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 Review: Edmonton @ Phoenix (Game #58) [message #514491]
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 Our Core.... [message #514504 is a reply to message #514491 ]
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Horcoff -3
Staios -4
Moreau -4
Pisani -3

Combined -14.....

Yup great game to showcase these guys......

Who would actually want them? icon_dead

[Updated on: Mon, 08 February 2010 22:09]


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 Re: Our Core.... [message #514506 is a reply to message #514504 ]
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So how many Oiler fans are doing this drink right now to ease the pain? I'm sure many are.


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 Re: Our Core.... [message #514539 is a reply to message #514506 ]
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Teammate Avry wrote on Mon, 08 February 2010 21:02

So how many Oiler fans are doing this drink right now to ease the pain? I'm sure many are.


No, but it is making for great power nap fodder.



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 Re: Our Core.... [message #514514 is a reply to message #514504 ]
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Daftmonk wrote on Mon, 08 February 2010 22:01

Horcoff -3
Staios -4
Moreau -4
Pisani -3

Combined -14.....

Yup great game to showcase these guys......

Who would actually want them? icon_dead

Not bad for a 12.7MM cap hit



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Phoenix (Game #58) [message #514507 is a reply to message #514491 ]
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MJ may want to consider reprogramming the bot to throw up the Game Review after the 1st period.

More often than not the game is over by then......



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Phoenix (Game #58) [message #514508 is a reply to message #514491 ]
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OMG! If that doesn't say it all than I don't what does.

It's going to be very difficult for Tambo to move any of these guys based on what they've done so far. I'd consider us lucky if at least one of those players are gone by the deadline.



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Phoenix (Game #58) [message #514509 is a reply to message #514491 ]
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wow.... we outshot them too... I am completely speechless


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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Phoenix (Game #58) [message #514512 is a reply to message #514509 ]
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geeze, we almost won that one....close until the last 50 minutes


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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Phoenix (Game #58) [message #514513 is a reply to message #514509 ]
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jakefootball wrote on Mon, 08 February 2010 22:05

wow.... we outshot them too... I am completely speechless


and

Daftmonk wrote on Mon, 08 February 2010 22:01

Horcoff -3
Staios -4
Moreau -4
Pisani -3

Combined -14.....


That's exactly where I was going to go. A team -25 and our 4 vets account for 56% of the team +/-. It gets worse when you add Strudwick -3, Visnovsky -2, and Comrie -2 and it is basically every vet.

We are brutal.

I just went down the list and the shots are all from the young guys too.

JDD also sucks.



Horcoff and MacIntyre rule.

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Phoenix (Game #58) [message #514511 is a reply to message #514491 ]
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LOMBARDI?!?

I can't believe that Phoenix is THAT much better than us. I think it shows how low the Oil can sink, but still... that was ugly.

Horcoff, Moreau, Staios, and Strudwick were all USELESS out there, and is only further proven by their +/-.




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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Phoenix (Game #58) [message #514515 is a reply to message #514511 ]
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Its not pretty to know that some guys on the Oil Kings have higher plus/minus ratings than Shawn Horcoff

Oil King players with higher +/- ratings than Shawn Horcoff:

Michael St. Croix (-16)
Kegan Lowe (-9)
Clayton Cumiskey (-2)
Klarc Wilson (-5)

shall I go on?



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Phoenix (Game #58) [message #514517 is a reply to message #514515 ]
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Not to defend Horcoff (and I do think he's a pretty pathetic hockey player right now), but I'm not sure how you can draw a connection between the +/- of an Oiler and several Oil Kings. It's meaningless.


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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Phoenix (Game #58) [message #514518 is a reply to message #514515 ]
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So when do Moreau & Horcoff get their turn in the pressbox? The young guys who actually look like they give a crap have had their turn. I thought Quinn was going to turn things around a bit in terms of accountability?
Guess not.

You don't even need to look any more: Pinned in our own end? Hmmm...must be our "checking" line out there again. I don't even remember the last time that line sustained any kind of pressure in the opposition zone.



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Phoenix (Game #58) [message #514526 is a reply to message #514518 ]
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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Mon, 08 February 2010 22:20

So when do Moreau & Horcoff get their turn in the pressbox?



This is a GREAT question. Both Moreau and horcoff deserve at least a few games from the box. If any of the young guys played the way they have they'd be on waivers or in Springfield.



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Phoenix (Game #58) [message #514530 is a reply to message #514526 ]
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shootsaverebound wrote on Mon, 08 February 2010 22:26

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Mon, 08 February 2010 22:20

So when do Moreau & Horcoff get their turn in the pressbox?



