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Koskinen should be the starter.


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Solid rebound game. Koskinen is soooo much better than Smith. And sooooooooooooooooooo much better than battling through injury Smith. Really hope he can maintain it while we hope Smith gets his crap together.

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #29) [message #748407 is a reply to message #748397 ]
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Big win. Had to have that one for the psyche. Even better they got it in regulation.

5v5 game is still.... eek. Hopefully RNH is back Wednesday. Kass too. And gosh I hope Benning is okay. .



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #29) [message #748410 is a reply to message #748407 ]
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Scruffy game, which wouldn't have looked out of place in the top British league if I'm being honest. Very little quality from either team, but and it's a huge BUT, we found a way to win and that's important.

I tweeted to another UK Oilers fan last night at 4-2 down that Archibald and P Russell would be our hero's and get us back into the game, little did I know I was 24 hours in advance. Felt sorry for Russell, getting that monkey off his back would have helped a lot.

The Tippet blender certainly didn't help the team out drastically and of course all the late injuries and family situations upset the squad, but we found a win, stopped the slide at 2 again and we move on.

One thing of note, the UK took the nucks feed, I don't recall ever hearing them two previously and hopefully I never have to again.



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #29) [message #748424 is a reply to message #748410 ]
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Leia wrote on Sun, 01 December 2019 22:45

Scruffy game, which wouldn't have looked out of place in the top British league if I'm being honest. Very little quality from either team, but and it's a huge BUT, we found a way to win and that's important.

I tweeted to another UK Oilers fan last night at 4-2 down that Archibald and P Russell would be our hero's and get us back into the game, little did I know I was 24 hours in advance. Felt sorry for Russell, getting that monkey off his back would have helped a lot.

The Tippet blender certainly didn't help the team out drastically and of course all the late injuries and family situations upset the squad, but we found a win, stopped the slide at 2 again and we move on.

One thing of note, the UK took the nucks feed, I don't recall ever hearing them two previously and hopefully I never have to again.


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Love that we won in regulation. So important in intra-divisional games and especially after last night’s loss.


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Vancouver fans (and at least one reporter) are insistent that the referees and Oiler embellishment cost them the game.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/draisaitl-conquers-canuc ks-tough-defence-restore-oilers-division-lead/



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NetBOG wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 04:12

Vancouver fans (and at least one reporter) are insistent that the referees and Oiler embellishment cost them the game.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/draisaitl-conquers-canuc ks-tough-defence-restore-oilers-division-lead/


Yet no mention of Pettersson’s pirouette in the first period.



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NetBOG wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 06:12

Vancouver fans (and at least one reporter) are insistent that the referees and Oiler embellishment cost them the game.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/draisaitl-conquers-canuc ks-tough-defence-restore-oilers-division-lead/


Good Lord that was a brutal read.
Sounds like it was written by a butt hurt fan rather than a supposed media reporter. Whatever happened to professional impartiality when it came to reporting?



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #29) [message #748425 is a reply to message #748419 ]
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The refs were in favor of the Oilers?

What about the non call where McDavid was about to take off to get the puck and Peterson cross checked him in the back knocking him down. That's text book interference.

What about the high stick where the ref was looking and Chiasson took a stick in the face just under the eye. His enter cheek was red.

What about where the Canuck literally had Nurses's leg in a freaking leg lock.

Did Nurse sell the high stick a bit? Yes he did but it still hit in him the face.

To the game. Good bounce back by the Oilers after a bad game in Edmonton with an undermanned team. Koskinen is by far the better goalie. He was good last night, Smith I thought was junk in Edmonton.

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #29) [message #748428 is a reply to message #748425 ]
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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 08:38

The refs were in favor of the Oilers?

What about the non call where McDavid was about to take off to get the puck and Peterson cross checked him in the back knocking him down. That's text book interference.

What about the high stick where the ref was looking and Chiasson took a stick in the face just under the eye. His enter cheek was red.

What about where the Canuck literally had Nurses's leg in a freaking leg lock.

Did Nurse sell the high stick a bit? Yes he did but it still hit in him the face.

To the game. Good bounce back by the Oilers after a bad game in Edmonton with an undermanned team. Koskinen is by far the better goalie. He was good last night, Smith I thought was junk in Edmonton.

The lesson is don't worry about the refs. Everyone thinks their team is getting screwed. They're not.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 08:47

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 08:38

The refs were in favor of the Oilers?

What about the non call where McDavid was about to take off to get the puck and Peterson cross checked him in the back knocking him down. That's text book interference.

What about the high stick where the ref was looking and Chiasson took a stick in the face just under the eye. His enter cheek was red.

What about where the Canuck literally had Nurses's leg in a freaking leg lock.

Did Nurse sell the high stick a bit? Yes he did but it still hit in him the face.

To the game. Good bounce back by the Oilers after a bad game in Edmonton with an undermanned team. Koskinen is by far the better goalie. He was good last night, Smith I thought was junk in Edmonton.

The lesson is don't worry about the refs. Everyone thinks their team is getting screwed. They're not.


Except when Kozari is reffing the Oilers.



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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 08:50

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 08:47

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 08:38

The refs were in favor of the Oilers?

What about the non call where McDavid was about to take off to get the puck and Peterson cross checked him in the back knocking him down. That's text book interference.

What about the high stick where the ref was looking and Chiasson took a stick in the face just under the eye. His enter cheek was red.

What about where the Canuck literally had Nurses's leg in a freaking leg lock.

Did Nurse sell the high stick a bit? Yes he did but it still hit in him the face.

To the game. Good bounce back by the Oilers after a bad game in Edmonton with an undermanned team. Koskinen is by far the better goalie. He was good last night, Smith I thought was junk in Edmonton.

The lesson is don't worry about the refs. Everyone thinks their team is getting screwed. They're not.


Except when Kozari is reffing the Oilers.

Sure.



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #29) [message #748432 is a reply to message #748428 ]
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CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 08:47

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 08:38

The refs were in favor of the Oilers?

What about the non call where McDavid was about to take off to get the puck and Peterson cross checked him in the back knocking him down. That's text book interference.

What about the high stick where the ref was looking and Chiasson took a stick in the face just under the eye. His enter cheek was red.

