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I like how Puljujarvi started a rush and Lucic was the only forward open and McDavid comes out of nowhere between them and basically says "put her here", receives the pass and almost scores.

Worth the rewind.



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 Re: GDT: Arizona @ Edmonton (Game #23) [message #682374 is a reply to message #682371 ]
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0-2 on the PP, Coyotes not getting anything going, then down 1-0 when it bounces off Russell.

par for the course.



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Such a Coyotes vs Oilers goal. Man Arizona sucks to watch.


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I guess you could say we are even after McDavid's goal on Friday. However, we don't deserve to be behind in this one so far


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Hanzal whacks it out of mid air as he sprawls across the mouth of the crease and Talbot still gets a glove there to stop it.

Remenda covers it like it was a snap shot into the crest during wam up.

He stinks.



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This really feels like a game that will end 1-0.


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Suomalainen wrote on Sun, 27 November 2016 14:14

This really feels like a game that will end 1-0.

Liking your optimism.



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 Re: GDT: Arizona @ Edmonton (Game #23) [message #682380 is a reply to message #682379 ]
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What in the ever living F?!?!?! The Coyotes??? Come on!!! On their way to a 25th straight game with a point against us! The coyotes! What the hell?


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Mike wrote on Sun, 27 November 2016 14:38

What in the ever living F?!?!?! The Coyotes??? Come on!!! On their way to a 25th straight game with a point against us! The coyotes! What the hell?

In fairness to Arizona, those games were against the Edmonton Oilers.



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If you stop and think about it, it really is amazing. I have a hard time believing that there has been that kind of streak in any sport. 24 straight games with at least a point....Unreal....

Lets hope we can pull this one out!



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No reason to think the Oilers deserve any better than what's on the scoreboard. Not much going, lacklustre effort.

Cannot get down to a team that can only compete by getting in lanes, interfering and clogging things up.

Disappointing.



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McDavid finally shoots and it goes in. Go figure. Can anyone else step up?

Off Lucic?



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K.McC#24 wrote on Sun, 27 November 2016 15:21

McDavid finally shoots and it goes in. Go figure. Can anyone else step up?

Off Lucic?

Looks like it.

Good times!



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That's super lucky, it was looking grim.


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 Re: GDT: Arizona @ Edmonton (Game #23) [message #682389 is a reply to message #682371 ]
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3rd pairing and Ebs down low. That is definitely easy mode for any team.


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Good awareness and coverage Ebs. Same old.


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How do they do it? They've posed less of a threat than Switzerland and yet some how are leading. frustrated


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Leia wrote on Sun, 27 November 2016 15:37

How do they do it? They've posed less of a threat than Switzerland and yet some how are leading. frustrated

Speaking of Switzerland, the Swiss league might be a better league for the Oilers, or at least some of their players. No point in being big if you're not going to play like it. Find a way to contribute if not on the scoresheet. Inspire someone, at least.



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K.McC#24 wrote on Sun, 27 November 2016 14:33

Good awareness and coverage Ebs. Same old.


Ya because it's totally the RWers job to cover the front of the net when the puck is in his corner. Of course no one seems concerned that Nurse is on the wrong side of the ice for no good reason, when he should have been the one in front of the net. Because it's way easier to just see that Eberle is somewhere in the ice and blame him.



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Goose wrote on Sun, 27 November 2016 16:16

K.McC#24 wrote on Sun, 27 November 2016 14:33

Good awareness and coverage Ebs. Same old.


Ya because it's totally the RWers job to cover the front of the net when the puck is in his corner. Of course no one seems concerned that Nurse is on the wrong side of the ice for no good reason, when he should have been the one in front of the net. Because it's way easier to just see that Eberle is somewhere in the ice and blame him.


Crap shift by all those guys, including guys not in the picture (and to Ebs credit, back in the day he would have for sure been one of those guys no where to be seen). There was plenty of time for Ebs to see that play developing, but he is what he is. "That's wasn't my job" is not really a defence when you're on a team and making 6M IMO.

3rd pairing got exposed in these 2 games, Nurse especially. We don't coach solid enough fundamentals on this team where our lesser guys can just play some robot hockey and do things that work 98% of the time like old Wyatt, er, Tippett, does.

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Crap shift by all those guys, including guys not in the picture (and to Ebs credit, back in the day he would have for sure been one of those guys no where to be seen). There was plenty of time for Ebs to see that play developing, but he is what he is. "That's wasn't my job" is not really a defence when you're on a team and making 6M IMO.

