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 Chia considering moves involving Klefbom, Nuge [message #708873]
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In the category of things that should surprise no one, the Oilers are apparently investigating the possibility of trading one of their best defencemen for a scoring winger. Of course, Klefbom’s had a disaster of a season dealing with injury issues that apparently date to last year’s playoffs but the team does have the M.O. of trading players when their value is at its lowest so expect to see the team pick up a solid third line winger for Klefbom and then to next year question why they have a deficiency on defence. And possibly on wing too. No word on whether Chia would consider trading Larsson for Taylor Hall.

https://www.thefourthperiod.com/feb-2018/oilers-willing-to-l isten-on-klefbom/



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If 77 or 93 is delay, will Chia most likely win or lose the trade?[ 56 vote(s) ]
1.He will win the trade! Playoffs here we come!!! 3 / 5%
2.Are you kidding? He is getting taken to the woodshed...again. 53 / 95%

And a poll!

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Is the 4th period reliable? Thought it was an eklund-like site?

I choose to hope this is not true :)



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Kr55 wrote on Fri, 09 February 2018 21:53

Is the 4th period reliable? Thought it was an eklund-like site?

I choose to hope this is not true :)


I hope you’re right. The problem is it seems so Oilers to move Nuge and Klefbom this summer...and to get robbed on the deal too...



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 Re: Chia considering moves involving Klefbom, Nuge [message #708888 is a reply to message #708886 ]
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Adam wrote on Fri, 09 February 2018 22:16

Kr55 wrote on Fri, 09 February 2018 21:53

Is the 4th period reliable? Thought it was an eklund-like site?

I choose to hope this is not true :)


I hope you’re right. The problem is it seems so Oilers to move Nuge and Klefbom this summer...and to get robbed on the deal too...


All I can really say to that is, damn this new lottery system! 31st can end up with the 4th overall pick. Damn NHL.



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That would be ultra stupid given that this year's UFA crop half decent at FW. We do have a logjam on the LD with Klef, Sekera, Nurse, Russell, and Davidson, but Nuge at 6MM and Klef at 4MM until 2022-2023 is worth way more than wingers that are likely on the chopping block this offseason.


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Klefbom is playing absolutely out of his mind this season...

As in mindlessly.

He needs to figure out his s#@& fast.



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HamBlaster wrote on Fri, 09 February 2018 22:45

Klefbom is playing absolutely out of his mind this season...

As in mindlessly.

He needs to figure out his s#@& fast.


I’ll tell you a secret: It doesn’t matter.

We are not making the playoffs. He’s been injured all year. If he needs surgery, it’s time to shut him down. This season is a waste now. Klefbom is at his lowest value of possibly his whole career. The Oilers shouldn’t consider trading him now because they won’t get enough to make it worth while, especially since every GM in the league knows that Chiarelli is a doormat. There is no chance we get fair value for him so we are better off keeping him.



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What doesn’t matter? That he’s been playing like a borderline NHLer for the entire season? Long before we were out of contention, he was playing like this.

I’d say it matters. He needs to find his game again for us to be competitive.

I’m not advocating for Klef to be traded, I’m praying to the gods that he figures out whatever is happening in the grey matter.



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 Re: Chia considering moves involving Klefbom, Nuge [message #708923 is a reply to message #708902 ]
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Don’t trade Klefbom. If it’s just a bad season then you ride it out and reevaluate next year.

Don’t trade Nuge. Period.

The idea you trade rare commodities in D and C for a winger is so Oilers.

[Updated on: Sat, 10 February 2018 15:13]


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nullterm wrote on Sat, 10 February 2018 15:11

Don’t trade Klefbom. If it’s just a bad season then you ride it out and reevaluate next year.

Don’t trade Nuge. Period.

The idea you trade rare commodities in D and C for a winger is so Oilers.


God I hope they are already evaluating the guys that are in charge of reevaluating.



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The only way i would consider moving Kelfbom would be for a true #1 D man. OEL, Doughty, E.Karlsson.


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Something something emergence of Darnell Nurse something something Klefbom expendable.

It will be ridiculous if they trade Klefbom. He is one of the few value contracts on the Oilers.

FFS. Trade Yamamoto. Trade this year's first rounder (after we lose the lottery). Trade next year's first rounder. Trade Puljuljarvi 2 years ago when we already had Hall and Eberle. Stop filling small holes and creating bigger ones.

We need an interim GM before any more permanent damage is done.



