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 Re: Kypreos - Wouldn't have matched the Vanek deal [message #368338 is a reply to message #368301 ]
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I think he only wouldn't have matched it because he couldn't divide 50 by 7 and so didn't know what he was paying.

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 Re: VANEK!!! [message #368355 is a reply to message #367882 ]
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I can't believe Buffalo matched

4 1st round picks

for an overpay

I'll be honest to say KLowe gave an honest offer.

Let's just roll with what we got

Oilers style grit and speed

We can do things with our line up, dont kid yourself

We can overpay next year

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 Buffalo Writer's take on the situation [message #368750 is a reply to message #367882 ]
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Sorry if this has been posted before...interesting take on the Vanek situation from the columnist for the Sabres:

http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/sabresnhl/story/114586.htm l

A few paragraphs:


Edmonton General Manager Kevin Lowe called the Sabres’ reactions “rather juvenile,” and he had a point. The Oilers wanted Vanek and made a strong bid, ignoring Regier’s pleas for them to back off the free agent. They played within the rules. If the Sabres had a problem with it, well, it was easier than pointing the finger of blame where it belonged — at themselves.

Once again, the Sabres miscalculated the soaring NHL market and got burned. It’s hard to believe they couldn’t have gone to Vanek last season and extended him at a lower cost — as they tried with Chris Drury before fumbling the deal. Instead, they put their hope in a mythical “gentlemen’s agreement” among NHL teams not to pursue each other’s restricted players.

“People ask why we didn’t negotiate with Thomas,” Quinn said. “We didn’t because we didn’t have a party that wanted to, because this was the route they were following. You can tell when discussions get to a certain point that someone has a different option.”

Quinn made it sound as if there had been a long history of talks with Vanek’s agent, Steve Bartlett. That wasn’t quite the case. Asked when he had begun talks with Bartlett, Regier said, “I’ve had a couple of conversations with him.”

Pressed for more details, Regier said he didn’t have an actual date. Finally, he said, “probably a general one a couple of weeks ago.”

Oh, so the Sabres were so concerned about locking up Vanek, they waited until after the Stanley Cup finals to approach his agent? And Edmonton is the villain here? Who do these guys think they’re kidding?

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 Re: Buffalo Writer's take on the situation [message #368752 is a reply to message #368750 ]
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Superintendent wrote on Mon, 09 July 2007 12:28

Sorry if this has been posted before...interesting take on the Vanek situation from the columnist for the Sabres:

http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/sabresnhl/story/114586.htm l

A few paragraphs:


Edmonton General Manager Kevin Lowe called the Sabres’ reactions “rather juvenile,” and he had a point. The Oilers wanted Vanek and made a strong bid, ignoring Regier’s pleas for them to back off the free agent. They played within the rules. If the Sabres had a problem with it, well, it was easier than pointing the finger of blame where it belonged — at themselves.

Once again, the Sabres miscalculated the soaring NHL market and got burned. It’s hard to believe they couldn’t have gone to Vanek last season and extended him at a lower cost — as they tried with Chris Drury before fumbling the deal. Instead, they put their hope in a mythical “gentlemen’s agreement” among NHL teams not to pursue each other’s restricted players.

“People ask why we didn’t negotiate with Thomas,” Quinn said. “We didn’t because we didn’t have a party that wanted to, because this was the route they were following. You can tell when discussions get to a certain point that someone has a different option.”

Quinn made it sound as if there had been a long history of talks with Vanek’s agent, Steve Bartlett. That wasn’t quite the case. Asked when he had begun talks with Bartlett, Regier said, “I’ve had a couple of conversations with him.”

Pressed for more details, Regier said he didn’t have an actual date. Finally, he said, “probably a general one a couple of weeks ago.”

Oh, so the Sabres were so concerned about locking up Vanek, they waited until after the Stanley Cup finals to approach his agent? And Edmonton is the villain here? Who do these guys think they’re kidding?


Great article, thanx for sharing. It's about time someone accuratly viewed the situation with a non-biased approach. Regeir is not exactly giving Vanek a lot of confidence by saying he is not ready for that type of contract and not ready to have that much focus on him. Way to put fear into the mine of your last hope!!

This will end the trend of GM's taking advantage of the RFA's becaue they are restricted. This will make the off seasons for years to come even more exciting.

Just wait until July and everyone will be happy again if not happier!