3rd pairing got exposed in these 2 games, Nurse especially. We don't coach solid enough fundamentals on this team where our lesser guys can just play some robot hockey and do things that work 98% of the time like old Wyatt, er, Tippett, does.


Ya, I'm not absolving Eberle of any blame. He needs to read that situation quicker and not get caught looking at the puck.

But it doesn't exactly raise the level of discourse around here to just blame everything on Eberle all the time because it's easy.

The number of people trashing Eberle last night for missing the net on the shootout, while ignoring McDavid's equally pathetic attempt was amazing.



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Goose wrote on Sun, 27 November 2016 18:29

Kr55 wrote on Sun, 27 November 2016 15:42



Crap shift by all those guys, including guys not in the picture (and to Ebs credit, back in the day he would have for sure been one of those guys no where to be seen). There was plenty of time for Ebs to see that play developing, but he is what he is. "That's wasn't my job" is not really a defence when you're on a team and making 6M IMO.

3rd pairing got exposed in these 2 games, Nurse especially. We don't coach solid enough fundamentals on this team where our lesser guys can just play some robot hockey and do things that work 98% of the time like old Wyatt, er, Tippett, does.


Ya, I'm not absolving Eberle of any blame. He needs to read that situation quicker and not get caught looking at the puck.

But it doesn't exactly raise the level of discourse around here to just blame everything on Eberle all the time because it's easy.

The number of people trashing Eberle last night for missing the net on the shootout, while ignoring McDavid's equally pathetic attempt was amazing.



I agree, partially. I think that McDavid scoring a beauty on a breakaway in the 1st and almost winning it last second is part of the reason that goes unmentined. The other reason is it isnt acceptable to speak out against him.
With Eberle, that shot was a microcosm of 80% of his season so the venting comes out.

I mentioned in another post somewhere that Oiler fans seem to need to rate everyone a 1 or a 10. There is no middle ground. The fact is McDavid is amazing but does make some mistakes. Eberle has not been good this year but he isnt useless as some would want to state, especially here.

If we need a goat I would suggest Pouliot over and over again as I do think he has and will continue to be awful this season. I had hopes for him being a functional positive for this season but he seems to have packed it in.



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Goose wrote on Sun, 27 November 2016 17:29

Kr55 wrote on Sun, 27 November 2016 15:42



Crap shift by all those guys, including guys not in the picture (and to Ebs credit, back in the day he would have for sure been one of those guys no where to be seen). There was plenty of time for Ebs to see that play developing, but he is what he is. "That's wasn't my job" is not really a defence when you're on a team and making 6M IMO.

3rd pairing got exposed in these 2 games, Nurse especially. We don't coach solid enough fundamentals on this team where our lesser guys can just play some robot hockey and do things that work 98% of the time like old Wyatt, er, Tippett, does.


Ya, I'm not absolving Eberle of any blame. He needs to read that situation quicker and not get caught looking at the puck.

But it doesn't exactly raise the level of discourse around here to just blame everything on Eberle all the time because it's easy.

The number of people trashing Eberle last night for missing the net on the shootout, while ignoring McDavid's equally pathetic attempt was amazing.



I'm finding it easiest to just focus all my hate on Remenda when things are going bad :)

And Woodcroft of course.



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 Re: GDT: Arizona @ Edmonton (Game #23) [message #682415 is a reply to message #682413 ]
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Kr55 wrote on Sun, 27 November 2016 17:27

Goose wrote on Sun, 27 November 2016 17:29

Kr55 wrote on Sun, 27 November 2016 15:42



Crap shift by all those guys, including guys not in the picture (and to Ebs credit, back in the day he would have for sure been one of those guys no where to be seen). There was plenty of time for Ebs to see that play developing, but he is what he is. "That's wasn't my job" is not really a defence when you're on a team and making 6M IMO.

3rd pairing got exposed in these 2 games, Nurse especially. We don't coach solid enough fundamentals on this team where our lesser guys can just play some robot hockey and do things that work 98% of the time like old Wyatt, er, Tippett, does.


Ya, I'm not absolving Eberle of any blame. He needs to read that situation quicker and not get caught looking at the puck.

But it doesn't exactly raise the level of discourse around here to just blame everything on Eberle all the time because it's easy.

The number of people trashing Eberle last night for missing the net on the shootout, while ignoring McDavid's equally pathetic attempt was amazing.



I'm finding it easiest to just focus all my hate on Remenda when things are going bad :)

And Woodcroft of course.


Yep Remenda on nerves, does grate. It's almost like he doesn't want to be in Edmonton



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K.McC#24 wrote on Sun, 27 November 2016 14:33

Good awareness and coverage Ebs. Same old.



