| Oilers at World Hockey Championships [message #571353] |
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Team Canada:
Eberle
Nugent-Hopkins
Dubnyk
Team USA:
Petry
Team Czech Republic:
Hemsky
Wonder if Paajarvi and Hartikainen would have made their respective teams. Also would have been nice so see Yakupov on team Russia. Was Klefbom too far off making Sweden? I see his draft-mate and teammate Brodin made the team.
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 bleedingoil
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Paajarvi was a top point leader in the tourney a couple years ago so most likely he would have had a spot.
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Goose
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I'm still most impressed with Nuge making the team.
Who would have guessed that a little over a year from being cut from Canada's World Junior team, he would be playing for the Senior Men's team? I wonder if it's ever happened before that a player was cut from the World Junior team in their draft year and then playing in the next World Championships after they were drafted.
Oilers Goal Differential
17/18: 234 GF / 263 GA (-29)
18/19: 232 GF / 274 GA (-42)
19/20 (82 game pace): 257 GF / 254 GA (+3) in 64 games
2021 (82 game pace):269 GF / 235 GA (+34) after 38 games
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Mike
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Didn't know if we should have a "GDT" for the WHC, so figured I'd just post in here.
Never thought I'd want to see Eberle and RNH's linemate get destroyed...Feels sorta disgusting to see Burrows out there with them.
Pretty nice opening goal by Benn. Pretty weak goal given up to tie it up.
And boy - do the players ever look tiny on that ice surface.
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v4ance
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Ebs scores! 2-1 Canada.
Ties Petry for Oilers goal scoring lead at WHC
Jordan Eberle on his goal scoring: "A lot of guys joke that I have a muffin. Well, it's an accurate muffin, and that's all that counts."
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v4ance
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On air, TSN reported Burrows wasn't returning to the game.
Speculation is that he had a concussion after smacking his head on the ice during an awkward hit and fall.
Found myself remarkably conflicted about the news. 
Jordan Eberle on his goal scoring: "A lot of guys joke that I have a muffin. Well, it's an accurate muffin, and that's all that counts."
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hmc
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Obviously it isn't, but this ice sheet looks exceptionally huge to me at the moment. Guess it's been a while since I watched international hockey.
Canucks Twitter feed tweeted this earlier: If you're watching, keep in mind - 14 is Eberle, 41 is Burrows. - seems like it'd be pretty easy to tell them apart. They're also minute-by-minute live tweeting this game, which, if I followed them, would be super annoying.
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Then I'll just regress, because I feel I've made myself perfectly redundant.
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v4ance
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Now, the biggest question of the game:
Will Ebs get shut down by the hot chick if he wins Player of Game again?
*Whew* Dodged that bullet by giving the award to Duncan Keith
Jordan Eberle on his goal scoring: "A lot of guys joke that I have a muffin. Well, it's an accurate muffin, and that's all that counts."
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Rekkin
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Ryan Murray just made the team at least for the game against Slovakia.
http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/World/2012/05/04/19716436.h tml
Lowe will get a good look at him this way and then will be able to decide what Tambo should offer Columbus for their 2nd pick...
At least tomorrow's game is on at a reasonable time so I won't sleep through it unless I have too many sociables tonight... 
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The people you are sure are wrong are just as sure that you are wrong. The only difference is they're wrong. - God @TheTweetOfGod
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Czech wins 2-0. Hemsky with the GWG from Petr Nedved!
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Hibernia
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Canada & France just started and theNuge scores the first less than 2 mins in. Nice!
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hmc
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Apparently those Russian troublemakers Getzlaf and Perry were out until 3am partying and threatening Finns.
Terry Jones: Reports today on Finland media websites of Ryan Getzlaf and Corey Perry in shouting session with drunken Finns at 3 am at Circus nightclub.
Oddly enough, TSN hasn't picked up the story.
Then I'll just regress, because I feel I've made myself perfectly redundant.
