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 The Good Place [message #720340]
Tue, 16 October 2018 18:53 Go to next message
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Somewhere there is a world in which:

1) MacTavish doesn't botch up the Petry situation and signs him to an extension.
2) Peter Chiarelli makes only one trade (Talbot).
3) The only players Peter Chiarelli signs are Matt Benning (college UFA), Patrick Maroon (Oilers UFA), Jeff Petry (Oilers UFA), and Tyler Pitlick (Oilers UFA).

In that world, this is the team they are watching tonight instead:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DpqXUeNU8AEBRpc.jpg:large

Every one on this list was an asset the Oilers had when they drafted McDavid, except for three players (Petry was traded a few months earlier, Benning was signed a few months later, and Puljujarvi was selected the next year, after McDavid's rookie year).

It's not flawless, but the same flaws they currently have (2RD, 2G) and $7M cap space to resolve. But it a team with far fewer flaws, and more financial flexibility.

This team was assembled by:

a) making only one trade (Talbot)
b) not signing Lucic, Russell, Koskinen, Kassian, Reider, Gryba
c) signing Maroon, Pitlick, and Petry

And maybe they don't draft Barzal. But I didn't included any draft picks from 2016 or any signings after; they probably still would have picked around #22 (Yamamoto), and Rattie has been a great signing in that spot.

Anyways, watching the Oilers get kicked to the ground over the next five games, it just makes me wonder what could have been. There would have been some cap issues with them next summer, but this is a team set up for success and the ability to seriously challenge. And all it required was doing very little.

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Can someone send this to Katz, please. If someone managed his pharmacy empire this poorly, they'd have been out of a job after 6 months.


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 Re: The Good Place [message #720427 is a reply to message #720350 ]
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Yeah that D, no.


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Ales Cooper wrote on Wed, 17 October 2018 00:35

Yeah that D, no.


Agreed, and yet arguably not worse, or not much worse, than what the Oilers currently have.

Petry and Larsson are different in their style, but probably about equal in ability. I'd have both of them as kind of #2/3 defensemen, guys who can play on the top-pairing with another good partner. Petry put up 40+ points last year, put up 28 points the year before that; Larsson put up 13 and 19, but is perhaps better defensively.

Russell is a somewhat better than Davidson, though six times the cost.

And that's it. For all the talk about upgrading the defense, that's the only difference from what the Oilers have right now.

The whole $7M to play with to add a Faulk or Karlsson when they hit the market would also be helpful.



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 Re: The Good Place [message #720430 is a reply to message #720340 ]
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mightyreasoner wrote on Tue, 16 October 2018 18:53

Somewhere there is a world in which:

1) MacTavish doesn't botch up the Petry situation and signs him to an extension.
2) Peter Chiarelli makes only one trade (Talbot).
3) The only players Peter Chiarelli signs are Matt Benning (college UFA), Patrick Maroon (Oilers UFA), Jeff Petry (Oilers UFA), and Tyler Pitlick (Oilers UFA).

In that world, this is the team they are watching tonight instead:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DpqXUeNU8AEBRpc.jpg:large

Every one on this list was an asset the Oilers had when they drafted McDavid, except for three players (Petry was traded a few months earlier, Benning was signed a few months later, and Puljujarvi was selected the next year, after McDavid's rookie year).

It's not flawless, but the same flaws they currently have (2RD, 2G) and $7M cap space to resolve. But it a team with far fewer flaws, and more financial flexibility.

This team was assembled by:

a) making only one trade (Talbot)
b) not signing Lucic, Russell, Koskinen, Kassian, Reider, Gryba
c) signing Maroon, Pitlick, and Petry

And maybe they don't draft Barzal. But I didn't included any draft picks from 2016 or any signings after; they probably still would have picked around #22 (Yamamoto), and Rattie has been a great signing in that spot.

Anyways, watching the Oilers get kicked to the ground over the next five games, it just makes me wonder what could have been. There would have been some cap issues with them next summer, but this is a team set up for success and the ability to seriously challenge. And all it required was doing very little.


Your forward group better set records in goals because that defense core is even worse that what the Oilers have now. I am not justifying any of the moves because things didn't work on a lot of them but that defense is horrible.

Anyone think there will ever come a day where the past isn't brought up over and over again? The past sucks, no doubt. But the Oilers came back to win a game against one of the best teams in the league last night on the road and they looked good doing it. Doesn't change the fact that sins happened, doesn't change the fact that the roster has flaws. But they came together as a team, actually PLAYED HARD and they won in against a really, really good team. So what value does having this open do other than to piss people off? Can't we just have a few days without being miserable.