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 Re: Buffalo Writer's take on the situation [message #369768 is a reply to message #368752 ]
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Well if any Oiler fan is still wanting Vanek, there could be a very small chance this morning. Buffalo still has not sent in the paperwork for Vanek's contract. The likely explanation is that Darcy Regier is waiting till the last possible second to send in the contract, to not give Lowe a chance to add too much salary. And for those who believe in miracles, perhaps Regier is having second thoughts on the Vanek contract. Again, super unlikely that Regier does not re-sign Vanek, but there are those who like to dream.

I think they need to send in the paperwork before noon, so 10 AM our time, but I could be wrong on this.

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 Re: Buffalo Writer's take on the situation [message #369769 is a reply to message #369768 ]
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So I've got about 3 and a half hours of wishful thinking? Sweet. Our PP consists of Hemsky, Stoll, Pitkanen, Souray and Vanek. Nice.

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 Re: Buffalo Writer's take on the situation [message #369770 is a reply to message #369769 ]
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Mikey wrote on Fri, 13 July 2007 05:25

So I've got about 3 and a half hours of wishful thinking? Sweet. Our PP consists of Hemsky, Stoll, Pitkanen, Souray and Vanek. Nice.

That would be a pretty nice PP1 line. Pretty sure even Simpson could not mess that up.

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 Re: Buffalo Writer's take on the situation [message #369771 is a reply to message #369770 ]
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You know, looking at it, could there have been a more perfect fit for Hemsky?

He's one of the few players in the NHL who has more goals than assists over his career, and his totals are impressive: 2 years, 25 and then 43 goals (with 23 and 41 assists). So the guy is definitely a shooter. And then you look at his +/- last year: +47 - tops in the NHL. His 43 goals were good for 5th in the NHL. All that and he is only 23 years old!!!

A line of Vanek/Horcoff/Hemsky would have been among the very best in the NHL for years to come...Oh well, I've still got 3 hours. icon_biggrin

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 Re: Buffalo Writer's take on the situation [message #369772 is a reply to message #369771 ]
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Mikey wrote on Fri, 13 July 2007 06:00

You know, looking at it, could there have been a more perfect fit for Hemsky?

He's one of the few players in the NHL who has more goals than assists over his career, and his totals are impressive: 2 years, 25 and then 43 goals (with 23 and 41 assists). So the guy is definitely a shooter. And then you look at his +/- last year: +47 - tops in the NHL. His 43 goals were good for 5th in the NHL. All that and he is only 23 years old!!!

A line of Vanek/Horcoff/Hemsky would have been among the very best in the NHL for years to come...Oh well, I've still got 3 hours. icon_biggrin


Let's go broken-fax-machine, let's go!

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 Re: Buffalo Writer's take on the situation [message #369773 is a reply to message #369772 ]
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I hate when I miss stuff on my TO DO list...

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 Re: Buffalo Writer's take on the situation [message #369774 is a reply to message #369773 ]
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Copperoiler wrote on Fri, 13 July 2007 06:12

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I hate when I miss stuff on my TO DO list...


So you got a Heisman trophy winning, double-homicide committting RB AND a 4th line NHL plugger, but you forgot the Vanek? HOW COULD YOU???

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 Re: Buffalo Writer's take on the situation [message #369775 is a reply to message #369772 ]
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Bryn on the TEAM said that it had not been registered yet and they have until about noon local (MST) time. Wouldn't that be something!! bdaysmile

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 Re: Buffalo Writer's take on the situation [message #369778 is a reply to message #369775 ]
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Mullet wrote on Fri, 13 July 2007 07:58

Bryn on the TEAM said that it had not been registered yet and they have until about noon local (MST) time. Wouldn't that be something!! bdaysmile


I believe it's till midnight NY time cuz the wording in the CBA is "The Prior Club, within seven (7) days after the date it receives the Offer Sheet, may exercise..."

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 Re: Buffalo Writer's take on the situation [message #369779 is a reply to message #369778 ]
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The offer sheet wasn't signed at midnight though - it was around noon. In about an hour it will be 7 days.

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 Re: Buffalo Writer's take on the situation [message #369781 is a reply to message #369779 ]
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This is all fun and what not, but Regier's just sticking it to Lowe by dragging this out to it's max time allotment in order to tie up his resources.....

Fun to hope, but that's it in a nutshell kids....

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PPS- I got some interesting news about the Easter Bunny too (E5)

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 Re: Buffalo Writer's take on the situation [message #369783 is a reply to message #369781 ]
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Shut up! I said I had 3.5 hours of wishful thinking, and you're trying to cut it down to 3 hours? What kind of a sick f*k are you? icon_biggrin

No, of course Regier is not going to overlook this, and certainly he wants to take as long as possible...

