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This was a mirror image of what happened last night. Can I expect as much praise as there was criticism yesterday?


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NetBOG wrote on Sun, 06 January 2019 20:41

This was a mirror image of what happened last night. Can I expect as much praise as there was criticism yesterday?

Except the losing team tonight had some long periods of play where they were all over the winning team. So I’m gonna disagree with the split image part other the the “4” and the “0”.

But yes, it’s “safe to cheer” if that’s your big worry...



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NetBOG wrote on Sun, 06 January 2019 21:41

This was a mirror image of what happened last night. Can I expect as much praise as there was criticism yesterday?


Score was mirrored but that is the only similarity.

Oilers were outplayed for much of the game. Hemmed in their own end for minutes at a time, numerous times.

A few guys had really bad games. Larsson and Khaira were the worst.

A few guys had great games. Nurse had a great game, Jones and Russell were very good.

Talbot was amazing and I assume the first star.

Lucic didnt make any huge mistakes and had a couple of very effective shifts. If he could be invisible for 55 minutes then have a shift like todays that led to the one goal I would be just fine with that.

If you want to take that game and absolve the managment for this dumpster fire, or use it to defend some very below average players than have at it.
One game where they were lucky, IMO, to score 4 and a goalie played fantastic doesnt make me forget the last dozen or so games where they have been brutal.



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NetBOG wrote on Sun, 06 January 2019 20:41

This was a mirror image of what happened last night. Can I expect as much praise as there was criticism yesterday?


Oilers have taken four points out of their last three games...it probably IS time for another "Chiarelli is a genius" story from Terry Jones!

I didn't get to watch the game tonight - did Hitchcock stick with the Big 3 all on separate lines for the whole game?



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Adam wrote on Sun, 06 January 2019 23:04

NetBOG wrote on Sun, 06 January 2019 20:41

This was a mirror image of what happened last night. Can I expect as much praise as there was criticism yesterday?


Oilers have taken four points out of their last three games...it probably IS time for another "Chiarelli is a genius" story from Terry Jones!

I didn't get to watch the game tonight - did Hitchcock stick with the Big 3 all on separate lines for the whole game?


He stuck with it for the most party yup. Not sure if it’ll work long term with the lack of depth on the wings but looked good tonight.



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4-0

3 garbage goals and 1 rebound goal.

Learn from this.



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Chia redeemed. Manning turns out to be a lucky charm from the press box. Who saw that coming?


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4 year extension?


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CrudeRemarks wrote on Sun, 06 January 2019 20:43

4 year extension?


Just gotta wait until July 1st. Need to wait until we're in the last year of his 2.25M AAV contract :)



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Kr55 wrote on Sun, 06 January 2019 20:46

CrudeRemarks wrote on Sun, 06 January 2019 20:43

4 year extension?


Just gotta wait until July 1st. Need to wait until we're in the last year of his 2.25M AAV contract :)


Montoya's $37,500 will be off the cap by then, so there's plenty of room. ;)



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Russell man! He looked good. Goaltending saved the Oilers, this could have been a 4-0 game for Anaheim but huge 1st period saves by Talbot. Steal one in San Jose and then we got a race.


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Some major good luck or puck luck if you will involved in that win. Talbot had to be the first star. Sometimes you eat the bear and sometimes the bear eats you! That little Kris Russel fills a pretty big hole in this team. From what I saw I thought Petrovic settled down and had a pretty solid game, even some good break out plays so that's a positive. That Manning deal still irks me though.

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Only bad part of this game was when Henrique died after being pushed a bit

https://i.imgur.com/rzVAZXP.gif

I know he's a Duck, and the Ducks suck, but you never wanna see someone get hurt like that.



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Kr55 wrote on Sun, 06 January 2019 19:50

Only bad part of this game was when Henrique died after being pushed a bit

https://i.imgur.com/rzVAZXP.gif

I know he's a Duck, and the Ducks suck, but you never wanna see someone get hurt like that.


Hahahaha.



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Kr55 wrote on Sun, 06 January 2019 19:50

Only bad part of this game was when Henrique died after being pushed a bit

https://i.imgur.com/rzVAZXP.gif

I know he's a Duck, and the Ducks suck, but you never wanna see someone get hurt like that.

About freaking time.
Next time I want to see that happen to Manson, then the Oilers will have arrived.