This is a GREAT question. Both Moreau and horcoff deserve at least a few games from the box. If any of the young guys played the way they have they'd be on waivers or in Springfield.


I've asked all season why the hell Horcoff is playing meaningless hockey games when he's supposedly got this nagging shoulder injury. Rehab the injury so that he's somewhat of a hockey player next year.

It's ridiculous that he's dressing, because in my opinion he's not in the top 4 of Oilers' centers at the moment, regardless of health.



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Phoenix (Game #58) [message #514542 is a reply to message #514530 ]
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K.McC#24 wrote on Mon, 08 February 2010 21:32

shootsaverebound wrote on Mon, 08 February 2010 22:26

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Mon, 08 February 2010 22:20

So when do Moreau & Horcoff get their turn in the pressbox?



This is a GREAT question. Both Moreau and horcoff deserve at least a few games from the box. If any of the young guys played the way they have they'd be on waivers or in Springfield.


I've asked all season why the hell Horcoff is playing meaningless hockey games when he's supposedly got this nagging shoulder injury. Rehab the injury so that he's somewhat of a hockey player next year.

It's ridiculous that he's dressing, because in my opinion he's not in the top 4 of Oilers' centers at the moment, regardless of health.


Its not the shoulder. He's just a very bad hockey player. Matched in inability only by Oiler management's evaluation of personnel.



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 Oh boy, eh? [message #514516 is a reply to message #514491 ]
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We're so far into broken record territory it's not even funny anymore.

I don't know, if the foundation of coaching is teaching, preparing and motivating?

This present group get's a D-.

I know, I know. The situation with the Oilers certainly doesn't begin and end with this element, but there's something really, really off here.

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AY wrote on Mon, 08 February 2010 22:18

We're so far into broken record territory it's not even funny anymore.

I don't know, if the foundation of coaching is teaching, preparing and motivating?

This present group get's a D-.

I know, I know. The situation with the Oilers certainly doesn't begin and end with this element, but there's something's really, really off here.


I'm totally shocked that the team didn't get a bounce from having a new regime behind the bench, injuries to Hemmer and Khabibulin notwithstanding.

I think what we're seeing in terms of poor performance is the guys who really bought into the MacT "system". These guys were totally ingrained, they were MacT drones....Horcoff, Moreau, Staios, Pisani....guys who can't piss a drop under the current regime. Whether it's a conscious (or subconscious) refusal to play for Quinn et al, who knows?

I'm curious as to why the veterans as a group are not playing with an ounce of pride.



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This season has turned into one giant kick in a sensetive area

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 Well... [message #514532 is a reply to message #514527 ]
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to MacT's credit and he alluded to this himself, he took what he had in front of 'im and made the most of it.

System details and X's and O's aside, MacT was good at dummin' it down for these dummies.

It's like this present coaching staff speak some foreign language the players don't comprehend.

I don't really understand it either. The situation and why. I get the injuries part and all that, but the work ethic, the team cohesion, the lack of roles and responsibilities, the inept execution, lack of focus, the errors... total blunders.

I know #37's terrible and everything, but is he that useless? Is JFJ that much of a joke? Take your pick, y'know?



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AY wrote on Mon, 08 February 2010 22:35

to MacT's credit and he alluded to this himself, he took what he had in front of 'im and made the most of it.

System details and X's and O's aside, MacT was good at dummin' it down for these dummies.

It's like this present coaching staff speak some foreign language the players don't comprehend.

I don't really understand it either. The situation and why. I get the injuries part and all that, but the work ethic, the team cohesion, the lack of roles and responsibilities, the inept execution, lack of focus, the errors... total blunders.

I know #37's terrible and everything, but is he that useless? Is JFJ that much of a joke? Take your pick, y'know?


I don't think it can be discounted that maybe some of these guys are seeing guys that SHOULD care (Moreau & others)....NOT caring. The leadership obviously isn't supporting the coaching staff and holding themselves or anyone else accountable, everyone is sloppy, and this is the result.



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Hate to break it to you AY, but look no further than your beloved 'core' for a reason why the Oilers are in last place. They're letting you down.

Again, the Oilers have the worst collection of veteran talent in the National Hockey League. Have for some time now. Truer words have never been spoken.

It's not the coaching staff.

It's the personnel.




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BTR17 wrote on Mon, 08 February 2010 22:30

Hate to break it to you AY, but look no further than your beloved 'core' for a reason why the Oilers are in last place. They're letting you down.

Again, the Oilers have the worst collection of veteran talent in the National Hockey League. Have for some time now. Truer words have never been spoken.

It's not the coaching staff.

It's the personnel.




I'm inclined to agree.