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The Fourth Period is garbage, they are not reputable in the slightest.

I know we all love dumping on... well, anyone involved in management really, but I think this is kind of pointless to debate. Unless this was secretly intended to be a venting thread, in which case, I understand, have at it lol.

And in the respect of giving a serious response, I would say, even Chiarelli wouldn’t be stupid enough to do this, at this point of the season no less. Again, it’s the Fourth Period...

Changes will be made of some sort at the end of the season, I don’t doubt it, but I also don’t believe the team was this bad. They got every break last year, they caught none this season, everything has gone wrong, and weaknesses are being magnified to the -enth degree.

Not saying I like Chia or the current state, I simply doubt they’re that dumb to make moves like this, particularly with Klefbom. As an aside I should also say that while Klef has struggled this year, I don’t think he’s a real top pairing defenceman. I think he’s a good 2/3. His deal gives him greater value than what he provides as a player IMO. Still a young player who is growing, truth is somewhere in the middle.

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Unless it's from a source like Friedman, Dreger or MacKenzie who are about as hooked up as it gets, I don't take anything serious when it comes to rumor sites. That being said, other than McDaivd and probably Drai, is anyone untouchable on this team? Based on how everything has gone, I would say no.

I personally wouldn't be looking to trade Klefbom or Nuge but in saying that, if they could get say a right shooting, PP QB, puck moving Dman who's similar in where he slots in as Klefbom and the cost was Klefbom, I don't know how you don't listen.

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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 12 February 2018 08:24

Unless it's from a source like Friedman, Dreger or MacKenzie who are about as hooked up as it gets, I don't take anything serious when it comes to rumor sites. That being said, other than McDaivd and probably Drai, is anyone untouchable on this team? Based on how everything has gone, I would say no.

I personally wouldn't be looking to trade Klefbom or Nuge but in saying that, if they could get say a right shooting, PP QB, puck moving Dman who's similar in where he slots in as Klefbom and the cost was Klefbom, I don't know how you don't listen.


The problem, of course, is that you're trading at least one of those assets at the bottom (Klefbom), who is a much better defenceman than he's shown this season. And in either case, you just -know- Chiarelli's not getting value for either player, because he's terrible at negotiating.

In a perfect world where I trusted our GM, trading Nuge isn't the -worst- idea ever, even though he's one of my favourite players. Strome hasn't done terribly as our 3rd center, and if you give him decent linemates I think he does better. That way, you get some help on the wings and you can build a more balanced team.

In reality, Chiarelli trades Nuge for a 4th line winger and tells us that's the price of doing business.



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Klefbom needs a new shoulder and should be sent to the IR right away to get that fixed, why does he hang around?

Oh yeah to be traded.. makes sense.. makes perfect sense. Nuge? Why not?

I can't even..



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Rocksteady wrote on Mon, 12 February 2018 09:34

Klefbom needs a new shoulder and should be sent to the IR right away to get that fixed, why does he hang around?

Oh yeah to be traded.. makes sense.. makes perfect sense. Nuge? Why not?

I can't even..


Given Chia's track record, the level of return that he'd actually accept in trades involving Klef and Nuge actually frighten me.



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Rocksteady wrote on Mon, 12 February 2018 09:34

Klefbom needs a new shoulder and should be sent to the IR right away to get that fixed, why does he hang around?

Oh yeah to be traded.. makes sense.. makes perfect sense. Nuge? Why not?

I can't even..



....agreed...Klefbom has a history of serious injuries and needs to be repaired, not traded....

....Freidman's 31 thoughts for this week are once again quite thoughtful, including one involving Klefbom....

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/31-thoughts-no-shortage-r ick-nash-suitors-ahead-deadline/

...."21. Edmonton has three forwards in important roles without a goal in almost 20 games: Michael Cammalleri, Milan Lucic and Ryan Strome. It has been a hard year for Anton Slepyshev. He was benched and offered to anyone who wanted him. He’s got three points in the last four games. Maybe it’s time to give him a run over the last two months. Solving your problems internally is always preferable, even if better late than never.

22. Don’t know if Oscar Klefbom needs some kind of surgery, but he hasn’t looked right all year. Wonder if we’re getting to the point he’s shut down to get ready for next season."....