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Kr55 wrote on Sun, 06 January 2019 19:50

Only bad part of this game was when Henrique died after being pushed a bit

https://i.imgur.com/rzVAZXP.gif

I know he's a Duck, and the Ducks suck, but you never wanna see someone get hurt like that.


Someone give Nurse the A off Lucic's chest. ( I know Looch had a better game, but one game an A does not make )



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97 got one square in the numbers. Ref watches from 10 feet away. No call. Such a dangerous hit. Brandon Manning would’ve been proud.


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Some video
https://twitter.com/bruce_arthur/status/1082120289226493955



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Wow, I missed that during the game, the ref is looking at it from a few feet away, no call and it could easily have been more than 2 minutes for a dangerous play. It's almost like they are being told not to call infractions on McDavid. So lucky he didn't get injured there! The Ducks get away with so much because of that loud mouth Getslaf, always in the refs faces and sleaze ball Kessler. This play should be reviewed by the league.


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Suomalainen wrote on Mon, 07 January 2019 06:00

Some video
https://twitter.com/bruce_arthur/status/1082120289226493955

Need to turn that into a gif..

The ref should be fired.
Lindholm should get at least 2 games.

NHL policy: "if McDavid can't play in one of our preferred markets .. he won't be playing anywhere.."

In an related noted : "... Connor McDavid has pulled out of the upcoming NHL All Star game due to lingering injuries from the recent Lindholm boarding, and will instead use that time for recovery..."

[Updated on: Mon, 07 January 2019 09:58]


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Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 07 January 2019 09:51

Suomalainen wrote on Mon, 07 January 2019 06:00

Some video
https://twitter.com/bruce_arthur/status/1082120289226493955

Need to turn that into a gif..

The ref should be fired.
Lindholm should get at least 2 games.

NHL policy: "if McDavid can't play in one of our preferred markets .. he won't be playing anywhere.."

In an related noted : "... Connor McDavid has pulled out of the upcoming NHL All Star game due to lingering injuries from the recent Lindholm boarding, and will instead use that time for recovery..."


If this was any other sport... and that happens to a player of equivalent magnitude... the coaches and players go nuts after the game, publicly. How is there not a public and team outrage over that? That could’ve been a broken neck. It was not “a hockey play”. I didn’t watch the game and I no longer watch the games because, why? But that is absolutely f’ing absurd!



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Kr55 wrote on Sun, 06 January 2019 20:50

Only bad part of this game was when Henrique died after being pushed a bit

https://i.imgur.com/rzVAZXP.gif

I know he's a Duck, and the Ducks suck, but you never wanna see someone get hurt like that.



He's taken acting lessons from Kesler!

The mighty douche's defeated by the not so mighty Oilers!

Yay!



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Big win for the Oilers and a must have. They need another one.

For the game, I really don't put a lot of stock into shots, I think the amount of good scoring chances are more important. The Oilers scored 4 goals, without Gibson being good, they easily have way more. I thought Talbot played really well but I felt the Oilers have more good scoring chances than the Ducks. When a team brings the puck into your zone and fires a long range shot at your goal that has little chance of going in. Yes that counts as a shot on goal and yes that is going to hurt your overall corsi because it is a shot attempt but does it mean much if it has next to no chance of going in? Not really in my opinion.

One question I have is who to start next game. Usually you automatically start the goalie who got a shutout BUT in the case of the Oilers lately, it sure seems like every time a goalie has a good game and they get the next start, they crap the bed. I would lean to Talbot strictly because he got the shutout but they NEED these 2 guys to get on a roll.

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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 07 January 2019 08:00

Big win for the Oilers and a must have. They need another one.

For the game, I really don't put a lot of stock into shots, I think the amount of good scoring chances are more important. The Oilers scored 4 goals, without Gibson being good, they easily have way more. I thought Talbot played really well but I felt the Oilers have more good scoring chances than the Ducks. When a team brings the puck into your zone and fires a long range shot at your goal that has little chance of going in. Yes that counts as a shot on goal and yes that is going to hurt your overall corsi because it is a shot attempt but does it mean much if it has next to no chance of going in? Not really in my opinion.

One question I have is who to start next game. Usually you automatically start the goalie who got a shutout BUT in the case of the Oilers lately, it sure seems like every time a goalie has a good game and they get the next start, they crap the bed. I would lean to Talbot strictly because he got the shutout but they NEED these 2 guys to get on a roll.


