance they take him, but if there is a chance Seattle wants a career backup or a career 1B starter then I’m all for not losing a forward or D asset. Stalock is a bargain, but he has a heart condition and hasn’t played this year. Could be our back up for next year, might also retire like Letestu did.


Skinner is in zero danger of being selected by the Kraken. He's struggled to get to 0.900 in the minors and the small sample size in this funky year isn't going to sway them that he's one of the 3 best goalie options available across the league AND the best option to take from Edmonton.

I agree with you completely. I can't see what the Kraken would pick Skinner. As you said, prior to this season, he's been below .900 in the minors. There are going to be way more, more proven goalies available. I don't think there is a chance in hell Skinner on the Oilers next year so why would the Kraken want him.


I don’t think any of our goalies are worth protecting, but if we lost Stalock or Koskinen that means Billy Legs, Caleb Jones or Khaira remain Oilers. I prefer those 3 every time. Expose them both.



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Looks like Stalock is on the road to playing at last. If he clears waivers, likely headed to Bakersfield.

https://www.tsn.ca/alex-stalock-waivers-edmonton-oilers-1.17 45685




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We should waive him just to make sure he's actually good.

If he gets claimed, we know he is probably good.



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Good news.. the goalie pen will be full though.. Rodrigue, Stalock, Rodrigue, Kono, Skinner, Koski, Smith..

They keep a guy on the practice roster.. 1 + (2 in Bako) + (2 in ECHL) + (2 on the Oil) = 7

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Skookum Jim wrote on Fri, 14 January 2022 13:17

Good news.. the goalie pen will be full though.. Rodrigue, Stalock, Rodrigue, Kono, Skinner, Koski, Smith..

They keep a guy on the practice roster.. 1 + (2 in Bako) + (2 in ECHL) + (2 on the Oil) = 7

Oil
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(Kono?)

Bako
Skinner Stalock ?

ECHL
Kono Rodrigue ?


Sadly, none of them are NHL starting netminders!

Although worth saying, as I've been a bit hard on him, Skinner has looked to be the best option so far this season and probably should continue to get opportunities with Koskinen and Smith pretty underwhelming and/or injured all the time.



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