Ebs is looking more and more like Sam Gagner, needs to snap out of it.



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Skookum Jim wrote on Sun, 27 November 2016 15:24

K.McC#24 wrote on Sun, 27 November 2016 14:33

Good awareness and coverage Ebs. Same old.



Ebs is looking more and more like Sam Gagner, needs to snap out of it.


Again, no way Ebs is primarily at fault on that goal. But let's keep pushing that idea.



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Goose wrote on Sun, 27 November 2016 15:28

Skookum Jim wrote on Sun, 27 November 2016 15:24

K.McC#24 wrote on Sun, 27 November 2016 14:33

Good awareness and coverage Ebs. Same old.



Ebs is looking more and more like Sam Gagner, needs to snap out of it.


Again, no way Ebs is primarily at fault on that goal. But let's keep pushing that idea.


I'm not talking about just that particular play, and I'm a fan of his, he's got tons of skill not possessed by most of the Oilers, but in general IMHO he's not bearing down along the boards, pucks up the boards along his side almost always wind up going the wrong way, losing too many battles and possession. If you don't have size, or blazing speed, you have to get tougher to play against to be effective, win battles, skill alone isn't enough, which is something he can improve on.



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I wonder sometimes if Eberle is playing with some kind of chronic minor injury. Hemsky used to get a lot of the same accusations thrown his way (soft floater, lazy on the backcheck, nice flashy moves but no real meat to his game) but eventually people realized he was basically always playing hurt and the criticism got more muted. Eberle's by no means a big tough guy by NHL standards and perhaps he's chronically banged up.

Not making excuses, just offering a possibility. I like Eberle, just as I liked Hemsky in his day - very different players, but both equally flawed yet very useful. Eberle's a first line winger on most teams in the league, seems like probably a decent enough guy, and definitely makes the Oilers deeper and better, and I'd hate to see him get booed out of town. Seems like the mob's on him and that's pretty dumb and shortsighted.

Of course, mobs are never noted for their brilliance.



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Skookum Jim wrote on Sun, 27 November 2016 17:46

Goose wrote on Sun, 27 November 2016 15:28

Skookum Jim wrote on Sun, 27 November 2016 15:24

K.McC#24 wrote on Sun, 27 November 2016 14:33

Good awareness and coverage Ebs. Same old.



Ebs is looking more and more like Sam Gagner, needs to snap out of it.


Again, no way Ebs is primarily at fault on that goal. But let's keep pushing that idea.


I'm not talking about just that particular play, and I'm a fan of his, he's got tons of skill not possessed by most of the Oilers, but in general IMHO he's not bearing down along the boards, pucks up the boards along his side almost always wind up going the wrong way, losing too many battles and possession. If you don't have size, or blazing speed, you have to get tougher to play against to be effective, win battles, skill alone isn't enough, which is something he can improve on.


The line about the idiot mob isn't a shot at you, by the way! I'm talking about the people on hfboards or Facebook comment threads or wherever who post incredibly dumb extreme things. Agree completely in your take on his relatively weak game to date - I'm just speculating that he could be a bit battered. Or maybe not.



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Goose wrote on Sun, 27 November 2016 16:28

Skookum Jim wrote on Sun, 27 November 2016 15:24

K.McC#24 wrote on Sun, 27 November 2016 14:33

Good awareness and coverage Ebs. Same old.



Ebs is looking more and more like Sam Gagner, needs to snap out of it.


Again, no way Ebs is primarily at fault on that goal. But let's keep pushing that idea.


For eff's sake look around, and pick up a man in front of the net, when you're the other man in front of the net. Eberle should just lay off that guy in the slot, because it wasn't his guy? We were told that in peewee. He's a veteran now, not a suckling rookie or sophomore.

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K.McC#24 wrote on Mon, 28 November 2016 00:41

Goose wrote on Sun, 27 November 2016 16:28

Skookum Jim wrote on Sun, 27 November 2016 15:24

K.McC#24 wrote on Sun, 27 November 2016 14:33

Good awareness and coverage Ebs. Same old.



Ebs is looking more and more like Sam Gagner, needs to snap out of it.


Again, no way Ebs is primarily at fault on that goal. But let's keep pushing that idea.


For eff's sake look around, and pick up a man in front of the net, when you're the other man in front of the net. Eberle should just lay off that guy in the slot, because it wasn't his guy? We were told that in peewee. He's a veteran now, not a suckling rookie or sophomore.




