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https://mobile.twitter.com/GeorgesLaraque/status/11639587612 51377152?s=19

I’m hearing in Edmonton that Derick Brassard is about to sign a 1 year deal with
@EdmontonOilers! Great signing!


This is from Georges Laraque...so who knows how credible this is.



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smyth260 wrote on Tue, 20 August 2019 18:55

https://mobile.twitter.com/GeorgesLaraque/status/11639587612 51377152?s=19

I’m hearing in Edmonton that Derick Brassard is about to sign a 1 year deal with
@EdmontonOilers! Great signing!


This is from Georges Laraque...so who knows how credible this is.


If it's cheap (and actually happening), that would be a nice pickup for the #3C spot.

Granlund-Brassard-Gagner as a 3rd line would be a heck of a lot better than anything with Gags at C. Or having to put Nuge down there and having to break up McDavid/Drai.



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Kr55 wrote on Tue, 20 August 2019 18:58

smyth260 wrote on Tue, 20 August 2019 18:55

https://mobile.twitter.com/GeorgesLaraque/status/11639587612 51377152?s=19

I’m hearing in Edmonton that Derick Brassard is about to sign a 1 year deal with
@EdmontonOilers! Great signing!


This is from Georges Laraque...so who knows how credible this is.


If it's cheap (and actually happening), that would be a nice pickup for the #3C spot.

Granlund-Brassard-Gagner as a 3rd line would be a heck of a lot better than anything with Gags at C. Or having to put Nuge down there and having to break up McDavid/Drai.


I'm not comfortable with Haas as a 3C. Am comfortable with Brassard as a 3C.

Maybe something like this:

Draisaitl / McDavid / Kassian
Chiasson / Nugent-Hopkins / Neal
Granlund / Brassard / Gagner
Khaira / Haas / Archibald

Nygard, Jurco

It's better. Kassian on the 1RW seems less than ideal, and Chiasson's signing seems completely unnecessary as there is a bit of a logjam in the 3RW, 4RW, 13F. Nygard could potentially push into the Top-6 if you were to believe some; maybe that makes Kassian expendable.

Anyways, it looks like there could be options. Brassard wouldn't be a bad pickup at all.



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 Re: Brassard to sign with the Oilers? [message #741724 is a reply to message #741719 ]
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I have heard a few of the radio guys in Edmonton including Stauffer mention Brassard a few times. To me he makes a lot of sense as a 3rd line center because he skates well and has offensive ability. He's coming off a bad year but he still had 14 goals in 70 games. I have to think that at this point any contract would come in pretty cheap because at this time of year, unsigned UFA's are in the PTO territory.
So I hope it happens.

For lines, I would go with:

Draisaitl / McDavid / Kassian
Nygard or Granlund / Nugent-Hopkins / Neal
Nygard or Granlund / Brassard / Chiasson
Khaira / Haas or Cave / Archibald

Gagner, Jurco/Haas/Cave

Unless he can't play, I don't see Nygard as an extra forward. I also think a Chiasson - Nuge - Neal line doesn't have enough speed on it which is why I sub in on of Granlund or Nygard. I agree that having Kassian on the right side isn't ideal but in saying that, he played pretty well with Leon and McDavid. Leon and McDavid are SOOOO good together and I believe they just need a guy who can skate but has some size, isn't afraid to mix it up, will go to the net and can get in the corners and dig out some pucks. You don't want to have a guy who can't play, Kassian can play but the key for me is I think you need a guy with those 2 that has absolutely no illusions that he is a play maker or a super skilled guy. His job is to be the grind on that line and get the puck as fast as he can to one of Leon or McDavid.

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This is the first time in how many years that we might have competition for playing spots and playing time. If Brassard is signed then that fills a hole and creates some uneasiness among forwards, play well or sit or get sent down.

I hate this feeling of hope that I am feeling, I am not expecting to top the league but I am getting optimistic about this team being competitive.

Well it is August so might as well shoot for the playoffs, then the cup... rofl drink



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 Re: Brassard to sign with the Oilers? [message #741731 is a reply to message #741729 ]
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Gregor tweeted that there is no deal in place but both the Oilers and Brassard are interested. Apparently there is other teams interested.