What about where the Canuck literally had Nurses's leg in a freaking leg lock.

Did Nurse sell the high stick a bit? Yes he did but it still hit in him the face.

To the game. Good bounce back by the Oilers after a bad game in Edmonton with an undermanned team. Koskinen is by far the better goalie. He was good last night, Smith I thought was junk in Edmonton.

The lesson is don't worry about the refs. Everyone thinks their team is getting screwed. They're not.


Although to be fair, the Canucks are the last team in the league that should be complaining about the referees. They have the most powerplays by far (110) - seven clear of Colorado in 2nd and 14 more than 3rd place Philadelphia. (Oilers are in 22nd with 80 opportunities).

They've got the 8th most penalties with 95, two more penalties than the Oilers have on the year. Their differential is +15 compared to -13 for the Oilers. Only Winnipeg and Philadelphia (both +19) are getting more help from the referees.

It's really paid dividends for the Canucks too. They've scored 11 more PP goals than they've given up on the PK even after last night. That's third in the league behind only Boston (+12) and Edmonton (+14).

In case you're wondering, the worst and third worst special teams in the league (not including SHG for and against) are our former coaches. Dallas Eakins has his Ducks at -14, while Todd McLellan, never a special teams ace, has his Kings at -10.




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Adam wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 09:06

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 08:47

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 08:38

The refs were in favor of the Oilers?

What about the non call where McDavid was about to take off to get the puck and Peterson cross checked him in the back knocking him down. That's text book interference.

What about the high stick where the ref was looking and Chiasson took a stick in the face just under the eye. His enter cheek was red.

What about where the Canuck literally had Nurses's leg in a freaking leg lock.

Did Nurse sell the high stick a bit? Yes he did but it still hit in him the face.

To the game. Good bounce back by the Oilers after a bad game in Edmonton with an undermanned team. Koskinen is by far the better goalie. He was good last night, Smith I thought was junk in Edmonton.

The lesson is don't worry about the refs. Everyone thinks their team is getting screwed. They're not.


Although to be fair, the Canucks are the last team in the league that should be complaining about the referees. They have the most powerplays by far (110) - seven clear of Colorado in 2nd and 14 more than 3rd place Philadelphia. (Oilers are in 22nd with 80 opportunities).

They've got the 8th most penalties with 95, two more penalties than the Oilers have on the year. Their differential is +15 compared to -13 for the Oilers. Only Winnipeg and Philadelphia (both +19) are getting more help from the referees.

It's really paid dividends for the Canucks too. They've scored 11 more PP goals than they've given up on the PK even after last night. That's third in the league behind only Boston (+12) and Edmonton (+14).

In case you're wondering, the worst and third worst special teams in the league (not including SHG for and against) are our former coaches. Dallas Eakins has his Ducks at -14, while Todd McLellan, never a special teams ace, has his Kings at -10.



If fans of the team with the most power plays is complaining about refs there is no point in complaining about refs.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 09:23

Adam wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 09:06

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 08:47

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 08:38

The refs were in favor of the Oilers?

What about the non call where McDavid was about to take off to get the puck and Peterson cross checked him in the back knocking him down. That's text book interference.

What about the high stick where the ref was looking and Chiasson took a stick in the face just under the eye. His enter cheek was red.

What about where the Canuck literally had Nurses's leg in a freaking leg lock.

Did Nurse sell the high stick a bit? Yes he did but it still hit in him the face.

To the game. Good bounce back by the Oilers after a bad game in Edmonton with an undermanned team. Koskinen is by far the better goalie. He was good last night, Smith I thought was junk in Edmonton.

The lesson is don't worry about the refs. Everyone thinks their team is getting screwed. They're not.


Although to be fair, the Canucks are the last team in the league that should be complaining about the referees. They have the most powerplays by far (110) - seven clear of Colorado in 2nd and 14 more than 3rd place Philadelphia. (Oilers are in 22nd with 80 opportunities).

They've got the 8th most penalties with 95, two more penalties than the Oilers have on the year. Their differential is +15 compared to -13 for the Oilers. Only Winnipeg and Philadelphia (both +19) are getting more help from the referees.

It's really paid dividends for the Canucks too. They've scored 11 more PP goals than they've given up on the PK even after last night. That's third in the league behind only Boston (+12) and Edmonton (+14).

In case you're wondering, the worst and third worst special teams in the league (not including SHG for and against) are our former coaches. Dallas Eakins has his Ducks at -14, while Todd McLellan, never a special teams ace, has his Kings at -10.



If fans of the team with the most power plays is complaining about refs there is no point in complaining about refs.

Alternatively, if those fans are complaining then we get to complain even louder.



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CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 09:30

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 09:23

Adam wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 09:06

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 08:47

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 08:38

The refs were in favor of the Oilers?

What about the non call where McDavid was about to take off to get the puck and Peterson cross checked him in the back knocking him down. That's text book interference.

What about the high stick where the ref was looking and Chiasson took a stick in the face just under the eye. His enter cheek was red.

What about where the Canuck literally had Nurses's leg in a freaking leg lock.

Did Nurse sell the high stick a bit? Yes he did but it still hit in him the face.

To the game. Good bounce back by the Oilers after a bad game in Edmonton with an undermanned team. Koskinen is by far the better goalie. He was good last night, Smith I thought was junk in Edmonton.

The lesson is don't worry about the refs. Everyone thinks their team is getting screwed. They're not.


Although to be fair, the Canucks are the last team in the league that should be complaining about the referees. They have the most powerplays by far (110) - seven clear of Colorado in 2nd and 14 more than 3rd place Philadelphia. (Oilers are in 22nd with 80 opportunities).

They've got the 8th most penalties with 95, two more penalties than the Oilers have on the year. Their differential is +15 compared to -13 for the Oilers. Only Winnipeg and Philadelphia (both +19) are getting more help from the referees.

It's really paid dividends for the Canucks too. They've scored 11 more PP goals than they've given up on the PK even after last night. That's third in the league behind only Boston (+12) and Edmonton (+14).

In case you're wondering, the worst and third worst special teams in the league (not including SHG for and against) are our former coaches. Dallas Eakins has his Ducks at -14, while Todd McLellan, never a special teams ace, has his Kings at -10.