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 Re: The Good Place [message #720432 is a reply to message #720430 ]
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RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 17 October 2018 08:29

mightyreasoner wrote on Tue, 16 October 2018 18:53

Somewhere there is a world in which:

1) MacTavish doesn't botch up the Petry situation and signs him to an extension.
2) Peter Chiarelli makes only one trade (Talbot).
3) The only players Peter Chiarelli signs are Matt Benning (college UFA), Patrick Maroon (Oilers UFA), Jeff Petry (Oilers UFA), and Tyler Pitlick (Oilers UFA).

In that world, this is the team they are watching tonight instead:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DpqXUeNU8AEBRpc.jpg:large

Every one on this list was an asset the Oilers had when they drafted McDavid, except for three players (Petry was traded a few months earlier, Benning was signed a few months later, and Puljujarvi was selected the next year, after McDavid's rookie year).

It's not flawless, but the same flaws they currently have (2RD, 2G) and $7M cap space to resolve. But it a team with far fewer flaws, and more financial flexibility.

This team was assembled by:

a) making only one trade (Talbot)
b) not signing Lucic, Russell, Koskinen, Kassian, Reider, Gryba
c) signing Maroon, Pitlick, and Petry

And maybe they don't draft Barzal. But I didn't included any draft picks from 2016 or any signings after; they probably still would have picked around #22 (Yamamoto), and Rattie has been a great signing in that spot.

Anyways, watching the Oilers get kicked to the ground over the next five games, it just makes me wonder what could have been. There would have been some cap issues with them next summer, but this is a team set up for success and the ability to seriously challenge. And all it required was doing very little.


Your forward group better set records in goals because that defense core is even worse that what the Oilers have now. I am not justifying any of the moves because things didn't work on a lot of them but that defense is horrible.

Anyone think there will ever come a day where the past isn't brought up over and over again? The past sucks, no doubt. But the Oilers came back to win a game against one of the best teams in the league last night on the road and they looked good doing it. Doesn't change the fact that sins happened, doesn't change the fact that the roster has flaws. But they came together as a team, actually PLAYED HARD and they won in against a really, really good team. So what value does having this open do other than to piss people off? Can't we just have a few days without being miserable.

I'd argue that McDavid looked good single-handedly winning that game for the Oilers. Wins like last night are the absolute worst thing that can happen right now because it extends the careers of the GM and coach. I agree that there comes a time when the past doesn't matter, but when the guy still has the job and the potential to further wreck the team's future these discussions aren't out of place.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 17 October 2018 08:29


Anyone think there will ever come a day where the past isn't brought up over and over again? The past sucks, no doubt. But the Oilers came back to win a game against one of the best teams in the league last night on the road and they looked good doing it. Doesn't change the fact that sins happened, doesn't change the fact that the roster has flaws. But they came together as a team, actually PLAYED HARD and they won in against a really, really good team. So what value does having this open do other than to piss people off? Can't we just have a few days without being miserable.


Maybe when those responsible for the past mistakes aren't still drawing a paycheque and making further blunders with the franchise, it'll be a lot easier to look past the stain they've left on this organization.

You're like Marshall Petain in the Vichy government circa 1944 - "Why is everyone so down on the Germans? Yes, they've killed a lot of people, but lately it's not been THAT bad..."



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Adam wrote on Wed, 17 October 2018 09:49

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 17 October 2018 08:29


Anyone think there will ever come a day where the past isn't brought up over and over again? The past sucks, no doubt. But the Oilers came back to win a game against one of the best teams in the league last night on the road and they looked good doing it. Doesn't change the fact that sins happened, doesn't change the fact that the roster has flaws. But they came together as a team, actually PLAYED HARD and they won in against a really, really good team. So what value does having this open do other than to piss people off? Can't we just have a few days without being miserable.


Maybe when those responsible for the past mistakes aren't still drawing a paycheque and making further blunders with the franchise, it'll be a lot easier to look past the stain they've left on this organization.

You're like Marshall Petain in the Vichy government circa 1944 - "Why is everyone so down on the Germans? Yes, they've killed a lot of people, but lately it's not been THAT bad..."


You know what. If some miracle happened and all the Oilers woes were fixed during this season and the offseason and they won the cup next year and the year after. You strike me as the type that would still bring up the past.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 17 October 2018 09:52


You know what. If some miracle happened and all the Oilers woes were fixed during this season and the offseason and they won the cup next year and the year after. You strike me as the type that would still bring up the past.