....I agree with his thought that solving problems internally is preferable...the NHL has all kinds of former Oilers thriving in limited-to-significant roles that the team dealt away for a handful of magic beans.....when will Katz recognize that he can't get all that lucrative playoff income by continuing to pay homage to the 1980's?....I've always wondered if the Oilers were lousy at drafting or development.....to me, development is clearly the issue




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Adam wrote on Fri, 09 February 2018 20:31

In the category of things that should surprise no one, the Oilers are apparently investigating the possibility of trading one of their best defencemen for a scoring winger. Of course, Klefbom’s had a disaster of a season dealing with injury issues that apparently date to last year’s playoffs but the team does have the M.O. of trading players when their value is at its lowest so expect to see the team pick up a solid third line winger for Klefbom and then to next year question why they have a deficiency on defence. And possibly on wing too. No word on whether Chia would consider trading Larsson for Taylor Hall.

https://www.thefourthperiod.com/feb-2018/oilers-willing-to-l isten-on-klefbom/


If a nagging injury for Klef has anything to do with the level of his play, I would honestly question at this stage of the game why he hasn't been shut down.....plus the whole concept of addition by subtraction.



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Rishaug speculating today that the Oilers will be "big game hunting" for a RD this summer and threw Klefbom's name out there. Based on the verbal from the media this year, I think they are 100% going to move Klefbom.

Rishaug throws out Ristolainen's name as Buffalo will be drafting Dahlin 1st overall. Risto is about $1.3M more than Klefbom and a worse player imo (when both are healthy). Risto scores a decent amount of PP points, but he's not a very good defender. The x-factor with Klefbom is of course his health (or lack thereof), which is a negative on his resume. But again, while maybe not on the level of the Hall/Eberle trades, this would be a downgrade in value, an increase in cap, and would be trading low on Klefbom. So pretty sure this is going to happen.

But then Rishaug also speculates (I think), that the Oilers might do Klef and the 10th pick, which would be a disaster. Rishaug says, "that pick", which I think is referring to the 10th overall, as he was talking about Chiarelli saying it was on the table earlier in the segment.

Klefbom speculation starts about 4:30:

https://www.tsn.ca/radio/edmonton-1260/audio/rishaug-oilers- will-go-big-game-hunting-for-blue-line-help-1.1086832



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Only the Oilers could think that they can improve their defense by trading away a defenseman in their mid twenties.


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smyth260 wrote on Wed, 16 May 2018 14:38

Only the Oilers could think that they can improve their defense by trading away a defenseman in their mid twenties.

One on a very cap friendly contract too, and selling low after probably his worst season. Did they forget already how great he was the season prior? crazy



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Goose wrote on Wed, 16 May 2018 13:58

Rishaug speculating today that the Oilers will be "big game hunting" for a RD this summer and threw Klefbom's name out there. Based on the verbal from the media this year, I think they are 100% going to move Klefbom.

Rishaug throws out Ristolainen's name as Buffalo will be drafting Dahlin 1st overall. Risto is about $1.3M more than Klefbom and a worse player imo (when both are healthy). Risto scores a decent amount of PP points, but he's not a very good defender. The x-factor with Klefbom is of course his health (or lack thereof), which is a negative on his resume. But again, while maybe not on the level of the Hall/Eberle trades, this would be a downgrade in value, an increase in cap, and would be trading low on Klefbom. So pretty sure this is going to happen.

But then Rishaug also speculates (I think), that the Oilers might do Klef and the 10th pick, which would be a disaster. Rishaug says, "that pick", which I think is referring to the 10th overall, as he was talking about Chiarelli saying it was on the table earlier in the segment.

Klefbom speculation starts about 4:30:

https://www.tsn.ca/radio/edmonton-1260/audio/rishaug-oilers- will-go-big-game-hunting-for-blue-line-help-1.1086832


I think I would consider a 1 for 1, but adding the #10 pick, brutal. Could be a solid D prospect at #10, which we badly need in the system. I'd take him mainly so we can idiot proof the PP. So sick of the garbage we've been watching. Give the coaches a no-brainer RHD option and it should open all kinds of things for McDavid on the 1st unit.

Risto takes a lot of heat for his defensive game, but he has also been on a hopeless trash team getting all the minutes with crap coaching. Not sure we can know what he would be on a decent team, and Larsson should be able to keep him from the toughest defense minutes. Better pray Sek is 100% back next year if you do this too. And Nurse takes yet another big step.