I have to think that of all the teams that might be interested, not many can match the opportunity the Oilers would offer. You can all but guarantee he's their 3rd line center.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 21 August 2019 09:50

Gregor tweeted that there is no deal in place but both the Oilers and Brassard are interested. Apparently there is other teams interested.

I have to think that of all the teams that might be interested, not many can match the opportunity the Oilers would offer. You can all but guarantee he's their 3rd line center.


Gregor's "source" said it's not happening? I guess that means it's happening within the next 24 hours :)



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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 21 August 2019 09:52

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 21 August 2019 09:50

Gregor tweeted that there is no deal in place but both the Oilers and Brassard are interested. Apparently there is other teams interested.

I have to think that of all the teams that might be interested, not many can match the opportunity the Oilers would offer. You can all but guarantee he's their 3rd line center.


Gregor's "source" said it's not happening? I guess that means it's happening within the next 24 hours :)

I hope it does happen because it makes a ton of sense for both sides. He'd instantly be the Oilers 3rd line center. The Oilers have loaded up with lots of depth guys so no matter who he plays with, he will have decent bottom 6 NHLers to play with. So he won't be asked to drag around AHLers. He probably gets second unit PP time and might even get PK time as Tippett has come out and said he wants to limit the amount of time McDavid and Leon are on the PK which I agree with. I don't want to see McDavid breaking a foot because he's out there trying to block shots on the PK.



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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 21 August 2019 09:52

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 21 August 2019 09:50

Gregor tweeted that there is no deal in place but both the Oilers and Brassard are interested. Apparently there is other teams interested.

I have to think that of all the teams that might be interested, not many can match the opportunity the Oilers would offer. You can all but guarantee he's their 3rd line center.


Gregor's "source" said it's not happening? I guess that means it's happening within the next 24 hours :)


But, but, but, the cap!

For Gregor's sake, I hope he's right. He'll start to look pretty dumb if he was completely wrong on this.

For my sake I hope he's wrong. I think it'd be a good signing.



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 Re: Brassard to sign with the Oilers? [message #741741 is a reply to message #741740 ]
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Unless the contract is well over 2 mill which at this point in the offseason, I don't see it, the cap isn't a problem. The Oilers have 2.4mill of cap space that is with a full roster. They have 14 forwards listed which includes Brodziak. If Brassard were to come in and sign for even 1 yr at 1.5 mill, you bury Brodziak's contract which pretty much all of it wouldn't count and the net result is you'd be adding 500K to the cap. There 2.4 mill in cap space also included Mannings contract on the books. No chance he is on the team so you'd get some savings there as well even with a replacement like Jones.

I think Holland said he wanted around 1.5 mill of cap space left over. So they could sign Brassard and easily have that happen. I hope it happens.



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Just an opinion, but I think signing Brassard could be like Milan Lucic v2.0, albeit with a lower price tag. His production has fallen of the cliff and he will be 32 years old for the coming season; talk about overripe.

Cap Friendly has his lifetime earnings at over $38,000,000. Unless he has had Jack Johnson's family taking care of his finances, how motivated will he be to play for a couple of million on a team that travels a lot more than any of the Eastern teams he has played for?

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/derick-brassard

I won't be disappointed if Brassard doesn't agree to terms with the Oilers.




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GabbyDugan wrote on Wed, 21 August 2019 13:16

Just an opinion, but I think signing Brassard could be like Milan Lucic v2.0, albeit with a lower price tag. His production has fallen of the cliff and he will be 32 years old for the coming season; talk about overripe.

Cap Friendly has his lifetime earnings at over $38,000,000. Unless he has had Jack Johnson's family taking care of his finances, how motivated will he be to play for a couple of million on a team that travels a lot more than any of the Eastern teams he has played for?

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/derick-brassard

I won't be disappointed if Brassard doesn't agree to terms with the Oilers.


I think it's more like Neal 2.0. Brassard was still putting up points 2 seasons ago. He completely mailed it in this last season for some reason. He's got skill, but he played like garbage last year for 3 different teams. Lucic never had much skill but for years was able to bull rush his way to success, but the game just left him in the dust as the average skill level improved and he got slower.

You would be gambling on Brassard putting the effort back into his play and trying to prove himself again. You also don't have to worry about a boat anchor contract like Lucic or Neal. Likely he signs around the 2M range for 1 year.