If fans of the team with the most power plays is complaining about refs there is no point in complaining about refs.

Alternatively, if those fans are complaining then we get to complain even louder.

Fair. Although, I'm not sure we want to be known as the fans who out Vancouver'd Vancouver.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 09:36

CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 09:30

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 09:23

Adam wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 09:06

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 08:47

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 08:38

The refs were in favor of the Oilers?

What about the non call where McDavid was about to take off to get the puck and Peterson cross checked him in the back knocking him down. That's text book interference.

What about the high stick where the ref was looking and Chiasson took a stick in the face just under the eye. His enter cheek was red.

What about where the Canuck literally had Nurses's leg in a freaking leg lock.

Did Nurse sell the high stick a bit? Yes he did but it still hit in him the face.

To the game. Good bounce back by the Oilers after a bad game in Edmonton with an undermanned team. Koskinen is by far the better goalie. He was good last night, Smith I thought was junk in Edmonton.

The lesson is don't worry about the refs. Everyone thinks their team is getting screwed. They're not.


Although to be fair, the Canucks are the last team in the league that should be complaining about the referees. They have the most powerplays by far (110) - seven clear of Colorado in 2nd and 14 more than 3rd place Philadelphia. (Oilers are in 22nd with 80 opportunities).

They've got the 8th most penalties with 95, two more penalties than the Oilers have on the year. Their differential is +15 compared to -13 for the Oilers. Only Winnipeg and Philadelphia (both +19) are getting more help from the referees.

It's really paid dividends for the Canucks too. They've scored 11 more PP goals than they've given up on the PK even after last night. That's third in the league behind only Boston (+12) and Edmonton (+14).

In case you're wondering, the worst and third worst special teams in the league (not including SHG for and against) are our former coaches. Dallas Eakins has his Ducks at -14, while Todd McLellan, never a special teams ace, has his Kings at -10.



If fans of the team with the most power plays is complaining about refs there is no point in complaining about refs.

Alternatively, if those fans are complaining then we get to complain even louder.

Fair. Although, I'm not sure we want to be known as the fans who out Vancouver'd Vancouver.


I think it just gives us the right to complain about the refs AND feel superior to Canucks' fans.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 10:36

CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 09:30

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 09:23

Adam wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 09:06

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 08:47

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 08:38

The refs were in favor of the Oilers?

What about the non call where McDavid was about to take off to get the puck and Peterson cross checked him in the back knocking him down. That's text book interference.

What about the high stick where the ref was looking and Chiasson took a stick in the face just under the eye. His enter cheek was red.

What about where the Canuck literally had Nurses's leg in a freaking leg lock.

Did Nurse sell the high stick a bit? Yes he did but it still hit in him the face.

To the game. Good bounce back by the Oilers after a bad game in Edmonton with an undermanned team. Koskinen is by far the better goalie. He was good last night, Smith I thought was junk in Edmonton.

The lesson is don't worry about the refs. Everyone thinks their team is getting screwed. They're not.


Although to be fair, the Canucks are the last team in the league that should be complaining about the referees. They have the most powerplays by far (110) - seven clear of Colorado in 2nd and 14 more than 3rd place Philadelphia. (Oilers are in 22nd with 80 opportunities).

They've got the 8th most penalties with 95, two more penalties than the Oilers have on the year. Their differential is +15 compared to -13 for the Oilers. Only Winnipeg and Philadelphia (both +19) are getting more help from the referees.

It's really paid dividends for the Canucks too. They've scored 11 more PP goals than they've given up on the PK even after last night. That's third in the league behind only Boston (+12) and Edmonton (+14).

In case you're wondering, the worst and third worst special teams in the league (not including SHG for and against) are our former coaches. Dallas Eakins has his Ducks at -14, while Todd McLellan, never a special teams ace, has his Kings at -10.



If fans of the team with the most power plays is complaining about refs there is no point in complaining about refs.

Alternatively, if those fans are complaining then we get to complain even louder.

Fair. Although, I'm not sure we want to be known as the fans who out Vancouver'd Vancouver.


Agreed. One thing I was proud of was that Oiler fans were never as bad as Canuck and Flame fans when it came to blaming refs.

As it pertains to this game and specifically the article here is a quote;
Quote:


The Edmonton defenceman sold both calls, grabbing his face on the first one and whirling theatrically off Eriksson’s “pick” on the second while yelling loudly enough to be heard in the press box.

It’s the NHL; every call is subjective – like the double-minor for high-sticking Edmonton defenceman Ethan Bear wasn’t assessed when he bloodied Brock Boeser’s mouth as he scored late in the first period.

Again, because it’s the NHL, every team gets calls it doesn’t like. The Canucks just failed miserably to kill theirs.


While some of the wording is colorful I agree with what he said. Bear should have gotten an extra 2 min penalty after the goal. Nurse did embellish both calls on Eriksson, especially the high stick.

The last paragraph quoted is important. Take of the Oilers glasses for a second and you see the reporter not put all the blame on the refs but rather the Canucks ineptitude.

Are there missed calls on the Oilers? Sure. There are on both teams, in every game. Over the course of a season they mostly even out. This constant complaining about the Oilers being screwed by the refs is tip toeing up to sad and is a bad look.

Never go full Vancouver, Oilfans, never.




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PlusOne wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 09:59

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 10:36

CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 09:30

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 09:23

Adam wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 09:06

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 08:47

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 08:38

The refs were in favor of the Oilers?

What about the non call where McDavid was about to take off to get the puck and Peterson cross checked him in the back knocking him down. That's text book interference.

What about the high stick where the ref was looking and Chiasson took a stick in the face just under the eye. His enter cheek was red.

What about where the Canuck literally had Nurses's leg in a freaking leg lock.

Did Nurse sell the high stick a bit? Yes he did but it still hit in him the face.

To the game. Good bounce back by the Oilers after a bad game in Edmonton with an undermanned team. Koskinen is by far the better goalie. He was good last night, Smith I thought was junk in Edmonton.

The lesson is don't worry about the refs. Everyone thinks their team is getting screwed. They're not.