[Updated on: Wed, 16 May 2018 14:48]


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I am curious to know what people base an opinion that Ristolainen is a brutal defensive player on? The Sabres have been a brutal team since he was drafted. He played as an 18 yr old. They have had little in the way of forwards, defense and goaltending the entire time he has been a Sabre. He plays both special teams, puts up 40+ pts the last 3 seasons on a terrible team and plays over 26 mins a night. Does his +/- suck, yes it does. But give how young he is, how much be plays and how bad the Sabres have been, I don't see how any player can look decent defensively.

In saying that, I do not think the Oilers defense is as bad as some people think. They had a ton of injuries and had a guy go through some really tragic circumstances that would impact his game.

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Rumor that OEL and Coyotes are working on an 8-year deal.

Time to PANIC!!!! Doors closing all around Chia. Make a move quick!!! icon_biggrin



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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 16 May 2018 16:53

Rumor that OEL and Coyotes are working on an 8-year deal.

Time to PANIC!!!! Doors closing all around Chia. Make a move quick!!! icon_biggrin


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OilMJMOil wrote on Wed, 16 May 2018 20:39

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 16 May 2018 16:53

Rumor that OEL and Coyotes are working on an 8-year deal.

Time to PANIC!!!! Doors closing all around Chia. Make a move quick!!! icon_biggrin


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Magnum wrote on Wed, 16 May 2018 21:55

OilMJMOil wrote on Wed, 16 May 2018 20:39

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 16 May 2018 16:53

Rumor that OEL and Coyotes are working on an 8-year deal.

Time to PANIC!!!! Doors closing all around Chia. Make a move quick!!! icon_biggrin


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Which would you prefer: Weber or Larsson?


Larsson, and this from a guy who loves Weber. Purely because of their respective contracts. If Weber was say 4 years younger then it's a no brainer, but that contract lasting forever makes him a non-starter for me.




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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Wed, 16 May 2018 22:20

Magnum wrote on Wed, 16 May 2018 21:55

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Rumor that OEL and Coyotes are working on an 8-year deal.

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Brace yourselves... Shea Weber is coming


Which would you prefer: Weber or Larsson?


Larsson, and this from a guy who loves Weber. Purely because of their respective contracts. If Weber was say 4 years younger then it's a no brainer, but that contract lasting forever makes him a non-starter for me.




I’m with you, 100%. Love Shea Weber, but he’s what, 32(??) and with a cap hit of close to 8 mil a year for 8 more seasons??? We’ve all turned sour on Milan Lucic, I don’t want to have those same feelings for Shea Weber. Though... a Weber Oilers jersey in my closet would look great.



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OilMJMOil wrote on Wed, 16 May 2018 22:51

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Wed, 16 May 2018 22:20

Magnum wrote on Wed, 16 May 2018 21:55

OilMJMOil wrote on Wed, 16 May 2018 20:39

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 16 May 2018 16:53

Rumor that OEL and Coyotes are working on an 8-year deal.

Time to PANIC!!!! Doors closing all around Chia. Make a move quick!!! icon_biggrin


Brace yourselves... Shea Weber is coming


Which would you prefer: Weber or Larsson?


Larsson, and this from a guy who loves Weber. Purely because of their respective contracts. If Weber was say 4 years younger then it's a no brainer, but that contract lasting forever makes him a non-starter for me.




I’m with you, 100%. Love Shea Weber, but he’s what, 32(??) and with a cap hit of close to 8 mil a year for 8 more seasons??? We’ve all turned sour on Milan Lucic, I don’t want to have those same feelings for Shea Weber. Though... a Weber Oilers jersey in my closet would look great.


Only way Weber is coming here is if Russell or Lucic is taken back and some salary is retained (preferably cap space, but not sure that can be done). I wouldn't mind having Weber, but I would think that Lucic has more value to the Oilers than a deteriorating Weber would. Plus that contract he has goes til he's 38. That's too much money for too long with McDavid and Drai making over 21mill, best to keep what we have and work/develop around it.



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bigred75 wrote on Thu, 17 May 2018 08:47

OilMJMOil wrote on Wed, 16 May 2018 22:51

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Wed, 16 May 2018 22:20

Magnum wrote on Wed, 16 May 2018 21:55

OilMJMOil wrote on Wed, 16 May 2018 20:39

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 16 May 2018 16:53

Rumor that OEL and Coyotes are working on an 8-year deal.

Time to PANIC!!!! Doors closing all around Chia. Make a move quick!!! icon_biggrin


Brace yourselves... Shea Weber is coming


Which would you prefer: Weber or Larsson?