Unfortunately, with this franchise, we're probably never going to have a chance to find out.



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Goose wrote on Wed, 17 October 2018 11:12

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 17 October 2018 09:52


You know what. If some miracle happened and all the Oilers woes were fixed during this season and the offseason and they won the cup next year and the year after. You strike me as the type that would still bring up the past.


Unfortunately, with this franchise, we're probably never going to have a chance to find out.

What if the miracle was a complete upper, lower management and coaching housecleaning?



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CrudeRemarks wrote on Wed, 17 October 2018 11:19

Goose wrote on Wed, 17 October 2018 11:12

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 17 October 2018 09:52


You know what. If some miracle happened and all the Oilers woes were fixed during this season and the offseason and they won the cup next year and the year after. You strike me as the type that would still bring up the past.


Unfortunately, with this franchise, we're probably never going to have a chance to find out.

What if the miracle was a complete upper, lower management and coaching housecleaning?

If things don't go well this year, I firmly believe heads will roll.

Que Adam talking about Katz, old boys club, Nicholson is terrible, blah, blah, blah.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 17 October 2018 11:52

CrudeRemarks wrote on Wed, 17 October 2018 11:19

Goose wrote on Wed, 17 October 2018 11:12

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 17 October 2018 09:52


You know what. If some miracle happened and all the Oilers woes were fixed during this season and the offseason and they won the cup next year and the year after. You strike me as the type that would still bring up the past.


Unfortunately, with this franchise, we're probably never going to have a chance to find out.

What if the miracle was a complete upper, lower management and coaching housecleaning?

If things don't go well this year, I firmly believe heads will roll.

Que Adam talking about Katz, old boys club, Nicholson is terrible, blah, blah, blah.

FYI i think having your opinion on here is nice because it contrasts with most others and creates discussion. But the constant preemptive "adam is so negative" comments get tired.

If you look back at past topics you'll find:
1) He is usually pretty reasoned in his approach
2) He's 100% right about Katz, OBC, Nicholson, Lowe etc.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 17 October 2018 11:52

CrudeRemarks wrote on Wed, 17 October 2018 11:19

Goose wrote on Wed, 17 October 2018 11:12

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 17 October 2018 09:52


You know what. If some miracle happened and all the Oilers woes were fixed during this season and the offseason and they won the cup next year and the year after. You strike me as the type that would still bring up the past.


Unfortunately, with this franchise, we're probably never going to have a chance to find out.

What if the miracle was a complete upper, lower management and coaching housecleaning?

If things don't go well this year, I firmly believe heads will roll.

Que Adam talking about Katz, old boys club, Nicholson is terrible, blah, blah, blah.


Can I do it instead? :)

OBC, Nicholson and Chia very likely are hoping that firing McLellan can buy them an extra year or 2. No doubt they are relieved that McDavid is single-handedly saving McLellan's job a bit longer.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 17 October 2018 10:52

Adam wrote on Wed, 17 October 2018 09:49

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 17 October 2018 08:29


Anyone think there will ever come a day where the past isn't brought up over and over again? The past sucks, no doubt. But the Oilers came back to win a game against one of the best teams in the league last night on the road and they looked good doing it. Doesn't change the fact that sins happened, doesn't change the fact that the roster has flaws. But they came together as a team, actually PLAYED HARD and they won in against a really, really good team. So what value does having this open do other than to piss people off? Can't we just have a few days without being miserable.


Maybe when those responsible for the past mistakes aren't still drawing a paycheque and making further blunders with the franchise, it'll be a lot easier to look past the stain they've left on this organization.

You're like Marshall Petain in the Vichy government circa 1944 - "Why is everyone so down on the Germans? Yes, they've killed a lot of people, but lately it's not been THAT bad..."


You know what. If some miracle happened and all the Oilers woes were fixed during this season and the offseason and they won the cup next year and the year after. You strike me as the type that would still bring up the past.


You mean like the Oilers all they talk about is the glory days? Look over here in the 80's when we were good, don't look at the results today.



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Yea yea yea, blah blah blah. These posts are done weekly on CF. We get it, no sense on in dwelling on it.


This forum has turned into a pessimistic cesspool of bitching and whining about the same topics consistently.

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PoolParty wrote on Thu, 18 October 2018 09:26

Yea yea yea, blah blah blah. These posts are done weekly on CF. We get it, no sense on in dwelling on it.


See - this seems pretty negative. How come the guys preaching sunshine and roses always seem the most grouchy?