Although to be fair, the Canucks are the last team in the league that should be complaining about the referees. They have the most powerplays by far (110) - seven clear of Colorado in 2nd and 14 more than 3rd place Philadelphia. (Oilers are in 22nd with 80 opportunities).

They've got the 8th most penalties with 95, two more penalties than the Oilers have on the year. Their differential is +15 compared to -13 for the Oilers. Only Winnipeg and Philadelphia (both +19) are getting more help from the referees.

It's really paid dividends for the Canucks too. They've scored 11 more PP goals than they've given up on the PK even after last night. That's third in the league behind only Boston (+12) and Edmonton (+14).

In case you're wondering, the worst and third worst special teams in the league (not including SHG for and against) are our former coaches. Dallas Eakins has his Ducks at -14, while Todd McLellan, never a special teams ace, has his Kings at -10.



If fans of the team with the most power plays is complaining about refs there is no point in complaining about refs.

Alternatively, if those fans are complaining then we get to complain even louder.

Fair. Although, I'm not sure we want to be known as the fans who out Vancouver'd Vancouver.


Agreed. One thing I was proud of was that Oiler fans were never as bad as Canuck and Flame fans when it came to blaming refs.

As it pertains to this game and specifically the article here is a quote;
Quote:


The Edmonton defenceman sold both calls, grabbing his face on the first one and whirling theatrically off Eriksson’s “pick” on the second while yelling loudly enough to be heard in the press box.

It’s the NHL; every call is subjective – like the double-minor for high-sticking Edmonton defenceman Ethan Bear wasn’t assessed when he bloodied Brock Boeser’s mouth as he scored late in the first period.

Again, because it’s the NHL, every team gets calls it doesn’t like. The Canucks just failed miserably to kill theirs.


While some of the wording is colorful I agree with what he said. Bear should have gotten an extra 2 min penalty after the goal. Nurse did embellish both calls on Eriksson, especially the high stick.

The last paragraph quoted is important. Take of the Oilers glasses for a second and you see the reporter not put all the blame on the refs but rather the Canucks ineptitude.

Are there missed calls on the Oilers? Sure. There are on both teams, in every game. Over the course of a season they mostly even out. This constant complaining about the Oilers being screwed by the refs is tip toeing up to sad and is a bad look.

Never go full Vancouver, Oilfans, never.




Totally disagree about Bear/Boeser. Boeser was on his knees and Bear had his stick at waist height. NO way it was a penalty.



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welcometotheOC wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 18:52

PlusOne wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 09:59

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 10:36

CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 09:30

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 09:23

Adam wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 09:06

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 08:47

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 08:38

The refs were in favor of the Oilers?

What about the non call where McDavid was about to take off to get the puck and Peterson cross checked him in the back knocking him down. That's text book interference.

What about the high stick where the ref was looking and Chiasson took a stick in the face just under the eye. His enter cheek was red.

What about where the Canuck literally had Nurses's leg in a freaking leg lock.

Did Nurse sell the high stick a bit? Yes he did but it still hit in him the face.

To the game. Good bounce back by the Oilers after a bad game in Edmonton with an undermanned team. Koskinen is by far the better goalie. He was good last night, Smith I thought was junk in Edmonton.

The lesson is don't worry about the refs. Everyone thinks their team is getting screwed. They're not.


Although to be fair, the Canucks are the last team in the league that should be complaining about the referees. They have the most powerplays by far (110) - seven clear of Colorado in 2nd and 14 more than 3rd place Philadelphia. (Oilers are in 22nd with 80 opportunities).

They've got the 8th most penalties with 95, two more penalties than the Oilers have on the year. Their differential is +15 compared to -13 for the Oilers. Only Winnipeg and Philadelphia (both +19) are getting more help from the referees.

It's really paid dividends for the Canucks too. They've scored 11 more PP goals than they've given up on the PK even after last night. That's third in the league behind only Boston (+12) and Edmonton (+14).

In case you're wondering, the worst and third worst special teams in the league (not including SHG for and against) are our former coaches. Dallas Eakins has his Ducks at -14, while Todd McLellan, never a special teams ace, has his Kings at -10.



If fans of the team with the most power plays is complaining about refs there is no point in complaining about refs.

Alternatively, if those fans are complaining then we get to complain even louder.

Fair. Although, I'm not sure we want to be known as the fans who out Vancouver'd Vancouver.


Agreed. One thing I was proud of was that Oiler fans were never as bad as Canuck and Flame fans when it came to blaming refs.

As it pertains to this game and specifically the article here is a quote;
Quote:


The Edmonton defenceman sold both calls, grabbing his face on the first one and whirling theatrically off Eriksson’s “pick” on the second while yelling loudly enough to be heard in the press box.

It’s the NHL; every call is subjective – like the double-minor for high-sticking Edmonton defenceman Ethan Bear wasn’t assessed when he bloodied Brock Boeser’s mouth as he scored late in the first period.

Again, because it’s the NHL, every team gets calls it doesn’t like. The Canucks just failed miserably to kill theirs.


While some of the wording is colorful I agree with what he said. Bear should have gotten an extra 2 min penalty after the goal. Nurse did embellish both calls on Eriksson, especially the high stick.

The last paragraph quoted is important. Take of the Oilers glasses for a second and you see the reporter not put all the blame on the refs but rather the Canucks ineptitude.

Are there missed calls on the Oilers? Sure. There are on both teams, in every game. Over the course of a season they mostly even out. This constant complaining about the Oilers being screwed by the refs is tip toeing up to sad and is a bad look.

Never go full Vancouver, Oilfans, never.




Totally disagree about Bear/Boeser. Boeser was on his knees and Bear had his stick at waist height. NO way it was a penalty.



Quote:

Rule 60 – High-sticking
60.1 High-sticking - A “high stick” is one which is carried above the height
of the opponent’s shoulders. Players must be in control and
responsible for their stick.
However, a player is permitted accidental
contact on an opponent if the act is committed as a normal windup or
follow through of a shooting motion, or accidental contact on the
opposing center who is bent over during the course of a face-off. A
wild swing at a bouncing puck would not be considered a normal
windup or follow through and any contact to an opponent above the
height of the shoulders shall be penalized accordingly.