Larsson, and this from a guy who loves Weber. Purely because of their respective contracts. If Weber was say 4 years younger then it's a no brainer, but that contract lasting forever makes him a non-starter for me.




I’m with you, 100%. Love Shea Weber, but he’s what, 32(??) and with a cap hit of close to 8 mil a year for 8 more seasons??? We’ve all turned sour on Milan Lucic, I don’t want to have those same feelings for Shea Weber. Though... a Weber Oilers jersey in my closet would look great.


Only way Weber is coming here is if Russell or Lucic is taken back and some salary is retained (preferably cap space, but not sure that can be done). I wouldn't mind having Weber, but I would think that Lucic has more value to the Oilers than a deteriorating Weber would. Plus that contract he has goes til he's 38. That's too much money for too long with McDavid and Drai making over 21mill, best to keep what we have and work/develop around it.



I think that contract is longer than you think...8 more years and he's 33 at the start of next season. I'm not sure 40 year old Weber is going to be able to justify the cap hit...



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Adam wrote on Thu, 17 May 2018 08:58

bigred75 wrote on Thu, 17 May 2018 08:47

OilMJMOil wrote on Wed, 16 May 2018 22:51

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Wed, 16 May 2018 22:20

Magnum wrote on Wed, 16 May 2018 21:55

OilMJMOil wrote on Wed, 16 May 2018 20:39

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 16 May 2018 16:53

Rumor that OEL and Coyotes are working on an 8-year deal.

Time to PANIC!!!! Doors closing all around Chia. Make a move quick!!! icon_biggrin


Brace yourselves... Shea Weber is coming


Which would you prefer: Weber or Larsson?


Larsson, and this from a guy who loves Weber. Purely because of their respective contracts. If Weber was say 4 years younger then it's a no brainer, but that contract lasting forever makes him a non-starter for me.




I’m with you, 100%. Love Shea Weber, but he’s what, 32(??) and with a cap hit of close to 8 mil a year for 8 more seasons??? We’ve all turned sour on Milan Lucic, I don’t want to have those same feelings for Shea Weber. Though... a Weber Oilers jersey in my closet would look great.


Only way Weber is coming here is if Russell or Lucic is taken back and some salary is retained (preferably cap space, but not sure that can be done). I wouldn't mind having Weber, but I would think that Lucic has more value to the Oilers than a deteriorating Weber would. Plus that contract he has goes til he's 38. That's too much money for too long with McDavid and Drai making over 21mill, best to keep what we have and work/develop around it.



I think that contract is longer than you think...8 more years and he's 33 at the start of next season. I'm not sure 40 year old Weber is going to be able to justify the cap hit...



Hard no to a D with his best in the rearview mirror, 32 with 8 more years and a big cap number. Shouldn't even be a discussion.



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Magnum wrote on Wed, 16 May 2018 21:55

OilMJMOil wrote on Wed, 16 May 2018 20:39

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 16 May 2018 16:53

Rumor that OEL and Coyotes are working on an 8-year deal.

Time to PANIC!!!! Doors closing all around Chia. Make a move quick!!! icon_biggrin


Brace yourselves... Shea Weber is coming


Which would you prefer: Weber or Larsson?


I always liked Weber, but I wouldn't take him for free right now. Eight more seasons with a cap hit of $7.857MM. He's also turning 33 this summer, and missed 56 games with injury this season.

To be fair, that's the first time since 2007-08 that he's missed more than 4 games in a season, but given his age and his style of play, he's likely going to get hurt more often over the next few years.

Taking on a contract like that could badly impair the cap management for the entire prime of McDavid's career. We already have one Lucic...we really can't afford another.



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I personally would never add Weber. His contract is too long. I took a look at capfriendly and salary wise, it goes from an insane 12 MILL to 6 mill for the next 4 years. But his cap hit is still a 7.857 mill for another 8 yrs.

I suppose if the Habs took back another big salary like Lucic and also retained some cap then maybe I would consider it for a few mins but even then I don't think I would do it. With the game getting faster, his foot speed was an issue and will only get worse most likely. But now he is coming off a major problem with his foot. The last thing a guy with foot speed issues needs is problems with anything involving his legs or feet.

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Adam wrote on Wed, 16 May 2018 23:00

Magnum wrote on Wed, 16 May 2018 21:55

OilMJMOil wrote on Wed, 16 May 2018 20:39

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 16 May 2018 16:53

Rumor that OEL and Coyotes are working on an 8-year deal.