For what it's worth, naturalstattrick had scoring chances at 5x5 at 34/23 in favour of the Ducks. I think it's also noteworthy that the Ducks are dead last in the league in shots/game. I don't want to dump on a win, but I don't think this is a case of one team just firing shots from the blue line all night, and the other team getting all the good chances.

Here's the heat map from naturalstattrick:

http://naturalstattrick.com/heatmaps/games/20182019/20182019-20651-5v5.png

Yes, Ducks also had some shots from farther out, but there's also a lot from between the faceoff dots and in.

Overall, I think this game was a lot more even than the score showed, and that Talbot was the difference.

http://naturalstattrick.com/game.php?season=20182019&gam e=20651



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Goose wrote on Mon, 07 January 2019 09:47

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 07 January 2019 08:00

Big win for the Oilers and a must have. They need another one.

For the game, I really don't put a lot of stock into shots, I think the amount of good scoring chances are more important. The Oilers scored 4 goals, without Gibson being good, they easily have way more. I thought Talbot played really well but I felt the Oilers have more good scoring chances than the Ducks. When a team brings the puck into your zone and fires a long range shot at your goal that has little chance of going in. Yes that counts as a shot on goal and yes that is going to hurt your overall corsi because it is a shot attempt but does it mean much if it has next to no chance of going in? Not really in my opinion.

One question I have is who to start next game. Usually you automatically start the goalie who got a shutout BUT in the case of the Oilers lately, it sure seems like every time a goalie has a good game and they get the next start, they crap the bed. I would lean to Talbot strictly because he got the shutout but they NEED these 2 guys to get on a roll.


For what it's worth, naturalstattrick had scoring chances at 5x5 at 34/23 in favour of the Ducks. I think it's also noteworthy that the Ducks are dead last in the league in shots/game. I don't want to dump on a win, but I don't think this is a case of one team just firing shots from the blue line all night, and the other team getting all the good chances.

Here's the heat map from naturalstattrick:

http://naturalstattrick.com/heatmaps/games/20182019/20182019-20651-5v5.png

Yes, Ducks also had some shots from farther out, but there's also a lot from between the faceoff dots and in.

Overall, I think this game was a lot more even than the score showed, and that Talbot was the difference.

http://naturalstattrick.com/game.php?season=20182019&gam e=20651


Think the game was pretty even until we had a decent lead. We got the more dangerous chances in the 1st I believe, after some early stink.

No doubt goalies are gonna have to be on their games for this team to have any hope. Not gonna be often, if at all, that we can outscore our problems.



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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 07 January 2019 10:55

Goose wrote on Mon, 07 January 2019 09:47

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 07 January 2019 08:00

Big win for the Oilers and a must have. They need another one.

For the game, I really don't put a lot of stock into shots, I think the amount of good scoring chances are more important. The Oilers scored 4 goals, without Gibson being good, they easily have way more. I thought Talbot played really well but I felt the Oilers have more good scoring chances than the Ducks. When a team brings the puck into your zone and fires a long range shot at your goal that has little chance of going in. Yes that counts as a shot on goal and yes that is going to hurt your overall corsi because it is a shot attempt but does it mean much if it has next to no chance of going in? Not really in my opinion.

One question I have is who to start next game. Usually you automatically start the goalie who got a shutout BUT in the case of the Oilers lately, it sure seems like every time a goalie has a good game and they get the next start, they crap the bed. I would lean to Talbot strictly because he got the shutout but they NEED these 2 guys to get on a roll.


For what it's worth, naturalstattrick had scoring chances at 5x5 at 34/23 in favour of the Ducks. I think it's also noteworthy that the Ducks are dead last in the league in shots/game. I don't want to dump on a win, but I don't think this is a case of one team just firing shots from the blue line all night, and the other team getting all the good chances.

Here's the heat map from naturalstattrick:

http://naturalstattrick.com/heatmaps/games/20182019/20182019-20651-5v5.png

Yes, Ducks also had some shots from farther out, but there's also a lot from between the faceoff dots and in.

Overall, I think this game was a lot more even than the score showed, and that Talbot was the difference.

http://naturalstattrick.com/game.php?season=20182019&gam e=20651


Think the game was pretty even until we had a decent lead. We got the more dangerous chances in the 1st I believe, after some early stink.

No doubt goalies are gonna have to be on their games for this team to have any hope. Not gonna be often, if at all, that we can outscore our problems.