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PoolParty wrote on Thu, 18 October 2018 09:26

Yea yea yea, blah blah blah. These posts are done weekly on CF. We get it, no sense on in dwelling on it.


What are you doing on CF? icon_wink

Honestly, the frustrating thing here is that it isn't wild "what ifs". Theres no Karlsson's added here. This is strictly assets they had and choices they made or didn't make. This was basically if they did minimal work and let things mature. It's not perfect. It is miles better than where Chiarelli took us.

I don't know if I would be fully over these past, costly mistakes with new staff... I really believe some of the decisions have cost the Oilers in the past, present, and will continue to cost them in the future. But it is hard not to find relevance when the same people who took that lineup to the one we have now are still the ones in the war room making the decisions for the future. What possible confidence can anyone have after seeing what basically having a vacant position vs. having Chiarelli in that position.



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mightyreasoner wrote on Thu, 18 October 2018 12:18

PoolParty wrote on Thu, 18 October 2018 09:26

Yea yea yea, blah blah blah. These posts are done weekly on CF. We get it, no sense on in dwelling on it.


What are you doing on CF? icon_wink

Honestly, the frustrating thing here is that it isn't wild "what ifs". Theres no Karlsson's added here. This is strictly assets they had and choices they made or didn't make. This was basically if they did minimal work and let things mature. It's not perfect. It is miles better than where Chiarelli took us.

I don't know if I would be fully over these past, costly mistakes with new staff... I really believe some of the decisions have cost the Oilers in the past, present, and will continue to cost them in the future. But it is hard not to find relevance when the same people who took that lineup to the one we have now are still the ones in the war room making the decisions for the future. What possible confidence can anyone have after seeing what basically having a vacant position vs. having Chiarelli in that position.


Literally anyone off the street could have done as well as Chiarelli over the last three years.

Although, would Average Guy off the Street be as popular with other GMs and player agents as Chia is though?



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McDavid97 wrote on Thu, 18 October 2018 08:44

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 17 October 2018 10:52

Adam wrote on Wed, 17 October 2018 09:49

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 17 October 2018 08:29


Anyone think there will ever come a day where the past isn't brought up over and over again? The past sucks, no doubt. But the Oilers came back to win a game against one of the best teams in the league last night on the road and they looked good doing it. Doesn't change the fact that sins happened, doesn't change the fact that the roster has flaws. But they came together as a team, actually PLAYED HARD and they won in against a really, really good team. So what value does having this open do other than to piss people off? Can't we just have a few days without being miserable.


Maybe when those responsible for the past mistakes aren't still drawing a paycheque and making further blunders with the franchise, it'll be a lot easier to look past the stain they've left on this organization.

You're like Marshall Petain in the Vichy government circa 1944 - "Why is everyone so down on the Germans? Yes, they've killed a lot of people, but lately it's not been THAT bad..."


You know what. If some miracle happened and all the Oilers woes were fixed during this season and the offseason and they won the cup next year and the year after. You strike me as the type that would still bring up the past.


You mean like the Oilers all they talk about is the glory days? Look over here in the 80's when we were good, don't look at the results today.


It does seem really odd that there isn't some $250/plate dinner scheduled this winter...

Surely there must be some reason to celebrate. It IS 30 years since the 1988 Cup...and 2019 will be 35 years since Cup #1...I think this is the 40th season of Oilers hockey too (as long as you include 2004-05 in that). How are Oilers fans going to get through this long winter without being invited to come along a trip down memory road - a Red Wine Summit for us all!



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Adam wrote on Thu, 18 October 2018 11:17

McDavid97 wrote on Thu, 18 October 2018 08:44

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 17 October 2018 10:52

Adam wrote on Wed, 17 October 2018 09:49

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 17 October 2018 08:29


Anyone think there will ever come a day where the past isn't brought up over and over again? The past sucks, no doubt. But the Oilers came back to win a game against one of the best teams in the league last night on the road and they looked good doing it. Doesn't change the fact that sins happened, doesn't change the fact that the roster has flaws. But they came together as a team, actually PLAYED HARD and they won in against a really, really good team. So what value does having this open do other than to piss people off? Can't we just have a few days without being miserable.


Maybe when those responsible for the past mistakes aren't still drawing a paycheque and making further blunders with the franchise, it'll be a lot easier to look past the stain they've left on this organization.

You're like Marshall Petain in the Vichy government circa 1944 - "Why is everyone so down on the Germans? Yes, they've killed a lot of people, but lately it's not been THAT bad..."