Does height of shoulders mean height when that player is normally standing? Probably, since that terminology is used for other things, like high sticking a puck to stop play. Tkachuk was allowed ot high stick a puck above his shoulders while he was hunching over, and a challenge failed because of that. The NHL said the reason was that Tkachuk's stick was still lower than where Tkachuk's shoulders would be if he was standing straight up.



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welcometotheOC wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 19:52

PlusOne wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 09:59

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 10:36

CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 09:30

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 09:23

Adam wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 09:06

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 08:47

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 08:38

The refs were in favor of the Oilers?

What about the non call where McDavid was about to take off to get the puck and Peterson cross checked him in the back knocking him down. That's text book interference.

What about the high stick where the ref was looking and Chiasson took a stick in the face just under the eye. His enter cheek was red.

What about where the Canuck literally had Nurses's leg in a freaking leg lock.

Did Nurse sell the high stick a bit? Yes he did but it still hit in him the face.

To the game. Good bounce back by the Oilers after a bad game in Edmonton with an undermanned team. Koskinen is by far the better goalie. He was good last night, Smith I thought was junk in Edmonton.

The lesson is don't worry about the refs. Everyone thinks their team is getting screwed. They're not.


Although to be fair, the Canucks are the last team in the league that should be complaining about the referees. They have the most powerplays by far (110) - seven clear of Colorado in 2nd and 14 more than 3rd place Philadelphia. (Oilers are in 22nd with 80 opportunities).

They've got the 8th most penalties with 95, two more penalties than the Oilers have on the year. Their differential is +15 compared to -13 for the Oilers. Only Winnipeg and Philadelphia (both +19) are getting more help from the referees.

It's really paid dividends for the Canucks too. They've scored 11 more PP goals than they've given up on the PK even after last night. That's third in the league behind only Boston (+12) and Edmonton (+14).

In case you're wondering, the worst and third worst special teams in the league (not including SHG for and against) are our former coaches. Dallas Eakins has his Ducks at -14, while Todd McLellan, never a special teams ace, has his Kings at -10.



If fans of the team with the most power plays is complaining about refs there is no point in complaining about refs.

Alternatively, if those fans are complaining then we get to complain even louder.

Fair. Although, I'm not sure we want to be known as the fans who out Vancouver'd Vancouver.


Agreed. One thing I was proud of was that Oiler fans were never as bad as Canuck and Flame fans when it came to blaming refs.

As it pertains to this game and specifically the article here is a quote;
Quote:


The Edmonton defenceman sold both calls, grabbing his face on the first one and whirling theatrically off Eriksson’s “pick” on the second while yelling loudly enough to be heard in the press box.

It’s the NHL; every call is subjective – like the double-minor for high-sticking Edmonton defenceman Ethan Bear wasn’t assessed when he bloodied Brock Boeser’s mouth as he scored late in the first period.

Again, because it’s the NHL, every team gets calls it doesn’t like. The Canucks just failed miserably to kill theirs.


While some of the wording is colorful I agree with what he said. Bear should have gotten an extra 2 min penalty after the goal. Nurse did embellish both calls on Eriksson, especially the high stick.

The last paragraph quoted is important. Take of the Oilers glasses for a second and you see the reporter not put all the blame on the refs but rather the Canucks ineptitude.

Are there missed calls on the Oilers? Sure. There are on both teams, in every game. Over the course of a season they mostly even out. This constant complaining about the Oilers being screwed by the refs is tip toeing up to sad and is a bad look.

Never go full Vancouver, Oilfans, never.




Totally disagree about Bear/Boeser. Boeser was on his knees and Bear had his stick at waist height. NO way it was a penalty.



There is those glasses on again. Boeser is going down when scroing, not already on the ground. Bear absolutely does not have his stick at waste height, it is on the ice and he lifts in the air trying to stick lift. On the way up and Boeser is on the way down.
If Boeser stands still and doesnt go down he still gets hit square in the face. Should have been a 4 min with 2 negated by the goal.
If that was McDavid getting hit while scoring a few on this board would be calling for a 5 game suspension.



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PlusOne wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 21:24

welcometotheOC wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 19:52

PlusOne wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 09:59

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 10:36

CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 09:30

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 09:23

Adam wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 09:06

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 08:47

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 08:38

The refs were in favor of the Oilers?

What about the non call where McDavid was about to take off to get the puck and Peterson cross checked him in the back knocking him down. That's text book interference.

What about the high stick where the ref was looking and Chiasson took a stick in the face just under the eye. His enter cheek was red.

What about where the Canuck literally had Nurses's leg in a freaking leg lock.

Did Nurse sell the high stick a bit? Yes he did but it still hit in him the face.

To the game. Good bounce back by the Oilers after a bad game in Edmonton with an undermanned team. Koskinen is by far the better goalie. He was good last night, Smith I thought was junk in Edmonton.

The lesson is don't worry about the refs. Everyone thinks their team is getting screwed. They're not.


Although to be fair, the Canucks are the last team in the league that should be complaining about the referees. They have the most powerplays by far (110) - seven clear of Colorado in 2nd and 14 more than 3rd place Philadelphia. (Oilers are in 22nd with 80 opportunities).

They've got the 8th most penalties with 95, two more penalties than the Oilers have on the year. Their differential is +15 compared to -13 for the Oilers. Only Winnipeg and Philadelphia (both +19) are getting more help from the referees.

It's really paid dividends for the Canucks too. They've scored 11 more PP goals than they've given up on the PK even after last night. That's third in the league behind only Boston (+12) and Edmonton (+14).

In case you're wondering, the worst and third worst special teams in the league (not including SHG for and against) are our former coaches. Dallas Eakins has his Ducks at -14, while Todd McLellan, never a special teams ace, has his Kings at -10.



If fans of the team with the most power plays is complaining about refs there is no point in complaining about refs.

Alternatively, if those fans are complaining then we get to complain even louder.

Fair. Although, I'm not sure we want to be known as the fans who out Vancouver'd Vancouver.


Agreed. One thing I was proud of was that Oiler fans were never as bad as Canuck and Flame fans when it came to blaming refs.

As it pertains to this game and specifically the article here is a quote;
Quote:


The Edmonton defenceman sold both calls, grabbing his face on the first one and whirling theatrically off Eriksson’s “pick” on the second while yelling loudly enough to be heard in the press box.