Heres a gif (lower down) of the play,
http://edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/cult-of-hockey/ cult-of-hockey-game-grades-good-time-for-jordan-eberle-to-st ay-off-the-internet

Ebs really did commit too far towards the RHS boards, especially when he knew a guy just went past him towards the net, and that he had 3 of his own guys (including both D) along those same boards, he needed to go to the guy man on man, not hope for stopping the pass with his stick.

Still, the team needs this guy, he's a top talent, he just has to get smarter, but that goes for more than just him unfortunately ...like Larson losing Hanzal in front of Talbot, and Talbot having to make two highlight reel saves to enable Larson from not being the goat of the game. Lots of hockey IQ missing the past few games.. only one immune so far is McD.



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K.McC#24 wrote on Mon, 28 November 2016 00:41

Goose wrote on Sun, 27 November 2016 16:28

Skookum Jim wrote on Sun, 27 November 2016 15:24

K.McC#24 wrote on Sun, 27 November 2016 14:33

Good awareness and coverage Ebs. Same old.



Ebs is looking more and more like Sam Gagner, needs to snap out of it.


Again, no way Ebs is primarily at fault on that goal. But let's keep pushing that idea.


For eff's sake look around, and pick up a man in front of the net, when you're the other man in front of the net. Eberle should just lay off that guy in the slot, because it wasn't his guy? We were told that in peewee. He's a veteran now, not a suckling rookie or sophomore.



Ya that's exactly what I said. icon_rolleyes

My point is that Eberle is probably 4th on my list in terms of who I blame for that goal after:

1. Nurse for chasing the puck up the boards on the opposite side of the rink and then failing to contain his man and allowing the pass through
2. Russell for dumping the puck out twice leading up to that sequence and just giving possession back to Coyotes
3. The coaching staff for seemingly encouraging both d-men to be down below the goal line, and leaving wingers to cover the front of the net. This seems to happen a lot.
4. Eberle for failing to read Nurse on that play and allowing McGinn to release into the danger area unabated.

It was a total system breakdown, but I read at least 3 comments berating Eberle for his part in that play and zero criticism of anyone else.

It bothers me because it's lazy and unproductive. And leads to things like Eberle being booed at home, which helps no one.





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Goose wrote on Mon, 28 November 2016 10:35

K.McC#24 wrote on Mon, 28 November 2016 00:41

Goose wrote on Sun, 27 November 2016 16:28

Skookum Jim wrote on Sun, 27 November 2016 15:24

K.McC#24 wrote on Sun, 27 November 2016 14:33

Good awareness and coverage Ebs. Same old.



Ebs is looking more and more like Sam Gagner, needs to snap out of it.


Again, no way Ebs is primarily at fault on that goal. But let's keep pushing that idea.


For eff's sake look around, and pick up a man in front of the net, when you're the other man in front of the net. Eberle should just lay off that guy in the slot, because it wasn't his guy? We were told that in peewee. He's a veteran now, not a suckling rookie or sophomore.



Ya that's exactly what I said. icon_rolleyes

My point is that Eberle is probably 4th on my list in terms of who I blame for that goal after:

1. Nurse for chasing the puck up the boards on the opposite side of the rink and then failing to contain his man and allowing the pass through
2. Russell for dumping the puck out twice leading up to that sequence and just giving possession back to Coyotes
3. The coaching staff for seemingly encouraging both d-men to be down below the goal line, and leaving wingers to cover the front of the net. This seems to happen a lot.
4. Eberle for failing to read Nurse on that play and allowing McGinn to release into the danger area unabated.

It was a total system breakdown, but I read at least 3 comments berating Eberle for his part in that play and zero criticism of anyone else.

It bothers me because it's lazy and unproductive. And leads to things like Eberle being booed at home, which helps no one.





Several breakdowns, Ebs was the most obvious to everyone in the building and watching the telecast. A forensic examination of the play reveals all of those breakdowns, but the best part of 5x5 play in your own end is that you can play defensively and pick up a teammate or group of teammates that didn't execute, do the easy and the obvious, and thwart the opportunity. Didn't happen.

That uncovered man alone in front of the Oilers net is a spectre we've seen for a decade, and if you had to show a single gameplay snapshot describing the Oilers' ineptitude over the same period of time, that would likely be it. Someone always makes the final devastating mistake in terms of d-zone coverage that ends up in the net, it's been done a hundred or considerably more times over the years. This time Jordan Eberle was the last line of defense ahead of Talbot, would have been easy to mark that guy behind him, but he didn't and the result is another wide open glorious opportunity that kills the Oilers again.

Again, this is a veteran winger, and he wears the criticism.



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