I think this is about as good a gamble as we can afford this season.



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Connected talking heads now saying he is close to signing, but not with the Oilers. NYI is the rumour now.


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All signs are now pointing to Brassard signing with the Islanders. ooohhhh welllll.


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Stauffer made the comment that Brassard has played pretty much his entire career in the East. Unfortunately, that is a factor for some players.


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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 21 August 2019 14:35

All signs are now pointing to Brassard signing with the Islanders. ooohhhh welllll.

I can't believe Georges "Word Vomit" Laraque was wrong on this one. First time I can think of that he didn't have the facts straight ahead of time.



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One thing I would like to see the Oilers do is bring in a center that can win some draws. I think part of the Oilers issues on the PK is they have been brutal on draws for a long time. Nuge has been a big time guy on the PK but I believe it was Gregor who said he was something like 39% on faceoffs on the PK. I wonder if Holland would bring in a guy like Riley Sheahan who he's familiar with. He had down year last year but the season before he had 32 pts. He's a career 50.5% on faceoffs and was 54% in Pittsburgh and 54.9% when he was in Florida for part of last season.


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Islanders made it official. 1 yr -1.2 mill for Brassard. He's dead to me!!


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I was excited until I saw "Georges Laraque." Has about the same accuracy as TreenasOil.


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nullterm wrote on Wed, 21 August 2019 17:34

I was excited until I saw "Georges Laraque." Has about the same accuracy as TreenasOil.


Didnt he get 4 or 5 right during FA, all in one tweet? At the time I assumed it was an agent leaking things to him or something.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 21 August 2019 15:02

Islanders made it official. 1 yr -1.2 mill for Brassard. He's dead to me!!


That may have been a clever move by Brassard's camp...leak that he's close to someone to spur some action with another team.

Seems a little odd that it would be Georges with the rumour - did they share an agent?



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Adam wrote on Wed, 21 August 2019 17:35

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 21 August 2019 15:02

Islanders made it official. 1 yr -1.2 mill for Brassard. He's dead to me!!


That may have been a clever move by Brassard's camp...leak that he's close to someone to spur some action with another team.

Seems a little odd that it would be Georges with the rumour - did they share an agent?


Can't believe any of you wanted Brassard. He's a jerk, and basically Lucic, except worse. Poor man's Neo look-a-like from the Matrix part 3, that really crappy one that no one likes, minus any of the cyber-punk jesus powers.



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Adam wrote on Wed, 21 August 2019 17:35

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 21 August 2019 15:02

Islanders made it official. 1 yr -1.2 mill for Brassard. He's dead to me!!


That may have been a clever move by Brassard's camp...leak that he's close to someone to spur some action with another team.

Seems a little odd that it would be Georges with the rumour - did they share an agent?


It's too bad. Brassard actually made the Oilers lines look much better. Surprisingly so.

Brian Boyle the next target? Not my ideal 3C, but better than Haas and/or Cave.
Or do you just roll with Gagner at 3C, have a third line of Granlund / Gagner / Archibald, fourth of Khaira / Haas / Kassian.



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Adam wrote on Wed, 21 August 2019 17:35

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 21 August 2019 15:02

Islanders made it official. 1 yr -1.2 mill for Brassard. He's dead to me!!


That may have been a clever move by Brassard's camp...leak that he's close to someone to spur some action with another team.

Seems a little odd that it would be Georges with the rumour - did they share an agent?

You could be right. If the Islanders were kicking tires, maybe thinking about a PTO and then all of a sudden it comes out he's close to signing with the Oilers, it might have lit a fire under them to give him a contract.

I keep seeing a few people mention Sheahan because Holland drafted him and had him for so long. I worry about if he has enough offense to be a 3rd line center but he had 11 goals, 32 pts in 73 games in the 17-18 season. That's 3rd line center numbers. Plus he's good on draws.

I am hoping that one of Marody or McLeod in maybe a year will be the 3rd line center, Marody probably being closer but for this season, I think they are thin. I want nothing to do with Brodziak on the team, just too old and slow. Granlund can play center but he is probably better suited for the wing. Khaira I had hoped he would be that guy but I don't think he is capable. Cave is no higher than a 4th line center. Then Haas is an unknown.



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