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Mike
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Skinner is an incredible skater. Wow.
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Regulator
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Nuge and Ebs split up, Nuge with Sharp and Benn, Ebs with Tavares and Skinner and what a result....
NUge with 3 pts (1G, 2A), Sharp 5 pts, Benn 3pts.
Ebs with a PP Goal, Dubnyk first ever win for Team Canada!!
Hemmer also scored in the Czech game which is currently tied vs Norway!!!!
| dkb19 wrote on Mon, 20 July 2009 13:05 (re: Horcoff) |
He's like a mastercard comercial, alot of what he does is priceless.
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Hemmer2Eberle
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It's probably cause these types of things happen all the time with hockey players, or even just athletes.
When I used to live in Calgary, if you ever went to a bar, you'd almost always hear about Phaneuf being out, and being a goof, and same with O'brien in Vancouver. My brothers friend had many of dealings with him.
This happens all the time over here, but not so much over there.
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azashi
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Knowing Finns and their drinking habits, I'm as likely to put the blame on the Finns. Especially if they're hockey fans who recognized Getzlaf and Perry.
Hell, I'd get into an argument with Perry and I'm Canadian.
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But should they be out at 3am the night before representing their country? I know I'd be disappointed if I'd heard it was Ebs or RNH.
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azashi
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Really? Representing their country?
Look, if it was the Olympics or the Stanley Cup playoffs, I could get upset. But the WHCs are more like a working vacation for 25 severely overpaid people.
Of course, it looks bad so they'll get suspended, but I'd be seriously surprised if Eberle and Nuge weren't enjoying the local vodka-enhanced tang late into the night either.
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TheOnlyRoz
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| ebsnugehallsy wrote on Mon, 07 May 2012 17:46 |
But should they be out at 3am the night before representing their country? I know I'd be disappointed if I'd heard it was Ebs or RNH.
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It was actually before an off day. You have to be kidding me that they need to stay in their hotel like hermits. Way too much over reaction!!!
So when you hear about the kids out at the ranch or oil city during the season. Should the bouncers send them home?
[Updated on: Mon, 07 May 2012 21:15]
Bandwagon jumpers are not welcome here!!
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Jay
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| TheOnlyRoz wrote on Mon, 07 May 2012 21:13 |
| ebsnugehallsy wrote on Mon, 07 May 2012 17:46 |
But should they be out at 3am the night before representing their country? I know I'd be disappointed if I'd heard it was Ebs or RNH.
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It was actually before an off day. You have to be kidding me that they need to stay in their hotel like hermits. Way too much over reaction!!!
So when you hear about the kids out at the ranch or oil city during the season. Should the bouncers send them home?
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Im always amazed when I read or hear these kinds of comments. And its pretty much a variation on the exact same thing every time a professional athlete does something dumb at a night club or bar.
What are they supposed to do? NOT go out and party and drink all night? Not enjoy a few beers before the night before a game? Stay in their hotel room sober?
Ummm yeah pretty much. Am I the only one who thinks that it really is not asking a lot of an elite professional athlete to not drink or party in the middle of a two week tournament? Or an 82 game season or playoffs for the matter? I mean no one is saying they need to be hermits. I am saying they shouldnt be out till 3 in the morning getting drunk the night before a game.
Most of us here probably have jobs that is far less physically demanding than playing hockey at a high level and probably a lot less public scrutiny, and yet most of us probably still have the discipline needed to not go out and get plastered on a work night. It isnt asking a lot.
Personally if it was me and I had the opportunity these guys do, and my career and livelyhood was that tied up in my physical well being, I wouldnt be drinking. Period. Ever. But I can certainly see where guys might want to blow of some steam in the off season or even the occasional night before an off day. I dont have a problem with it. But as an elite athlete whos performance is absolutely impacted by something like drinking and partying I would think this kind of thing would and should be frowned upon by anyone involved in the game including team mates, coaches, gms etc.
I know that isnt the case but it always surprises me a bit.