It was thought that MacT wasn't the guy to improve the team going forward. That impediment was removed, and the expected result hasn't happened.

This season was going to be a voyage of discovery for coaches/management as it was....finding out who is a player and who isn't. The problem is, the organization appears to have more guys who can't/won't play than they probably thought they would (more than I thought for sure).



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WOW, Cogliano had the most hits for the oilers tonight. There are so many things wrong with this organization and it starts from the top and includes everyone below.


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I'm not sure Hall, Eberle or Magnus can withstand the harm that even a year under our "leadership" crew would inflict on them.

Keep Moreau and Horcoff the hell away from these kids. This is the only logical reason I can think of as to why Quinn would be putting Brule in the pressbox... to save him from breathing in excess ineptitude.




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From the yahoo recap: "NOTES: Two fans in Oilers jerseys sat in the stands with paper bags over their heads. …"

How long before we start wearing plastic bags on our heads, sealed around the neck???

Fugly.




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Not happy with Quinn keeping JDD in. What a joke of goaltender he is. Of course he had no help but he saw quite a few of those shots he let in. Other teams just lick their chops when they play us. Staios is still a pylon imagine that. Glad I PVR'd it or I never would have finished watching that disgrace. Bryz was fun to watch.


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Happiness could come from one simple sentence.

"Sure, I don't care - just put them all in the minors - I am good for it." said Katz.

And poof! Moreau, Horcoff and Pisani gone forever.

Note* if you do this Mr. Katz I will buy whatever I possibly can from your pharmacies from now until I am an old old man, helping your recover your $12.7M.



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 Quinn sends a zinger... [message #514541 is a reply to message #514538 ]
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the core's way post-game. This includes the glorified plugger, Pisani.

To paraphrase, "... someone said they're worried about bein' traded. Hell, who'd want 'em!"

Okay, so I ended Quinn's sentence for him. But y'all get it. Went straight at Nilsson too. Mighta taken another shot a Sullivan, with the looking upwards response to a missed opportunity, but I may be mistaken on that one and damn if I'm watching the replay to get confirmation!



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Well, at least I called the score right woo hoo!!


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AY wrote on Mon, 08 February 2010 23:42

the core's way post-game. This includes the glorified plugger, Pisani.
To paraphrase, "... someone said they're worried about bein' traded. Hell, who'd want 'em!"


After the wasted time on watching the Phoenix Coyotes skills competition couldn't stomach the presser.

That quote from Quinn is reproduced in the Edmonton Journal where Quinn is quoted as saying "The numbers speak for themselves, Someone said they're thinking of getting traded (Moreau and Pisani). Who the heck would…" along with "our checking line wasn't in the game" and "our checking line threw it away once, blind pass right onto a stick, and bang, it's in our net."

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/edmonton-oilers /Oilers+Dogs+breakfast/2537736/story.html

I want to say that Quinn is being harsh, but our checking line is deserving of it, and more importantly I think Quinn is right in rapping our Captain's knuckles for writing his own obituary.

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/edmonton-oilers /Moreau+perched+limbo/2530357/story.html

Simply a bad move by the purported leader of this team to raise the white flag and entertain talk about his trade-ability and potential value to a playoff contending team.

If Moreau wanted to show self-confidence he should have talked about how he can be the veteran presence required to help this team both on the ice and off the ice in learning how to play and compete at an NHL level… take a cue from Strudwick who recently spoke about working with the young players to start fresh each day and that being a pro requires focus on doing the little things right day to day.


Our checking line really has gone from showcasing talent to addition by their subtraction, and hopefully Tambo can get these guys a change of scenery that both sides sorely need.



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goalpost wrote on Tue, 09 February 2010 10:55

AY wrote on Mon, 08 February 2010 23:42

the core's way post-game. This includes the glorified plugger, Pisani.
To paraphrase, "... someone said they're worried about bein' traded. Hell, who'd want 'em!"


After the wasted time on watching the Phoenix Coyotes skills competition couldn't stomach the presser.

That quote from Quinn is reproduced in the Edmonton Journal where Quinn is quoted as saying "The numbers speak for themselves, Someone said they're thinking of getting traded (Moreau and Pisani). Who the heck would…" along with "our checking line wasn't in the game" and "our checking line threw it away once, blind pass right onto a stick, and bang, it's in our net."

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/edmonton-oilers /Oilers+Dogs+breakfast/2537736/story.html

I want to say that Quinn is being harsh, but our checking line is deserving of it, and more importantly I think Quinn is right in rapping our Captain's knuckles for writing his own obituary.

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/edmonton-oilers /Moreau+perched+limbo/2530357/story.html

Simply a bad move by the purported leader of this team to raise the white flag and entertain talk about his trade-ability and potential value to a playoff contending team.