Back to SweatyO's thing - let's go broken fax, let's go. So what if he did wait till the last minute and there was a transmission problem? :) Would a phone call do? Remember before the Cup run we tried to get McCammond the the deal was nixed because it got there a minute too late?

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 Re: Buffalo Writer's take on the situation [message #369785 is a reply to message #369783 ]
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Mikey wrote on Fri, 13 July 2007 08:44

Back to SweatyO's thing - let's go broken fax, let's go. So what if he did wait till the last minute and there was a transmission problem? :) Would a phone call do? Remember before the Cup run we tried to get McCammond the the deal was nixed because it got there a minute too late?


Why does this comment bring this to mind...?



Not the actual clip for language reasons, but still pretty funny....

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 Re: Buffalo Writer's take on the situation [message #369796 is a reply to message #369785 ]
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You guys got it all wrong....it's not the fax that is broken....Darcy is too busy playin W.O.W........and at 7 mill with a first year 10 mill payroll hit...you can have him.

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5amPractice wrote on Fri, 13 July 2007 09:37

You guys got it all wrong....it's not the fax that is broken....Darcy is too busy playin W.O.W........and at 7 mill with a first year 10 mill payroll hit...you can have him.





We'll gladly take him, thanks.

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 Re: Buffalo Writer's take on the situation [message #369800 is a reply to message #369799 ]
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SweatyO wrote on Fri, 13 July 2007 09:55

5amPractice wrote on Fri, 13 July 2007 09:37

You guys got it all wrong....it's not the fax that is broken....Darcy is too busy playin W.O.W........and at 7 mill with a first year 10 mill payroll hit...you can have him.





We'll gladly take him, thanks.




Looking at the math now that Souray is here and Joni is yet to be signed. That would push this years cap hit right into the '7 - 10 %' range as promised by mgmt. Maybe Darcy has slept in today!

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 Re: Buffalo Writer's take on the situation [message #369802 is a reply to message #369800 ]
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While I'm 95% sure BUF does this (it would be a PR NIGHTMARE in that town if they let Vanek go). However, I have visions of a Regier press conference whereby he says he couldn't forgoe the 4 1st rounders along with the additional cap space to retain free agents (oops...he didn't retain any of his free agents).

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If Regier changes his mind and we end up with Vanek i think i may pee my pants a little bit. We should have one of the best power-plays in the league. lets get the Sabers fax number and send a 100 page biography about the Oilers. In colour too just to take a little longer. If the fax isn't broken it will damned sure be jammed.

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scandle wrote on Fri, 13 July 2007 13:22

If Regier changes his mind and we end up with Vanek i think i may pee my pants a little bit. We should have one of the best power-plays in the league. lets get the Sabers fax number and send a 100 page biography about the Oilers. In colour too just to take a little longer. If the fax isn't broken it will damned sure be jammed.


Just fax them a plain plack piece of paper on a loop.

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SweatyO wrote on Fri, 13 July 2007 12:55

5amPractice wrote on Fri, 13 July 2007 09:37

You guys got it all wrong....it's not the fax that is broken....Darcy is too busy playin W.O.W........and at 7 mill with a first year 10 mill payroll hit...you can have him.





We'll gladly take him, thanks.




Ditto. The odds of landing a player of Vanek's ilk in the next 4 drafts would be what? 1 in 10? Plus we'd still need to develop him.

As for the $$$ - If 28 year old, 5'11", 13G/60 pts, +7 man Scott Gomez is worth $7M this year, 23 year old, 6'2", 43G/84Pts, +47 man Vanek is worth at least that this year, let alone in 4 year's time.

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 Deadline on Vanek SPC? Tick, tick, tick [message #369818 is a reply to message #367882 ]
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Any one know the actual time the SPC has to be filed?

I thought noon. All I know is I'm gettin anxious.

Regier's gonna tie up our picks every second he can, but scheisster it's getting tight.

Vanek and Souray in the same week? We might actually win a couple next year.

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 Re: Deadline on Vanek SPC? Tick, tick, tick [message #369819 is a reply to message #369818 ]
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spOILer wrote on Fri, 13 July 2007 11:02

Any one know the actual time the SPC has to be filed?

I thought noon. All I know is I'm gettin anxious.

Regier's gonna tie up our picks every second he can, but scheisster it's getting tight.

Vanek and Souray in the same week? We might actually win a couple next year.