Per that same website high danger chances were equal at 14 a piece.
I believe the count was McDavid- 8, Drai- 2 and RNH- 1.

That is 11 of 14 coming from the typical three. The difference in the game was a couple going in that often dont, JP comes to mind off the top, and Talbot playing one of his best games of the year.

As others have said, I dont want to crap on a win too much but this was not a great game played by the Oilers.

It WAS one of the best games based on actually taking advantage of chances and great goaltending from Talbot and those things havent happened at the same time often this year.

As usual it goes back to what a few of us predicted early on, the success of this team falls on the top players and Talbot. Many of the passengers were still passengers for most of the game with a couple of bright spots here and there





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Talbot was great and the main reason they won but I would ad Koskinen to the key players on the team. We have a tandem in goal and that is more of a strength than weakness. Both have been yanked in favor of the other and that's why you have two. Things can go sideways. I thought the Ducks had quite a few high quality shots in that game.


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I watched the game and did I think it was a perfect game, hell no. But I didn't think the Oilers got their ass kicked but fluked out a 4-0 win. I thought they were wobbly early but settled down after the first 7 mins. Did Talbot have a very good game and played a big factor? 100% he did. But I would love to know how many times any team wins a game where their goalie wasn't better than the other guy. I bet it's pretty small.

This team has things to work on and the roster has hole in it big time but I don't ever like pissing on a win, especially when it's against a divisional opponent they HAD to beat to have any kind of chance.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 07 January 2019 08:56

But I didn't think the Oilers got their ass kicked but fluked out a 4-0 win.


Not remotely what I said.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 07 January 2019 09:00

Big win for the Oilers and a must have. They need another one.

For the game, I really don't put a lot of stock into shots, I think the amount of good scoring chances are more important. The Oilers scored 4 goals, without Gibson being good, they easily have way more. I thought Talbot played really well but I felt the Oilers have more good scoring chances than the Ducks. When a team brings the puck into your zone and fires a long range shot at your goal that has little chance of going in. Yes that counts as a shot on goal and yes that is going to hurt your overall corsi because it is a shot attempt but does it mean much if it has next to no chance of going in? Not really in my opinion.

One question I have is who to start next game. Usually you automatically start the goalie who got a shutout BUT in the case of the Oilers lately, it sure seems like every time a goalie has a good game and they get the next start, they crap the bed. I would lean to Talbot strictly because he got the shutout but they NEED these 2 guys to get on a roll.


This team will never accomplish anything if they can't put together at least decent multiple games in a row, including the goalies. I'd probably go with Talbot next game. Koskinen has been struggling, he might need some time to get it together and the added motivation of trying to win back starts.




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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 07 January 2019 09:54

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 07 January 2019 09:00

Big win for the Oilers and a must have. They need another one.

For the game, I really don't put a lot of stock into shots, I think the amount of good scoring chances are more important. The Oilers scored 4 goals, without Gibson being good, they easily have way more. I thought Talbot played really well but I felt the Oilers have more good scoring chances than the Ducks. When a team brings the puck into your zone and fires a long range shot at your goal that has little chance of going in. Yes that counts as a shot on goal and yes that is going to hurt your overall corsi because it is a shot attempt but does it mean much if it has next to no chance of going in? Not really in my opinion.

One question I have is who to start next game. Usually you automatically start the goalie who got a shutout BUT in the case of the Oilers lately, it sure seems like every time a goalie has a good game and they get the next start, they crap the bed. I would lean to Talbot strictly because he got the shutout but they NEED these 2 guys to get on a roll.


This team will never accomplish anything if they can't put together at least decent multiple games in a row, including the goalies. I'd probably go with Talbot next game. Koskinen has been struggling, he might need some time to get it together and the added motivation of trying to win back starts.



100% agree. I personally do not think that either guy is capable of being "the guy" who takes the bulk of the starts. They need both guys playing well or at the very least giving them decent NHL goaltending. What's NHL average goaltending these days? .910. That is the minimum they need from both guys every night. These guys BOTH need a new contract. It's put up or shut up time. Especially for Talbot. If I am any team, not just the Oilers, I am not keen on giving Talbot the starters reins next season based on last season and most of this year. If Talbot wants to get another starters job either in Edmonton or somewhere else, he needs to have a good second half.

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A big win haha. I have to admire some of the people here who still take the precious time out of their lives to watch and support this absolute garbage.


