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Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #1) [message #806702]	Wed, 18 May 2022 22:00

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #1) [message #806737 is a reply to message #806702 ]	Wed, 18 May 2022 22:38

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Better show up for the next game

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #1) [message #806738 is a reply to message #806702 ]	Wed, 18 May 2022 22:38

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Replay of the March game. Some Oilers have to be embarrassed by their game tonight.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #1) [message #806739 is a reply to message #806702 ]	Wed, 18 May 2022 22:41

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Learning moment for the archives, right?

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #1) [message #806742 is a reply to message #806739 ]	Wed, 18 May 2022 22:51

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Turning point in the game was the 7th goal coming so soon after Yamo's goal brought us level. We needed another couple of straight offensive zone shifts after the goal to really put the wobbles into Calgary. The Anderson goal just took the wind out of the sails and we didn't look like scoring after that.

Yeah the score isn't great, but look we came back from 4 goals down twice to tie the game. We know we can get at the Flames, we have to look how we did that, tighten up at the back and go to work in game 2.

We lost game 1 of the last series, we blamed the netminder then for that loss. We weren't complaining at the end of the series were we??

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #1) [message #806743 is a reply to message #806702 ]	Wed, 18 May 2022 22:52

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If Markstrom plays like that we've got this series.

Only game 1.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #1) [message #806744 is a reply to message #806738 ]	Wed, 18 May 2022 22:53

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This series is gonna be the Pens-Flyers of a few years ago. High scoring absolutely bonkers games where everything happens. Most entertaining series of the entire playoffs, that people will be talking about for years.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #1) [message #806745 is a reply to message #806702 ]	Wed, 18 May 2022 22:56

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I'm worried that we got six goals past Markstrom and still couldn't win. I think we just wasted a putrid performance by a Vezina candidate.

Is he going to be that bad again?

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #1) [message #806746 is a reply to message #806745 ]	Wed, 18 May 2022 23:01

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benv wrote on Wed, 18 May 2022 21:56

I'm worried that we got six goals past Markstrom and still couldn't win. I think we just wasted a putrid performance by a Vezina candidate.

Is he going to be that bad again?

Smith is either amazing or horrible, and he can pivot on a dime between the two. Which Smith shows up next game is anyone's guess.

We can totally win this series, but it's entirely a roll of the dice about what happens with the goaltender.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #1) [message #806747 is a reply to message #806702 ]	Wed, 18 May 2022 23:06

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6 even strength goals… and you lose. Lol

Power play was trash. Give the flames Pk credit though, very aggressive.

Think that was JP’s best game of the playoffs so far. Archibald’s worst, though all his games have been worse than JPs.

Not only do you allow Tkachuk a hatty, but you let the Pretender score the GWG. Weak.

Played like crap and score 6 on Markstrom? Just imagine what happens when you actually play.

Only 1 game, and we were down 1-0 last series too. Move on to Friday and for the love of god, START ON TIME

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #1) [message #806748 is a reply to message #806747 ]	Wed, 18 May 2022 23:17

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Not my best moment, but I found myself wishing we had Lucic and Tkachuk in our colours tonight.

Did they both play like this all year?

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #1) [message #806749 is a reply to message #806748 ]	Wed, 18 May 2022 23:21

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Rutuu wrote on Wed, 18 May 2022 23:17

Not my best moment, but I found myself wishing we had Lucic and Tkachuk in our colours tonight.

Did they both play like this all year?

Can confirm Tkachuk was literally on milk cartons in Calgary till game 7 last series.

He finished with 100 points though this season.

Barf.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #1) [message #806750 is a reply to message #806702 ]	Wed, 18 May 2022 23:22

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We were lucky to score 6.

Clean house or bust

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #1) [message #806751 is a reply to message #806750 ]	Wed, 18 May 2022 23:24

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smyth260 wrote on Wed, 18 May 2022 23:22

We were lucky to score 6.

Absolutely

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #1) [message #806752 is a reply to message #806747 ]	Wed, 18 May 2022 23:24

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Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 18 May 2022 23:06

McDavid lead this team in hits. Shameful. Kassian and Archie just no-shows physically. Kane really struggled to keep up tonight too.

Worst thing by far was just the defensive zone play. Picked apart all night, guys standing straight up puck watching. Terrible plays off the boards constantly. Neither Keith or Nurse are stabilizing forces in our zone, both make terrible plays all the time. We need the opposite from both of them

2nd worst thing the PP. So many opportunities, can't make simple passes. No excuse for the skill players we have to not be able to make quick passes, but they just couldn't do it under any pressure.

Forget how little playoff experience this team has. They have never played a game in this kind of atmosphere. Kings, SJ and Ducks fans are mice compared to a riled up Canadian crowd. They really let the atmosphere get to them I think. Couldn't snap out of it until they were down 3-0 and the Lames started to back off a bit.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #1) [message #806753 is a reply to message #806752 ]	Wed, 18 May 2022 23:32

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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 18 May 2022 23:24

McDavid lead this team in hits. Shameful. Kassian and Archie just no-shows physically. Kane really struggled to keep up tonight too.