Time to PANIC!!!! Doors closing all around Chia. Make a move quick!!! icon_biggrin


Brace yourselves... Shea Weber is coming


Which would you prefer: Weber or Larsson?


I always liked Weber, but I wouldn't take him for free right now. Eight more seasons with a cap hit of $7.857MM. He's also turning 33 this summer, and missed 56 games with injury this season.

To be fair, that's the first time since 2007-08 that he's missed more than 4 games in a season, but given his age and his style of play, he's likely going to get hurt more often over the next few years.

Taking on a contract like that could badly impair the cap management for the entire prime of McDavid's career. We already have one Lucic...we really can't afford another.



Would anyone here take Weber for nothing?



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Magnum wrote on Thu, 17 May 2018 09:29

Adam wrote on Wed, 16 May 2018 23:00

Magnum wrote on Wed, 16 May 2018 21:55

OilMJMOil wrote on Wed, 16 May 2018 20:39

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 16 May 2018 16:53

Rumor that OEL and Coyotes are working on an 8-year deal.

Time to PANIC!!!! Doors closing all around Chia. Make a move quick!!! icon_biggrin


Brace yourselves... Shea Weber is coming


Which would you prefer: Weber or Larsson?


I always liked Weber, but I wouldn't take him for free right now. Eight more seasons with a cap hit of $7.857MM. He's also turning 33 this summer, and missed 56 games with injury this season.

To be fair, that's the first time since 2007-08 that he's missed more than 4 games in a season, but given his age and his style of play, he's likely going to get hurt more often over the next few years.

Taking on a contract like that could badly impair the cap management for the entire prime of McDavid's career. We already have one Lucic...we really can't afford another.



Would anyone here take Weber for nothing?


If the Habs retained $3-4 mil?
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K.McC#24 wrote on Thu, 17 May 2018 09:53

Magnum wrote on Thu, 17 May 2018 09:29

Adam wrote on Wed, 16 May 2018 23:00

Magnum wrote on Wed, 16 May 2018 21:55

OilMJMOil wrote on Wed, 16 May 2018 20:39

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 16 May 2018 16:53

Rumor that OEL and Coyotes are working on an 8-year deal.

Time to PANIC!!!! Doors closing all around Chia. Make a move quick!!! icon_biggrin


Brace yourselves... Shea Weber is coming


Which would you prefer: Weber or Larsson?


I always liked Weber, but I wouldn't take him for free right now. Eight more seasons with a cap hit of $7.857MM. He's also turning 33 this summer, and missed 56 games with injury this season.

To be fair, that's the first time since 2007-08 that he's missed more than 4 games in a season, but given his age and his style of play, he's likely going to get hurt more often over the next few years.

Taking on a contract like that could badly impair the cap management for the entire prime of McDavid's career. We already have one Lucic...we really can't afford another.



Would anyone here take Weber for nothing?


If the Habs retained $3-4 mil?
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K.McC#24 wrote on Thu, 17 May 2018 09:53

Magnum wrote on Thu, 17 May 2018 09:29

Adam wrote on Wed, 16 May 2018 23:00

Magnum wrote on Wed, 16 May 2018 21:55

OilMJMOil wrote on Wed, 16 May 2018 20:39

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 16 May 2018 16:53

Rumor that OEL and Coyotes are working on an 8-year deal.

Time to PANIC!!!! Doors closing all around Chia. Make a move quick!!! icon_biggrin


Brace yourselves... Shea Weber is coming


Which would you prefer: Weber or Larsson?


I always liked Weber, but I wouldn't take him for free right now. Eight more seasons with a cap hit of $7.857MM. He's also turning 33 this summer, and missed 56 games with injury this season.

To be fair, that's the first time since 2007-08 that he's missed more than 4 games in a season, but given his age and his style of play, he's likely going to get hurt more often over the next few years.

Taking on a contract like that could badly impair the cap management for the entire prime of McDavid's career. We already have one Lucic...we really can't afford another.



Would anyone here take Weber for nothing?


If the Habs retained $3-4 mil?
icon_lol


It’s a lot more palatable at $3.875 mil per year... I’d do it.



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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 16 May 2018 16:53

Rumor that OEL and Coyotes are working on an 8-year deal.

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McKenzie says ball in OEL's court. Coyotes offered 8x8.25M.



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