It’s the NHL; every call is subjective – like the double-minor for high-sticking Edmonton defenceman Ethan Bear wasn’t assessed when he bloodied Brock Boeser’s mouth as he scored late in the first period.

Again, because it’s the NHL, every team gets calls it doesn’t like. The Canucks just failed miserably to kill theirs.


While some of the wording is colorful I agree with what he said. Bear should have gotten an extra 2 min penalty after the goal. Nurse did embellish both calls on Eriksson, especially the high stick.

The last paragraph quoted is important. Take of the Oilers glasses for a second and you see the reporter not put all the blame on the refs but rather the Canucks ineptitude.

Are there missed calls on the Oilers? Sure. There are on both teams, in every game. Over the course of a season they mostly even out. This constant complaining about the Oilers being screwed by the refs is tip toeing up to sad and is a bad look.

Never go full Vancouver, Oilfans, never.




Totally disagree about Bear/Boeser. Boeser was on his knees and Bear had his stick at waist height. NO way it was a penalty.



There is those glasses on again. Boeser is going down when scroing, not already on the ground. Bear absolutely does not have his stick at waste height, it is on the ice and he lifts in the air trying to stick lift. On the way up and Boeser is on the way down.
If Boeser stands still and doesnt go down he still gets hit square in the face. Should have been a 4 min with 2 negated by the goal.
If that was McDavid getting hit while scoring a few on this board would be calling for a 5 game suspension.



Nope, try again.



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welcometotheOC wrote on Tue, 03 December 2019 03:11

PlusOne wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 21:24

welcometotheOC wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 19:52

PlusOne wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 09:59

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 10:36

CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 09:30

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 09:23

Adam wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 09:06

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 08:47

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 08:38

The refs were in favor of the Oilers?

What about the non call where McDavid was about to take off to get the puck and Peterson cross checked him in the back knocking him down. That's text book interference.

What about the high stick where the ref was looking and Chiasson took a stick in the face just under the eye. His enter cheek was red.

What about where the Canuck literally had Nurses's leg in a freaking leg lock.

Did Nurse sell the high stick a bit? Yes he did but it still hit in him the face.

To the game. Good bounce back by the Oilers after a bad game in Edmonton with an undermanned team. Koskinen is by far the better goalie. He was good last night, Smith I thought was junk in Edmonton.

The lesson is don't worry about the refs. Everyone thinks their team is getting screwed. They're not.


Although to be fair, the Canucks are the last team in the league that should be complaining about the referees. They have the most powerplays by far (110) - seven clear of Colorado in 2nd and 14 more than 3rd place Philadelphia. (Oilers are in 22nd with 80 opportunities).

They've got the 8th most penalties with 95, two more penalties than the Oilers have on the year. Their differential is +15 compared to -13 for the Oilers. Only Winnipeg and Philadelphia (both +19) are getting more help from the referees.

It's really paid dividends for the Canucks too. They've scored 11 more PP goals than they've given up on the PK even after last night. That's third in the league behind only Boston (+12) and Edmonton (+14).

In case you're wondering, the worst and third worst special teams in the league (not including SHG for and against) are our former coaches. Dallas Eakins has his Ducks at -14, while Todd McLellan, never a special teams ace, has his Kings at -10.



If fans of the team with the most power plays is complaining about refs there is no point in complaining about refs.

Alternatively, if those fans are complaining then we get to complain even louder.

Fair. Although, I'm not sure we want to be known as the fans who out Vancouver'd Vancouver.


Agreed. One thing I was proud of was that Oiler fans were never as bad as Canuck and Flame fans when it came to blaming refs.

As it pertains to this game and specifically the article here is a quote;
Quote:


The Edmonton defenceman sold both calls, grabbing his face on the first one and whirling theatrically off Eriksson’s “pick” on the second while yelling loudly enough to be heard in the press box.

It’s the NHL; every call is subjective – like the double-minor for high-sticking Edmonton defenceman Ethan Bear wasn’t assessed when he bloodied Brock Boeser’s mouth as he scored late in the first period.

Again, because it’s the NHL, every team gets calls it doesn’t like. The Canucks just failed miserably to kill theirs.


While some of the wording is colorful I agree with what he said. Bear should have gotten an extra 2 min penalty after the goal. Nurse did embellish both calls on Eriksson, especially the high stick.

The last paragraph quoted is important. Take of the Oilers glasses for a second and you see the reporter not put all the blame on the refs but rather the Canucks ineptitude.

Are there missed calls on the Oilers? Sure. There are on both teams, in every game. Over the course of a season they mostly even out. This constant complaining about the Oilers being screwed by the refs is tip toeing up to sad and is a bad look.

Never go full Vancouver, Oilfans, never.




Totally disagree about Bear/Boeser. Boeser was on his knees and Bear had his stick at waist height. NO way it was a penalty.



There is those glasses on again. Boeser is going down when scroing, not already on the ground. Bear absolutely does not have his stick at waste height, it is on the ice and he lifts in the air trying to stick lift. On the way up and Boeser is on the way down.
If Boeser stands still and doesnt go down he still gets hit square in the face. Should have been a 4 min with 2 negated by the goal.
If that was McDavid getting hit while scoring a few on this board would be calling for a 5 game suspension.



Nope, try again.


Well thought out and eloquent defense of your position. I will concede.

Dont go full Vancouver OC, you are better then that.



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PlusOne wrote on Tue, 03 December 2019 07:45

welcometotheOC wrote on Tue, 03 December 2019 03:11

PlusOne wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 21:24

welcometotheOC wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 19:52

PlusOne wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 09:59

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 10:36

CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 09:30

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 09:23

Adam wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 09:06

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 08:47

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 08:38

The refs were in favor of the Oilers?

What about the non call where McDavid was about to take off to get the puck and Peterson cross checked him in the back knocking him down. That's text book interference.

What about the high stick where the ref was looking and Chiasson took a stick in the face just under the eye. His enter cheek was red.

What about where the Canuck literally had Nurses's leg in a freaking leg lock.

Did Nurse sell the high stick a bit? Yes he did but it still hit in him the face.

To the game. Good bounce back by the Oilers after a bad game in Edmonton with an undermanned team. Koskinen is by far the better goalie. He was good last night, Smith I thought was junk in Edmonton.