It’s a good thing you posted this and not Adam bc you’d have RD jump down your throat telling you that Archibald threw *checks notes* 4 hits! Which then he’ll point out that is double the number of hits that Jesse Puljujarvi threw. Of course, you’d be able to throw back that Archibald finished -2 while Jesse finished -1! He’d be shaking in his boots and say something to the effect of “of course Archibald finished with a lower +/-, he gets dzone starts!” Aaaand then we get to the topic of how the dzone has been literal trash the majority of the playoffs and how Archibald is a big contributor to that… then there just won’t be a response.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #1) [message #806754 is a reply to message #806702 ]	Wed, 18 May 2022 23:35

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Just gonna say it… Tkachuk asking Kane if he needs some money was pretty good.

*shudder* I need to shower

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #1) [message #806755 is a reply to message #806702 ]	Wed, 18 May 2022 23:35

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Different take. I’m going to fall asleep happy and wake up in a great mood. Bad start and we did not rollover against a vezina tender. Would the win have been better? Absolutely, but we move on to game 2.

How do you think the Flames, their coaches and Markstrom feel? A bit rattled to see the bottoms fall out in a sneeze?

Everyone in that rink thought it was lights out after they made it 6-2. You could hear a pin drop. We lost the battle, but made huge strides in the war.

Smith should’ve easily stopped goals 1 and 3. Embarrassingly bad goals and that’s okay. This is as bad as he will get.

Hopefully Tanev is done until game 7. It’s going to be a long series.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #1) [message #806756 is a reply to message #806702 ]	Wed, 18 May 2022 23:44

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Leon being hurt and forced up to Connors wing really hinders this team against a team like the Flames

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #1) [message #806757 is a reply to message #806756 ]	Thu, 19 May 2022 00:11

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Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 18 May 2022 22:44

Leon being hurt and forced up to Connors wing really hinders this team against a team like the Flames

It sucks. Was hoping that 4 days of rest was going to help.

Clean house or bust

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #1) [message #806758 is a reply to message #806757 ]	Thu, 19 May 2022 00:17

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smyth260 wrote on Thu, 19 May 2022 00:11

Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 18 May 2022 22:44

Leon being hurt and forced up to Connors wing really hinders this team against a team like the Flames

It sucks. Was hoping that 4 days of rest was going to help.

Imagine him playing on it will just prolong how long the sprain takes to heal. We're never getting 100% Drai these playoffs anymore. Hopefully it doesn't get much worse at least.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #1) [message #806759 is a reply to message #806756 ]	Thu, 19 May 2022 00:43

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Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 18 May 2022 22:44

Leon being hurt and forced up to Connors wing really hinders this team against a team like the Flames

Leon being so immobile really hinders the PP, I'd maybe try swapping Leon out for Kane in the kill shot zone.. Hyman and Kane both could cycle in front of the crease.. make their D-men lose position until one of them is free for an open pass and shot.. They need to do something that PP was not dangerous at all.. flames PK isn't that good.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #1) [message #806760 is a reply to message #806754 ]	Thu, 19 May 2022 01:54

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Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 18 May 2022 22:35

Just gonna say it… Tkachuk asking Kane if he needs some money was pretty good.

I'd ask Turtle what its like to be the son of Jabba the Hutt.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #1) [message #806761 is a reply to message #806743 ]	Thu, 19 May 2022 02:59

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Rutuu wrote on Wed, 18 May 2022 22:52

If Markstrom plays like that we've got this series.

Only game 1.

Imagine if they showed up on a night he couldn’t stop a puck.
They absolutely p1$$ed this one away.
Smith blew arse, so did Kosk, but no one showed up until they were getting embarrassed.

Your move this off-season, Motown

In fairness to Hall, I've wanted to throw a waterbottle at Eakins all season.
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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #1) [message #806762 is a reply to message #806761 ]	Thu, 19 May 2022 05:35

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Slim Jim Phantom Call wrote on Thu, 19 May 2022 05:59

Rutuu wrote on Wed, 18 May 2022 22:52

If Markstrom plays like that we've got this series.

Only game 1.

Our goalies sucked for sure, but nobody else started on time either. I’d love to say it was all on them but nobody other than McDavid looked good really.

And yeah - our goalies definitely sucked, but crazy to think the team that let in 9 goals finished with the better save %.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #1) [message #806763 is a reply to message #806753 ]	Thu, 19 May 2022 06:14

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Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 18 May 2022 23:32

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 18 May 2022 23:24

McDavid lead this team in hits. Shameful. Kassian and Archie just no-shows physically. Kane really struggled to keep up tonight too.