You know what. If some miracle happened and all the Oilers woes were fixed during this season and the offseason and they won the cup next year and the year after. You strike me as the type that would still bring up the past.


You mean like the Oilers all they talk about is the glory days? Look over here in the 80's when we were good, don't look at the results today.


It does seem really odd that there isn't some $250/plate dinner scheduled this winter...

Surely there must be some reason to celebrate. It IS 30 years since the 1988 Cup...and 2019 will be 35 years since Cup #1...I think this is the 40th season of Oilers hockey too (as long as you include 2004-05 in that). How are Oilers fans going to get through this long winter without being invited to come along a trip down memory road - a Red Wine Summit for us all!


Not sure if people knew this, but you can have your own OBC wine summit at home any time you please! http://www.gretzkyestateswines.com/shop/wine.html

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Kr55 wrote on Thu, 18 October 2018 11:22


Not sure if people knew this, but you can have your own OBC wine summit at home any time you please! http://www.gretzkyestateswines.com/shop/wine.html

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You really need to throw in the nostalgia though or it's not the same. May I suggest a trip down to Blockbuster to pick up these video tapes?

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Adam wrote on Thu, 18 October 2018 11:17

McDavid97 wrote on Thu, 18 October 2018 08:44

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 17 October 2018 10:52

Adam wrote on Wed, 17 October 2018 09:49

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 17 October 2018 08:29


Anyone think there will ever come a day where the past isn't brought up over and over again? The past sucks, no doubt. But the Oilers came back to win a game against one of the best teams in the league last night on the road and they looked good doing it. Doesn't change the fact that sins happened, doesn't change the fact that the roster has flaws. But they came together as a team, actually PLAYED HARD and they won in against a really, really good team. So what value does having this open do other than to piss people off? Can't we just have a few days without being miserable.


Maybe when those responsible for the past mistakes aren't still drawing a paycheque and making further blunders with the franchise, it'll be a lot easier to look past the stain they've left on this organization.

You're like Marshall Petain in the Vichy government circa 1944 - "Why is everyone so down on the Germans? Yes, they've killed a lot of people, but lately it's not been THAT bad..."


You know what. If some miracle happened and all the Oilers woes were fixed during this season and the offseason and they won the cup next year and the year after. You strike me as the type that would still bring up the past.


You mean like the Oilers all they talk about is the glory days? Look over here in the 80's when we were good, don't look at the results today.


It does seem really odd that there isn't some $250/plate dinner scheduled this winter...

Surely there must be some reason to celebrate. It IS 30 years since the 1988 Cup...and 2019 will be 35 years since Cup #1...I think this is the 40th season of Oilers hockey too (as long as you include 2004-05 in that). How are Oilers fans going to get through this long winter without being invited to come along a trip down memory road - a Red Wine Summit for us all!


Don't give them ideas. It likely will happen.

I have a belief that all future 80's events should be forced to be hosted in the Coliseum since that is where the glory took place. Old and worn out? You bet it is.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 17 October 2018 10:52

Adam wrote on Wed, 17 October 2018 09:49

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 17 October 2018 08:29


Anyone think there will ever come a day where the past isn't brought up over and over again? The past sucks, no doubt. But the Oilers came back to win a game against one of the best teams in the league last night on the road and they looked good doing it. Doesn't change the fact that sins happened, doesn't change the fact that the roster has flaws. But they came together as a team, actually PLAYED HARD and they won in against a really, really good team. So what value does having this open do other than to piss people off? Can't we just have a few days without being miserable.


Maybe when those responsible for the past mistakes aren't still drawing a paycheque and making further blunders with the franchise, it'll be a lot easier to look past the stain they've left on this organization.

You're like Marshall Petain in the Vichy government circa 1944 - "Why is everyone so down on the Germans? Yes, they've killed a lot of people, but lately it's not been THAT bad..."


You know what. If some miracle happened and all the Oilers woes were fixed during this season and the offseason and they won the cup next year and the year after. You strike me as the type that would still bring up the past.


For what it's worth, I still think the Nazis suck and that WAS 70-odd years ago.

I'd love to see the Oilers win again. I just think that bad management and bad coaching is a LOT to overcome, even for McDavid. It's hard to win when you have competent management and coaching! I really believe the best chance we have of winning comes if those people aren't in the organization. There's considerable evidence to suggest I'm right on that too...



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Thanks to the butterfly effect, Sekera is healthy in this version of history :)


This is the "what if we hired Shero" version of events. Shero was hired ~2 weeks after Chia was.



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