And I am a huge fan of both of these players.
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"Initiative comes to thems that wait"
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My mistake, I thought it was the night before the France game, I don't care if they do it before an off day as long as they aren't breaking team policies. Apologies.
So do you take all that back? Or are you cool with them doing that on a game night?
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TheOnlyRoz
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| Jay wrote on Mon, 07 May 2012 22:00 |
| TheOnlyRoz wrote on Mon, 07 May 2012 21:13 |
| ebsnugehallsy wrote on Mon, 07 May 2012 17:46 |
But should they be out at 3am the night before representing their country? I know I'd be disappointed if I'd heard it was Ebs or RNH.
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It was actually before an off day. You have to be kidding me that they need to stay in their hotel like hermits. Way too much over reaction!!!
So when you hear about the kids out at the ranch or oil city during the season. Should the bouncers send them home?
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Im always amazed when I read or hear these kinds of comments. And its pretty much a variation on the exact same thing every time a professional athlete does something dumb at a night club or bar.
What are they supposed to do? NOT go out and party and drink all night? Not enjoy a few beers before the night before a game? Stay in their hotel room sober?
Ummm yeah pretty much. Am I the only one who thinks that it really is not asking a lot of an elite professional athlete to not drink or party in the middle of a two week tournament? Or an 82 game season or playoffs for the matter? I mean no one is saying they need to be hermits. I am saying they shouldnt be out till 3 in the morning getting drunk the night before a game.
Most of us here probably have jobs that is far less physically demanding than playing hockey at a high level and probably a lot less public scrutiny, and yet most of us probably still have the discipline needed to not go out and get plastered on a work night. It isnt asking a lot.
Personally if it was me and I had the opportunity these guys do, and my career and livelyhood was that tied up in my physical well being, I wouldnt be drinking. Period. Ever. But I can certainly see where guys might want to blow of some steam in the off season or even the occasional night before an off day. I dont have a problem with it. But as an elite athlete whos performance is absolutely impacted by something like drinking and partying I would think this kind of thing would and should be frowned upon by anyone involved in the game including team mates, coaches, gms etc.
I know that isnt the case but it always surprises me a bit.
And I am a huge fan of both of these players.
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It wasn't a night before a game to play. They went out let off some steam after an overtime loss. They supposedly weren't intoxicated
A lot of people criticize everything that these professional athletes do. I understand its goes with the territory but they pick their spots to go out. That is a big part of the leadership in the dressing room. They know when they can go have a few and they know when they should stay in.
Too many people put these guys up on a pedestal and think they know whats best for them or the team. I don't know why everything needs to get over analyzed by the media and fans alike. The media is just a bunch of fans that always need have something to talk about. Its getting ridiculous!!
Bandwagon jumpers are not welcome here!!
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azashi
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What are they supposed to be, psychic?
Bear with me here, just for a second. Suppose, hypothetically, the Finns had a wee bit too much to drink and were big hockey fans, and decided to go hassling Getz and Perry. How were the two supposed to know that would happen?
I mean, that kind of thing could have happened on the street, at a pub, in the hotel lobby - anywhere.
[err, replied to the wrong person, so in essence i'm agreeing with you with an argumentative tone :) ]
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Jay
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| TheOnlyRoz wrote on Tue, 08 May 2012 08:56 |
It wasn't a night before a game to play. They went out let off some steam after an overtime loss. They supposedly weren't intoxicated
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If thats the case then I agree they did nothing wrong and the points I made do not apply to them in this instance.
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It has nothing to do with a pedestal. It has to do with acting like adults and not children. Like I said, I would have the same expectations for my own co-workers who have a far less physically demanding job. Show up for work ready to work to the best of your ability. A hockey player showing up for games or a practice, or anything else hungover isnt doing that.
If that is putting someone on a pedestal then you probably need to consider raising your expectations.