If Moreau wanted to show self-confidence he should have talked about how he can be the veteran presence required to help this team both on the ice and off the ice in learning how to play and compete at an NHL level… take a cue from Strudwick who recently spoke about working with the young players to start fresh each day and that being a pro requires focus on doing the little things right day to day.


Our checking line really has gone from showcasing talent to addition by their subtraction, and hopefully Tambo can get these guys a change of scenery that both sides sorely need.


True...whether you might be on the way out or not, I don't think publicly championing a trade and talking about your market value is your best move. Makes it sound like you're hoping to get out (although that's possibly something on a lot of these guys' minds these days).

When asked about that, I think you should probably trot out one of the old tried and true lines like "I'm just focussed on winning with this team right now, I try not to think about all that other stuff" or "I have no control over who stays and goes on the team. That's the GM's job. I just have to come out here and play my game."



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He doesn't even know how to be a cookie cutter Captain. Rip that consonant off his sweater, I say.

And to be quite honest, at this point I question Horcoff's presence on the bench (as opposed to the pressbox) as some backwards and corrupt union conspiracy. He's a well respected guy in the NHLPA or some nonsense, isn't he?

Please. Please don't tell me that the coaches can't see that he deserves it. Needs it even. Please don't say their hands are tied by a strong presence of Old Boys' Club.

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 Re: Quinn sends a zinger... [message #514595 is a reply to message #514593 ]
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nickxero wrote on Tue, 09 February 2010 11:53

He doesn't even know how to be a cookie cutter Captain. Rip that consonant off his sweater, I say.
And to be quite honest, at this point I question Horcoff's presence on the bench (as opposed to the pressbox) as some backwards and corrupt union conspiracy. He's a well respected guy in the NHLPA or some nonsense, isn't he?
Please. Please don't tell me that the coaches can't see that he deserves it. Needs it even. Please don't say their hands are tied by a strong presence of Old Boys' Club.
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I would like to say that they are "showcasing" our checking line, and right or wrong I'm clinging to the hope that another GM will see that our checking line, and other vets, will prosper with a change of scenery and want to trade [again addition by subtraction].

Unfortunately unless they move some vets and get some bodies in return the Oilers are otherwise stuck with 5.5 and the checking vets for the rest of the year as there is limited talent left in the AHL [already fair share in our line up] and cap space after the trade deadline is utterly useless.

While burying 5.5 and the checking vets in the minors to change the team mentality is appealing, there is limited benefit to doing it this year particularly with 5.5 as the replacements aren't available [Eberle, Omark, MPS and Hall] so any change is going to happen after the draft in any event and besides the positive in having 5.5 and checking vets in the line up are their solid contributions to securing a last place for a first first round pick.

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 Re: Quinn sends a zinger... [message #514597 is a reply to message #514595 ]
Tue, 09 February 2010 12:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That's true. Keeping him in DOES worsen the team, which is all we've got going for us right now.

Wow, not a bit of exaggeration there.

Maybe I'm looking for him to at least own up to it? See him be the last one leave the ice after warmup? Say that he isn't earning his cheque?

I mean Jokinen did it.



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 Hehehehehe... [message #514540 is a reply to message #514535 ]
Mon, 08 February 2010 23:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Quinn touched on that post-game, but to paraphrase, "... wanted to spare 'im the indignity."

Something to that effect, anyway. Spoke like a real Grandpa. ; )

Man alive, we've addressed the distrssing paucity of real talent and depth on the Oilers... talkin' about personnel and everything. But I can't help but think there's a tremendous disconnct here between the coaches and the players.



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 Re: Hehehehehe... [message #514543 is a reply to message #514540 ]
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AY wrote on Mon, 08 February 2010 23:27

Quinn touched on that post-game, but to paraphrase, "... wanted to spare 'im the indignity."

Something to that effect, anyway. Spoke like a real Grandpa. ; )

Man alive, we've addressed the distrssing paucity of real talent and depth on the Oilers... talkin' about personnel and everything. But I can't help but think there's a tremendous disconnct here between the coaches and the players.

If there is that is bad long term. Talentless and uncoachable is brutal.



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 Re: Hehehehehe... [message #514545 is a reply to message #514543 ]
Tue, 09 February 2010 00:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My personal do not trade list dwindles every game it seems.

I think Brule is on there?



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 Brule to me... [message #514547 is a reply to message #514545 ]
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his game starts and then it stalls. Starts up again and then stalls.

An' that candyass play on the LA GW'er weeks back at Rexall still bugs the (expletive deleted) outta me.



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