Look up in the thread... Mullet posted the noon deadline as reported by Bryn of the TEAM.

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Mullet wrote on Fri, 13 July 2007 07:58

Bryn on the TEAM said that it had not been registered yet and they have until about noon local (MST) time. Wouldn't that be something!! bdaysmile


Sorry, this didn't exactly sound firm. And 2 pm EST seems a little weird too, no?

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 Am I missing Something? [message #369830 is a reply to message #369822 ]
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I thought the contract was signed last week.

http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?articleid=328627&page=NewsPag e&service=page

As well, he is listed under the Sabres on the NHLPA site as receiving $10,000,000.00 in compensation for the 07/08 season.

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g_railed wrote on Fri, 13 July 2007 11:39

I thought the contract was signed last week.

http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?articleid=328627&page=NewsPag e&service=page

As well, he is listed under the Sabres on the NHLPA site as receiving $10,000,000.00 in compensation for the 07/08 season.


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I didn't think the NHLPA site would list Vanek as signed if it wasn't official. I never checked to see if Nylander listed on the NHLPA site as an Oiler, but I wouldn't think they would operate on rumors.

I will admit that I am joining a conversation that I missed most of. There were already so many posts that I wasn't prepared to read through them all, and I was surprised that it was still going.

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I'm surprised this wasn't split out to its own thread too.

It's exactly noon, as opposed to about noon.

Where's our damn draft picks?

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What would be funny about this is that if it happened, Edmonton would be at the cap based on Pitkanen's QO. Anything more than QO for him, Oilers have to dump players or go with a less than 23 man roster.

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bone wrote on Fri, 13 July 2007 12:47

What would be funny about this is that if it happened, Edmonton would be at the cap based on Pitkanen's QO. Anything more than QO for him, Oilers have to dump players or go with a less than 23 man roster.

Are you sure.....
http://www.nhlnumbers.com/edm.html
Looks like Souray's been added and we could easily add Vaneks hit of 7.143 = upto 43 mil and still give Joni a 4 million cap hit and have lots of wiggle room - no?

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halesway wrote on Fri, 13 July 2007 12:58

Are you sure.....
http://www.nhlnumbers.com/edm.html
Looks like Souray's been added and we could easily add Vaneks hit of 7.143 = upto 43 mil and still give Joni a 4 million cap hit and have lots of wiggle room - no?


Ya, but look at the page and see what is being added up.

It's fairly certain we'll dress more than 8 forwards and 6 defensemen...

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MJ wrote on Fri, 13 July 2007 13:01

halesway wrote on Fri, 13 July 2007 12:58

Are you sure.....
http://www.nhlnumbers.com/edm.html
Looks like Souray's been added and we could easily add Vaneks hit of 7.143 = upto 43 mil and still give Joni a 4 million cap hit and have lots of wiggle room - no?


Ya, but look at the page and see what is being added up.

It's fairly certain we'll dress more than 8 forwards and 6 defensemen...

Well my quick calc included Pitkanen and Vanek. That makes 9 forwards and 7 d-men. So pick any three of Thor, Stortini (much to Adam's disgust), Schremp, Nilsson, Pouliot, Cogs or any other young guy and we're still under the cap with at about a million in wiggle. But we're both dreaming if we think Vanek will end up here 'cus of a late decision by Darcy.

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Player Name	Position	 Salary 	" 2007-2008 Cap Room "
Sheldon Souray	Defence	 $6,500,000.00 	 $5,400,000.00 
Steve Staios	Defence	 $2,900,000.00 	 $2,700,000.00 
Joni Pitkanen	Defence	 $2,000,000.00 	 $2,000,000.00 
Dick Tarnstrom	Defence	 $2,000,000.00 	 $2,000,000.00 
Matt Greene	Defence	 $1,050,000.00 	 $1,150,000.00 
Denis Grebeshkov	Defence	 $950,000.00 	 $950,000.00 
Ladislav Smid	Defence	 $720,759.00 	 $915,100.00 
Shawn Horcoff	Center	 $3,600,000.00 	 $3,600,000.00 
Jarret Stoll	Center	 $2,200,000.00 	 $2,200,000.00 
Marty Reasoner	Center	 $950,000.00 	 $950,000.00 
Marc Pouliot	Center	 $942,400.00 	 $942,400.00 
Geoff Sanderson	Left Wing	 $1,500,000.00 	 $1,500,000.00 
Ethan Moreau	Left Wing	 $2,750,000.00 	 $2,000,000.00 
Raffi Torres	Left Wing	 $1,600,000.00 	 $2,250,000.00 
Robert Nilsson	Left Wing	 $942,400.00 	 $1,013,233.33 
Ales Hemsky	RW	 $3,600,000.00 	 $4,100,000.00 
Fernando Pisani	RW	 $2,500,000.00 	 $2,500,000.00 
Zach Stortini	RW	 $532,350.00 	 $561,049.65 
Patrick Thoresen	RW	 $542,500.00 	 $536,470.00 
Rob Schremp	Forward	 $815,000.00 	 $780,555.56 
JF Jacques	Forward	 $650,000.00 	 $668,333.33 
Dwayne Roloson	Goalie	 $3,500,000.00 	 $3,666,666.67 
Mathieu Garon	Goalie	 $1,200,000.00 	 $1,200,000.00 
	 	 	 $43,945,409.00	 $43,583,808