"Initiative comes to thems that wait"
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v4ance
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http://www.lfpress.com/sports/hockey/2012/05/07/19725721-qmi .html
"Toronto Maple Leafs general manager Brian Burke has come to the defence of Ryan Getzlaf, the new Canadian captain.
“I saw Getzy late Saturday night (actually early Sunday morning). I left for the airport between 4:30 and 4:45 a.m. from the hotel where we (Team USA) stayed, the same hotel as Team Canada, the Hotel Sokos Presidentii,” said Burke in an e-mail defending his former Anaheim Duck player.
“Getzy was not intoxicated and was not with a woman. We had a brief and pleasant conversation and then I headed to the airport.
“I don't know what happened early that night. I know what happened at 4:30 a.m. or so.”
MTV3, the official broadcaster of the world hockey championship, reported on its website that Getzlaf, winger Corey Perry and a few other Team Canada players were involved in an incident with drunken Finnish fans following their Saturday night overtime loss to the United States.
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The reports said the incident happened at 3 a.m. when the lights were flashed signaling last call. It was reported that the doorman encouraged the players outside where it is said the confrontation continued but eventually subsided. According to the reports no punches were thrown."
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/ryan-getzlaf-co rey-perry-alleged-3-m-finnish-152423027.html
This report mentions that Jamie Benn was another Canadian player at the club as well.
"The incident allegedly happened after 3 a.m., following an night in which Getzlaf was alleged to have chatted up former Miss Finland Sara Sieppi, according to Aftonbladet."
So not drinking the night before a game but actually the night after the loss to the Americans in OT with at least 40 hours before their game with France.
Getzlaf might get in trouble with his wife for chatting up a beuaty queen but that's about the extent of the trouble. Anything else is just hot air.
Though... seeing that picture, if there was anything that would get me to start a fight, she would be worth it. 
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Jordan Eberle on his goal scoring: "A lot of guys joke that I have a muffin. Well, it's an accurate muffin, and that's all that counts."
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Boniman
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Maybe Getz was just driving to smooth the way for Ebs? He needs the help with the international ladies.
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hmc
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This article kind of sums up the reason that I brought up the Getzlaf/Perry thing in the first place: http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/05/09/chris-selley- its-ok-not-to-like-russian-hockey-players/
I wasn't really passing judgment on them, was just making a comment on the breathless commentary that appeared when Radulov/Kostitsyn stayed out late (fine, vaguely different circumstances, but that misses the point), and none of the Canadian media, except for Terry Jones, even reporting the story when it's Canadian players.
From the article:
I can certainly believe that the rise of the KHL has made NHL teams leerier of Russian talent. More options for more players is a headache. But preferring to live at home is hardly a moral failing. To me, cramming that together with Russian injuries and a Russian superstar’s falling out with his coach and a Russian’s night out in Scottsdale and an underperforming goalie with a ludicrous contract smells a lot like coincidence dressed up as phenomenon. It strikes me as a carefully constructed, socially acceptable version of Mr. Cherry’s view of the world.
Then I'll just regress, because I feel I've made myself perfectly redundant.
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Mike
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Why do we have such a hard time against Switzerland at all levels? WJHC, Olympics, WHC...teams with practically no NHLers and we can never score on them.
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Goose
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Eberle with a beauty individual effort to make it 2-1 Canada.
Oilers Goal Differential
17/18: 234 GF / 263 GA (-29)
18/19: 232 GF / 274 GA (-42)
19/20 (82 game pace): 257 GF / 254 GA (+3) in 64 games
2021 (82 game pace):269 GF / 235 GA (+34) after 38 games
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cableguy
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Eberle with POG, I was REALLY hoping he'd try to shake the "watch girl's" hand again for a little redemtion.
Still jaded but we've got McDavid
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richksaun
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| Mike wrote on Wed, 09 May 2012 12:31 |
Why do we have such a hard time against Switzerland at all levels? WJHC, Olympics, WHC...teams with practically no NHLers and we can never score on them.