The lesson is don't worry about the refs. Everyone thinks their team is getting screwed. They're not.


Although to be fair, the Canucks are the last team in the league that should be complaining about the referees. They have the most powerplays by far (110) - seven clear of Colorado in 2nd and 14 more than 3rd place Philadelphia. (Oilers are in 22nd with 80 opportunities).

They've got the 8th most penalties with 95, two more penalties than the Oilers have on the year. Their differential is +15 compared to -13 for the Oilers. Only Winnipeg and Philadelphia (both +19) are getting more help from the referees.

It's really paid dividends for the Canucks too. They've scored 11 more PP goals than they've given up on the PK even after last night. That's third in the league behind only Boston (+12) and Edmonton (+14).

In case you're wondering, the worst and third worst special teams in the league (not including SHG for and against) are our former coaches. Dallas Eakins has his Ducks at -14, while Todd McLellan, never a special teams ace, has his Kings at -10.



If fans of the team with the most power plays is complaining about refs there is no point in complaining about refs.

Alternatively, if those fans are complaining then we get to complain even louder.

Fair. Although, I'm not sure we want to be known as the fans who out Vancouver'd Vancouver.


Agreed. One thing I was proud of was that Oiler fans were never as bad as Canuck and Flame fans when it came to blaming refs.

As it pertains to this game and specifically the article here is a quote;
Quote:


The Edmonton defenceman sold both calls, grabbing his face on the first one and whirling theatrically off Eriksson’s “pick” on the second while yelling loudly enough to be heard in the press box.

It’s the NHL; every call is subjective – like the double-minor for high-sticking Edmonton defenceman Ethan Bear wasn’t assessed when he bloodied Brock Boeser’s mouth as he scored late in the first period.

Again, because it’s the NHL, every team gets calls it doesn’t like. The Canucks just failed miserably to kill theirs.


While some of the wording is colorful I agree with what he said. Bear should have gotten an extra 2 min penalty after the goal. Nurse did embellish both calls on Eriksson, especially the high stick.

The last paragraph quoted is important. Take of the Oilers glasses for a second and you see the reporter not put all the blame on the refs but rather the Canucks ineptitude.

Are there missed calls on the Oilers? Sure. There are on both teams, in every game. Over the course of a season they mostly even out. This constant complaining about the Oilers being screwed by the refs is tip toeing up to sad and is a bad look.

Never go full Vancouver, Oilfans, never.




Totally disagree about Bear/Boeser. Boeser was on his knees and Bear had his stick at waist height. NO way it was a penalty.



There is those glasses on again. Boeser is going down when scroing, not already on the ground. Bear absolutely does not have his stick at waste height, it is on the ice and he lifts in the air trying to stick lift. On the way up and Boeser is on the way down.
If Boeser stands still and doesnt go down he still gets hit square in the face. Should have been a 4 min with 2 negated by the goal.
If that was McDavid getting hit while scoring a few on this board would be calling for a 5 game suspension.



Nope, try again.


Well thought out and eloquent defense of your position. I will concede.

Dont go full Vancouver OC, you are better then that.



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #29) [message #748437 is a reply to message #748432 ]
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After that game, you have to ask... why the hell was Gagner sent down and Haas, Archibald, etc. kept up?

Sometimes I find that players get a rep, or there is a weird bias against them. Normally with smaller players. I think that's what's going on with Gagner, and I don't get or like it at all.

He's 0.4 points per game with limited ice time. His points per 60 minutes, puts him squarely in a second line role, at the very least a third line role:

Connor - P/60: 4.7
Kassian - P/60: 2.5
Gagner - P/60: 1.7

If it was me, I'd replace Chaison with Gagner on the second line.

Gager - Nuge - Neal, sounds like a win to me.




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NetBOG wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 03:12

Vancouver fans (and at least one reporter) are insistent that the referees and Oiler embellishment cost them the game.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/draisaitl-conquers-canuc ks-tough-defence-restore-oilers-division-lead/


If it was Eric Francis, he would be happy about those Eriksson penalties. It would mean Eriksson is contributing with toughness.

IMO no fan base can legitimately whine about reffing playing us while McDavid is getting molested all game and drawing no penalties. Oilers fans get a blanket pass to whine because of how the league insists on letting McDavid be neutralized as much as possible. Maybe McDavid can take some blame for his lack of diving skills and how willing he is to fight through all the obstruction, but he shouldn't need to go full Sedin/Pettersson/Gaudreau to get calls.

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Damn, Peter Chiarelli is looking like a genius locking Koski up for 3 years $4.5 million per.

In Chia We Trust.



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Eating some crow is in order. Go Koski go!


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overdue wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 10:55

Eating some crow is in order.

I mean, we can put it on the menu, but we're only a third of a nervous season into the success story.



This is fine.

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CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 11:15

overdue wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 10:55

Eating some crow is in order.

I mean, we can put it on the menu, but we're only a third of a nervous season into the success story.


Yeah, posts like that make me scramble for a piece of wood to knock on.

There's the chance you win the lottery any time you buy a ticket...it doesn't mean it's a good investment though.



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Adam wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 12:24

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 11:15

overdue wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 10:55

Eating some crow is in order.

I mean, we can put it on the menu, but we're only a third of a nervous season into the success story.


Yeah, posts like that make me scramble for a piece of wood to knock on.

There's the chance you win the lottery any time you buy a ticket...it doesn't mean it's a good investment though.


I am definitely more confident in him than Smith, that is for sure.
I dont know how long it will take for me not to worry about the wheels falling off but for now I am very happy at the overall stability Koskinen has brought to the net. I think it is time to make him the starter and a normal rotation until he loses the net.



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PlusOne wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 14:10

Adam wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 12:24

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 11:15

overdue wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 10:55

Eating some crow is in order.

I mean, we can put it on the menu, but we're only a third of a nervous season into the success story.


Yeah, posts like that make me scramble for a piece of wood to knock on.

There's the chance you win the lottery any time you buy a ticket...it doesn't mean it's a good investment though.