If you add Vanek's 7.1 and substract one of Nilsson, Stortini, Jacques and Schremp you're basically at 50 million.

[Updated on: Fri, 13 July 2007 13:22]

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bone wrote on Fri, 13 July 2007 13:21

Current Depth Chart

Player Name	Position	 Salary 	" 2007-2008 Cap Room "
Sheldon Souray	Defence	 $6,500,000.00 	 $5,400,000.00 
Steve Staios	Defence	 $2,900,000.00 	 $2,700,000.00 
Joni Pitkanen	Defence	 $2,000,000.00 	 $2,000,000.00 
Dick Tarnstrom	Defence	 $2,000,000.00 	 $2,000,000.00 
Matt Greene	Defence	 $1,050,000.00 	 $1,150,000.00 
Denis Grebeshkov	Defence	 $950,000.00 	 $950,000.00 
Ladislav Smid	Defence	 $720,759.00 	 $915,100.00 
Shawn Horcoff	Center	 $3,600,000.00 	 $3,600,000.00 
Jarret Stoll	Center	 $2,200,000.00 	 $2,200,000.00 
Marty Reasoner	Center	 $950,000.00 	 $950,000.00 
Marc Pouliot	Center	 $942,400.00 	 $942,400.00 
Geoff Sanderson	Left Wing	 $1,500,000.00 	 $1,500,000.00 
Ethan Moreau	Left Wing	 $2,750,000.00 	 $2,000,000.00 
Raffi Torres	Left Wing	 $1,600,000.00 	 $2,250,000.00 
Robert Nilsson	Left Wing	 $942,400.00 	 $1,013,233.33 
Ales Hemsky	RW	 $3,600,000.00 	 $4,100,000.00 
Fernando Pisani	RW	 $2,500,000.00 	 $2,500,000.00 
Zach Stortini	RW	 $532,350.00 	 $561,049.65 
Patrick Thoresen	RW	 $542,500.00 	 $536,470.00 
Rob Schremp	Forward	 $815,000.00 	 $780,555.56 
JF Jacques	Forward	 $650,000.00 	 $668,333.33 
Dwayne Roloson	Goalie	 $3,500,000.00 	 $3,666,666.67 
Mathieu Garon	Goalie	 $1,200,000.00 	 $1,200,000.00 
	 	 	 $43,945,409.00	 $43,583,808

If you add Vanek's 7.1 and substract one of Nilsson, Stortini, Jacques and Schremp you're basically at 50 million.

True that - I missed Mr Garon and his unannounced cap hit in my quick math!
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spOILer wrote on Fri, 13 July 2007 12:01


I'm surprised this wasn't split out to its own thread too.

It's exactly noon, as opposed to about noon.

Where's our damn draft picks?


It's almost three now. Any way to confirm this?

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marchantfan wrote on Fri, 13 July 2007 14:54

spOILer wrote on Fri, 13 July 2007 12:01


I'm surprised this wasn't split out to its own thread too.

It's exactly noon, as opposed to about noon.

Where's our damn draft picks?


It's almost three now. Any way to confirm this?

Odds are if Buffalo actually did not send the paperwork in, TSN, Sportsnet etc. would be all over this. Extremely unlikely that no news would break out if Vanek was heading the Edmonton.

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Fair enough. The only NHL transaction involving Vanek is from the Friday, but unlike most of the other transactions, it only says Buffalo "agreed to terms".

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/transactions?date=20070707

Why not hope?

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Oh right...

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What are the odds really, after what the Sabres said last week?

That being said, the signing doesn't show on any of the NHL Transaction pages. Today's isn't up yet.

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