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 Re: Oilers trade Wideman and a 3rd for Petrovic [message #726184 is a reply to message #726130 ]
Sun, 30 December 2018 18:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
overdue  is currently offline overdue
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I agree with the Benning sentiment. He overplays for his ability and costs the team. Wideman looks like better forward material than defence. He's a good skater with decent puck skills but can't compete in the heavy going so I don't mind the trade for a bigger, stronger player who is likely an upgrade defensively. I guess Chia is stuck with what he can get at this stage to try to stay afloat so it's worth a shot. Too bad about the pick but they hardly ever pan out here anyway.


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 Re: Oilers trade Wideman and a 3rd for Petrovic [message #726629 is a reply to message #726184 ]
Sun, 06 January 2019 13:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/kings-place-scherbak-wai vers-wideman-schmaltz-also-waived/

Wideman already on waivers in Fla.

This team is a complete joke. Management needs to be involved in some kind of life altering freak accident that only leaves them unable to work for the team any longer. No other impairments.

I bet the NHL is not pleased with the Oilers for the last decade, getting too many players close to the pensionable service number while not being NHL calibre.



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 Re: Oilers trade Wideman and a 3rd for Petrovic [message #726631 is a reply to message #726629 ]
Sun, 06 January 2019 13:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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jerekybeef wrote on Sun, 06 January 2019 14:48

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/kings-place-scherbak-wai vers-wideman-schmaltz-also-waived/

Wideman already on waivers in Fla.

This team is a complete joke. Management needs to be involved in some kind of life altering freak accident that only leaves them unable to work for the team any longer. No other impairments.

I bet the NHL is not pleased with the Oilers for the last decade, getting too many players close to the pensionable service number while not being NHL calibre.


Eh, there’ll only be more players closer to that number with a 32nd team forthcoming.

In all seriousness, I wouldn’t be shocked if Chiarelli puts in a claim for Schmaltz or Scherbak.



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 Re: Oilers trade Wideman and a 3rd for Petrovic [message #726645 is a reply to message #726629 ]
Sun, 06 January 2019 15:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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jerekybeef wrote on Sun, 06 January 2019 13:48

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/kings-place-scherbak-wai vers-wideman-schmaltz-also-waived/

Wideman already on waivers in Fla.

This team is a complete joke. Management needs to be involved in some kind of life altering freak accident that only leaves them unable to work for the team any longer. No other impairments.

I bet the NHL is not pleased with the Oilers for the last decade, getting too many players close to the pensionable service number while not being NHL calibre.


Turns out we are the cap dump team for everyone. And we even pay teams with picks and last semi-useful once in a while wingers to take their cap dumps.



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 Re: Oilers trade Wideman and a 3rd for Petrovic [message #726119 is a reply to message #726096 ]
Sun, 30 December 2018 13:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Pick is conditional per McKenzie.

Quote:

Pending trade call with NHL. BTW, EDM has two third-round picks in 2019. FLA will get the better of the two picks. So, for now, it will be a conditional third round pick



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 Re: Oilers trade Wideman and a 3rd for Petrovic [message #726120 is a reply to message #726119 ]
Sun, 30 December 2018 13:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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smyth260 wrote on Sun, 30 December 2018 13:53

Pick is conditional per McKenzie.

Quote:

Pending trade call with NHL. BTW, EDM has two third-round picks in 2019. FLA will get the better of the two picks. So, for now, it will be a conditional third round pick



lol, can't just pick one to give, gotta concede it will definitely be the better one based on final standings. Why does this stuff always happen to us?

In any case, hope Petrovic can get his career back on track. I remember people holding him in high regard a few years ago, he was trending up. Hit a wall since though.



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 Re: Oilers trade Wideman and a 3rd for Petrovic [message #726123 is a reply to message #726120 ]
Sun, 30 December 2018 14:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kr55 wrote on Sun, 30 December 2018 13:55

smyth260 wrote on Sun, 30 December 2018 13:53

Pick is conditional per McKenzie.