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It's because they aren't in a category with France/Belarus/Kazaqstan(spl?) and others anymore they have a very solid upbringing now along with a solid defense first game(can thank Ralph Krueger for that one).
"Any donkey can go to the front of the net and stand there with his stick on the ice." -- Capitals' center Brooks Laich on breaking a 9-game goal drought with a tip in vs. the Rangers(hint hint Oilers)
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Just curious if Yakupov was invited to try out for the Russian squad at the WHC? I don't recall hearing anything about it, and if not I wonder why? You would think he would get a look at least?
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v4ance
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| jds308 wrote on Wed, 09 May 2012 22:04 |
Just curious if Yakupov was invited to try out for the Russian squad at the WHC? I don't recall hearing anything about it, and if not I wonder why? You would think he would get a look at least?
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I think the Russians have more than enough top 9 scorers. They've even turned away Radulov who was the KHL MVP last year, allowing him to go for his knee surgery.
Just watched the game against Switzerland on the pvr.
The pbp commentators, Dave Randorf and Mike Johnson were complimentary of Cam Ward but I felt they were overly biased to pump up Ward's tires. They talked up Cam Ward so that it sounded like he was putting on a goaltending clinic but I had concerns about his rebound control and his ability to play the angles correctly on the big ice for the first half of the game.
My honest opinion is that Dubnyk has played better in his one appearance making the easy stops and absorbing rebounds. I hope the management doesn't just give Ward the starter's job the rest of the way because he's the incumbent.
Jordan Eberle on his goal scoring: "A lot of guys joke that I have a muffin. Well, it's an accurate muffin, and that's all that counts."
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KenMoreira
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I've noticed the teams have been easier against Dubnyk, but I also feel that the team plays better in front of him. Better puck management.
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Eberle seals the deal against the finns with an empty net goal to win 5-3. Good comeback win against a tough team.
The people you are sure are wrong are just as sure that you are wrong. The only difference is they're wrong. - God @TheTweetOfGod
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I might be a homer and yes I realize Canada is winning but can Ward look any shakier, especially at the start!!? yikes....How many early goals has he let in now?!
Gotta think Dubey would have at least a bit more poise!!
I get that Ward is a cup winner (blech) and a vet but he's shakier than a teenage boy at his first grade 9 dance!! 
"McDavid is as good as I’ve seen in the last 30 years, the best player to come into the league in the last 30 years." Gretzky
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| Oilfanforever!! wrote on Fri, 11 May 2012 14:21 |
I get that Ward is a cup winner (blech) and a vet but he's shakier than a teenage boy at his first grade 9 dance!!
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I loved his quote about stacking the pads like Billy Ranford though!
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Lot of weak calls by the Czech ref, boys overcame the adversity, Getz, Perry, and Kane were freaking DOMINANT down low, like a machine, made the Finns look like school boys, that could be a future Soichi line. Skinner had tons of chances, again, if he put away half his chances he'd have ten goals by now, took some bad penalties along the way though, getting frustrated by the non-calls on himself, selfish, B. Sutter will "guide" him toward the right path..
Nuge is still finding his way, Ebs is getting even more confident on the line with JT and Skinner, he just keeps on developing.
Loved it when Canada scored, you could hear crickets in the building it was absolutely silent.
I know the Finns are passionate about hockey, but they showed a Finnish fan, grown man, in the stands crying as he left the rink after the game, his girlfriend patting him on the back "there, there Jari, it's OK, don't cry, it's only a game ... ...", Oh, the agony of defeat...
I think the finns seriously thought they had this one when it was 3-1.
Thanks for coming out Finland, see ya next time.. :)
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Nuge with that all important eighth goal and Dubnyk with a shutout performance as Canada beats the Kazakhstan powerhouse 8-0. Eberle notched 2 assists.
I'm still in the BPA club wanting Yak to be drafted but I will say this, Murray does not look out of place in this tournament and does make some smart plays.
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