I am definitely more confident in him than Smith, that is for sure.
I dont know how long it will take for me not to worry about the wheels falling off but for now I am very happy at the overall stability Koskinen has brought to the net. I think it is time to make him the starter and a normal rotation until he loses the net.

He's imperfect but the glove hand really looks to have improved. We've spent so long here where players with weaknesses never seemed to get any better, now this season i see two prime examples of training actually paying off. Bear's skating (and overall play, but skating is what I notice the most difference in) and Koski glove hand. What a strange feeling.



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #29) [message #748475 is a reply to message #748471 ]
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PlusOne wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 14:10

Adam wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 12:24

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 11:15

overdue wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 10:55

Eating some crow is in order.

I mean, we can put it on the menu, but we're only a third of a nervous season into the success story.


Yeah, posts like that make me scramble for a piece of wood to knock on.

There's the chance you win the lottery any time you buy a ticket...it doesn't mean it's a good investment though.


I am definitely more confident in him than Smith, that is for sure.
I dont know how long it will take for me not to worry about the wheels falling off but for now I am very happy at the overall stability Koskinen has brought to the net. I think it is time to make him the starter and a normal rotation until he loses the net.


I'd play him more than Smith, but I wouldn't play him all the games. 66-75% of the time and that's it. I look at the way he fell apart down the stretch last year and I'm worried about his workload, so I'm managing it the best I can this year if I'm Tippett.

Starts so far are 15 for Smith and 14 for Koskinen - I'd be happy to see Koskinen's workload increased some - but I don't want him playing 40+ of the remaining games if I can avoid it. maybe 35/53...and even that might be high.



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #29) [message #748477 is a reply to message #748475 ]
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Adam wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 14:26

PlusOne wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 14:10

Adam wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 12:24

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 11:15

overdue wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 10:55

Eating some crow is in order.

I mean, we can put it on the menu, but we're only a third of a nervous season into the success story.


Yeah, posts like that make me scramble for a piece of wood to knock on.

There's the chance you win the lottery any time you buy a ticket...it doesn't mean it's a good investment though.


I am definitely more confident in him than Smith, that is for sure.
I dont know how long it will take for me not to worry about the wheels falling off but for now I am very happy at the overall stability Koskinen has brought to the net. I think it is time to make him the starter and a normal rotation until he loses the net.


I'd play him more than Smith, but I wouldn't play him all the games. 66-75% of the time and that's it. I look at the way he fell apart down the stretch last year and I'm worried about his workload, so I'm managing it the best I can this year if I'm Tippett.

Starts so far are 15 for Smith and 14 for Koskinen - I'd be happy to see Koskinen's workload increased some - but I don't want him playing 40+ of the remaining games if I can avoid it. maybe 35/53...and even that might be high.


Still would love to know what Hitch was doing when he refused to play a backup instead of Koskinen. Was he just trying to grind Koskinen into the ground to make him know how hard an NHL grind is, like, as a development thing? Or did Hitch get stubborn and refuse to play Stolarz because the media kept telling him he had to play Stolarz 10 of the last ~25 games for us to keep his RFA rights?

From Feb 16 (when we got him) to the end of the year Stolarz got 2 starts. 23 for Koskinen.

[Updated on: Mon, 02 December 2019 14:32]


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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 14:30

Adam wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 14:26

PlusOne wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 14:10

Adam wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 12:24

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 11:15

overdue wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 10:55

Eating some crow is in order.

I mean, we can put it on the menu, but we're only a third of a nervous season into the success story.


Yeah, posts like that make me scramble for a piece of wood to knock on.

There's the chance you win the lottery any time you buy a ticket...it doesn't mean it's a good investment though.


I am definitely more confident in him than Smith, that is for sure.
I dont know how long it will take for me not to worry about the wheels falling off but for now I am very happy at the overall stability Koskinen has brought to the net. I think it is time to make him the starter and a normal rotation until he loses the net.


I'd play him more than Smith, but I wouldn't play him all the games. 66-75% of the time and that's it. I look at the way he fell apart down the stretch last year and I'm worried about his workload, so I'm managing it the best I can this year if I'm Tippett.

Starts so far are 15 for Smith and 14 for Koskinen - I'd be happy to see Koskinen's workload increased some - but I don't want him playing 40+ of the remaining games if I can avoid it. maybe 35/53...and even that might be high.


Still would love to know what Hitch was doing when he refused to play a backup instead of Koskinen. Was he just trying to grind Koskinen into the ground to make him know how hard an NHL grind is, like, as a development thing? Or did Hitch get stubborn and refuse to play Stolarz because the media kept telling him he had to play Stolarz 10 of the last ~25 games for us to keep his RFA rights?

From Feb 16 (when we got him) to the end of the year Stolarz got 2 starts. 23 for Koskinen.


It was bizarre. If Koskinen was excelling, maybe it would have made some sense but his save percentage by month was:
Jan: 0.891
Feb: 0.904
Mar: 0.901
Apr: 0.900

Hitchcock just stubbornly trotted him back out every night. The Oilers have made some weird decisions though on goalies - they year before with Montoya, McLellan played him just enough that they lost a better draft pick, despite Talbot being healthy and Brossoit being available if needed.

With Stolarz/Koskinen, I still don't see any good reason for the Talbot trade other than that the Oilers management didn't want to look bad if Talbot continued to outplay Koskinen the remainder of the year so fixed the problem by just dumping Talbot - basically for nothing.



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #29) [message #748492 is a reply to message #748475 ]
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Quote:

I'd play him more than Smith, but I wouldn't play him all the games. 66-75% of the time and that's it. I look at the way he fell apart down the stretch last year and I'm worried about his workload, so I'm managing it the best I can this year if I'm Tippett.

I had the same thought about burn out. Because he's proven he's the more reliable goaltender at this point I would give him more games than Smith but keep it reasonable. Maybe Smith would be better in that situation too given his age.



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Apparently you CAN win with only goaltending and special team superiority. A look at the standings says so.

Stating the obvious... that was a BIG win. Because of past history I (along with many bruised fans) have been waiting for "the losing streak" that, so far, has not jumped up and said "No Playoffs for YOU". That streak could have started with a loss last night. It didn't.

I'm still on the fence as to whether this team is real or not. But, as the poster in Mulder's office says... "I want to believe." icon_nod



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