Quote:

Pending trade call with NHL. BTW, EDM has two third-round picks in 2019. FLA will get the better of the two picks. So, for now, it will be a conditional third round pick



lol, can't just pick one to give, gotta concede it will definitely be the better one based on final standings. Why does this stuff always happen to us?

In any case, hope Petrovic can get his career back on track. I remember people holding him in high regard a few years ago, he was trending up. Hit a wall since though.


With our scouting supposedly improved, why are we so quick to throw draft picks away for marginal NHLers?

To me, this is more shuffling around of the deck chairs. Petrovic doesn’t help any of this team’s long term areas of need, he’s simply another 6/7 defenceman.

Ive said it before but this season is starting to feel like a redux of the MacTavish era where we make band aid trades in the hopes of hitting a surprise home run.

I do wonder who is making the trade calls these days. It felt yesterday like Chia is at the end of his rope with even Stauffer very critical of him.



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 Re: Oilers trade Wideman and a 3rd for Petrovic [message #726126 is a reply to message #726123 ]
Sun, 30 December 2018 15:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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When it comes to Wideman, it didn't hurt to give him a try but when ANY coaching staff decides it's better to play Jason Garrison over you, you are not a good player in my books. Garrison's days as an NHLer are over and he took playing time from Wideman. That's not good.

When it comes to Petrovic, the Oilers need 6 solid guys to play every night. They definitely do not have that now with the injuries and even when they are fully healthy, I do not know if they would have it. Benning can't be a top 4 and on a lot of nights, he doesn't even look capable of being a 3rd pairing guy. He's in this 3rd season with 168 games so far and the guy is sooooo inconsistent. They gave up a 3rd round pick when they have 2 of them. A lot of 3rd round picks don't ever make the NHL and if they do they are what 4-5 years away from their draft year? Chair is a good example. He was a 3rd rounder taken in June 2012. He played 69 games last year and has been in most games this year. So he's probably now considered a NHLer. It took him 6 years to make the NHL other than a cup of coffee. If Petrovic can come in, give the Oilers some decent mins and help them now, sacrificing a pick that MIGHT get you a player 6 years from now, isn't that big of a cost in my opinion.



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 Re: Oilers trade Wideman and a 3rd for Petrovic [message #726137 is a reply to message #726123 ]
Sun, 30 December 2018 15:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Adam wrote on Sun, 30 December 2018 21:23

With our scouting supposedly improved, why are we so quick to throw draft picks away for marginal NHLers?


Cuz with a 'generational talent' this team should be perennial cup contenders. That implies win now all the time. Better to improve the team now than worry about a 3rd rounder in the future.



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 Re: Oilers trade Wideman and a 3rd for Petrovic [message #726128 is a reply to message #726096 ]
Sun, 30 December 2018 15:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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He seems to be in the mold of Kris Russell. If he is, I'll take that.
Seems to have been a big part of the Panthers plans as recently as the start of this year, but his ice time has declined. That may be a red flag.
Better than Wideman, almost assuredly, but a 3rd round pick is not a small asset.
Let's just give him time to show what he can do.



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 Re: Oilers trade Wideman and a 3rd for Petrovic [message #726207 is a reply to message #726096 ]
Mon, 31 December 2018 09:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kr55  is currently offline Kr55
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Hitch press conference yesterday may be a bit concerning to some. Long rants about how we haven't been defending well and need size to break up cycles. I think these moves to add big physical D (Manning with a nasty streak) were done in part to appease a void Hitch feels the team has.


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 Re: Oilers trade Wideman and a 3rd for Petrovic [message #726209 is a reply to message #726096 ]
Mon, 31 December 2018 10:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Take Chia's phone away, Petrovic I can sort of see, sort of.

Manning?

Like everyone else.. take Chia's phone away.



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