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philly boy wrote on Mon, 07 January 2019 14:48

A big win haha. I have to admire some of the people here who still take the precious time out of their lives to watch and support this absolute garbage.


C'mon man, the Oilers are all I got!



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WhoreableGuy wrote on Mon, 07 January 2019 17:03

philly boy wrote on Mon, 07 January 2019 14:48

A big win haha. I have to admire some of the people here who still take the precious time out of their lives to watch and support this absolute garbage.


C'mon man, the Oilers are all I got!


Haha. Exactly, however negative the majority of us are, we still want this team to succeed as we’re fans.



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Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 07 January 2019 16:33

WhoreableGuy wrote on Mon, 07 January 2019 17:03

philly boy wrote on Mon, 07 January 2019 14:48

A big win haha. I have to admire some of the people here who still take the precious time out of their lives to watch and support this absolute garbage.


C'mon man, the Oilers are all I got!


Haha. Exactly, however negative the majority of us are, we still want this team to succeed as we’re fans.


Exactly.

It's going to be even sweeter when we do end up winning.*

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WhoreableGuy wrote on Mon, 07 January 2019 17:58

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 07 January 2019 16:33

WhoreableGuy wrote on Mon, 07 January 2019 17:03

philly boy wrote on Mon, 07 January 2019 14:48

A big win haha. I have to admire some of the people here who still take the precious time out of their lives to watch and support this absolute garbage.


C'mon man, the Oilers are all I got!


Haha. Exactly, however negative the majority of us are, we still want this team to succeed as we’re fans.


Exactly.

It's going to be even sweeter when we do end up winning.*

*Quote has been said every year for the past 12 years


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Obviously we're further than those two occurrences, but that would be a great start!



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WhoreableGuy wrote on Mon, 07 January 2019 15:03

philly boy wrote on Mon, 07 January 2019 14:48

A big win haha. I have to admire some of the people here who still take the precious time out of their lives to watch and support this absolute garbage.


C'mon man, the Oilers are all I got!


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Yeah Talbot was the difference last night, played like a new man despite that performance in relief of Koskinen.

One play doesn't make me forget Lucic and his lack of team support. I think I'm permanently on the dislike the chump camp, I do not support him and to heck with his supporting role. He's a boat anchor of a contract and I would still sit the guy in the press box. Manning is better! (that could be the anger talking)

What a difference Russell makes because he stabilized the back end tire fire defense. I liked Nurse's engagement on Saturday and yesterday, the cross on Henrique is was lore is made out of. More of that please.

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Rocksteady wrote on Mon, 07 January 2019 10:01

Yeah Talbot was the difference last night, played like a new man despite that performance in relief of Koskinen.

One play doesn't make me forget Lucic and his lack of team support. I think I'm permanently on the dislike the chump camp, I do not support him and to heck with his supporting role. He's a boat anchor of a contract and I would still sit the guy in the press box. Manning is better! (that could be the anger talking)

What a difference Russell makes because he stabilized the back end tire fire defense. I liked Nurse's engagement on Saturday and yesterday, the cross on Henrique is was lore is made out of. More of that please.

One thing is for sure, this team ain't making the playoffs.


To be fair, Lucic did have a response in the Kings game - it was just really late and really lame. We haven't actually seen Lucic seek out trouble much in his time with the Oilers. That first game against the Flames, and then since then, if he's fought it's usually because some fourth liner asked him nicely.

The slash on Leipsic not only is not at all a deterrent, it's also not even retribution. He just randomly gave a minor tap to some guy not involved in the other dirty plays. If he'd at least slashed Carter or Doughty it would have been better. It is disturbing to have the propaganda voice of the Oilers suggest he didn't go after anyone of consequence because of his connections to those guys.

It's not just Lucic though - the Carter stuff was right in front of the bench. Everyone would have seen it. We were already getting fed our lunch in that game, so why doesn't someone - Nurse, Manning, Kassian, anyone - give him a facewash or a crosscheck on his next shift? It's not like surrendering a powerplay was going to be that big an issue...that game was lost early. At least you'd show you're not going to take that.

Yesterday, to his credit, Lucic played a big role in the fourth goal yesterday, if you aren't too critical of his blindly throwing the puck to the front of the net after forcing the turnover. Because of the fact he just gave the puck back, he didn't get an assist on the play, but the goal still doesn't likely happen without his forecheck there.




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