This would just be the shorter “Readers Digest” version you are showing us though of course.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #1) [message #806764 is a reply to message #806742 ]	Thu, 19 May 2022 06:24

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Leia wrote on Wed, 18 May 2022 22:51

We lost game 1 of the last series, we blamed the netminder then for that loss. We weren't complaining at the end of the series were we??

Truth be told, the Oilers are really in tough here.

Looked like you were comparing the Kings to the Flames there for a second.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #1) [message #806765 is a reply to message #806702 ]	Thu, 19 May 2022 06:27

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Sorry for the negativity, gang. This team gives me fits.

Team needs to knuckle down Friday.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #1) [message #806766 is a reply to message #806765 ]	Thu, 19 May 2022 07:29

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g2k wrote on Thu, 19 May 2022 09:27

Sorry for the negativity, gang. This team gives me fits.

Team needs to knuckle down Friday.

Baby steps - on Friday, don't let in the first shot and don't be down 2 goals less than 2 minutes in!

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #1) [message #806768 is a reply to message #806702 ]	Thu, 19 May 2022 08:12

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When it was tied at 6 (for that 90 seconds), Buccigross on ESPN called the game a freak show.

I think I still would have preferredno comeback, let the big horses rest and try to win game 2.

97.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #1) [message #806769 is a reply to message #806760 ]	Thu, 19 May 2022 08:32

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Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 19 May 2022 01:54

Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 18 May 2022 22:35

Just gonna say it… Tkachuk asking Kane if he needs some money was pretty good.

I'd ask Turtle what its like to be the son of Jabba the Hutt.

And the brother of the android body that carries around Krang on Ninja Turtles.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #1) [message #806770 is a reply to message #806755 ]	Thu, 19 May 2022 08:43

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inverno76 wrote on Wed, 18 May 2022 23:35

I feel exactly the way you do.

I figured the Flames would come out hot. Home ice, rink would be pumped, BOA talk for days about how big it was. I thought the Oilers would need to weather a storm early then settle into their game.

First shift of the game, bad goal goes in and you are down 1-0 30 seconds in. Next shift, brutal. I thought the Nuge line was horrific. Awful turn over by Nuge, down 2-0 a min in. Nuge was SOFT as it gets and zero battle. Then the 3rd goal was even worse than the first and you are down 3-0 6 mins in. Sure the Flames were coming at them big time but if you are down 1-0, not ideal but not the end of the world. Down 3-0 when 2 of your goalies were beer league goalie, tough to come back. But they came back and ties 6-6.

Oilers weren't good, their goalies were brutal. No one was engaged at all. Yet they scored 6. Now Markstrom wasn't very good but they scored 6 while being dog crap. So a small positive.

Coming in, they need a split. Go get your split game 2. This was a game where you just burn the tape and start over vs the Flames have to wonder. You came out and overwhelmed the Oilers from the start and the Oilers scored 4 straight to tie it.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #1) [message #806771 is a reply to message #806770 ]	Thu, 19 May 2022 09:05

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RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 19 May 2022 08:43

I thought the Nuge line was horrific. Awful turn over by Nuge, down 2-0 a min in. Nuge was SOFT as it gets and zero battle.

Totally agree. You can't have your 3C lay an egg in a game like this - for me, it was the giveaways that stood out with Nuge last night. He's never going to play especially heavy, but he needs to play smart every night.

Nurse was nowhere near physical enough. He'd be in the battle position in front of the net, but not leaning on guys at all.

The usual suspects showed up and played hard - I thought Kane played his worst game of the playoffs though.

The refs (or maybe the time keeper) screwing up on the coincidentals and letting Turtle out of the box first was a pretty egregious error.

If JW wants to stay 11/7, I'd consider putting in Nemo for Russell. Could use the aggression. If he goes back to 12/6, I think you need to put in Foegele for Archibald. 12th guy? I don't know - Brassard or Holloway.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #1) [message #806772 is a reply to message #806770 ]	Thu, 19 May 2022 09:08

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Even when we tied it up - I fist pumped and all, but I really didn't feel like we were going to hang on or take the lead.

I didn't really feel like many of our goals were scored because we were pressing or "taking over". Honestly, other than McDavid's goal, peak Markstrom probably stops most of the others. The Hyman goals were pretty weak with Markstrom practically sitting inside his net. Draisaitl's was a decent shot, but Markstrom was pretty deep on that one too. I guess the Yamamoto one was good - great effort by McDavid and a tap in for Yamamoto.

I realize all goals count the same, but like I said, even having scoring that 6th one to erase a 4 goal deficit, I still never really felt like we were in it or a threat to win.

Draisaitl should maybe be given a day off.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #1) [message #806773 is a reply to message #806772 ]	Thu, 19 May 2022 09:12

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Mike wrote on Thu, 19 May 2022 09:08

It is sad how expected it was that we would just stop playing after tying. I didn't think we had much of a shot either. Team needs to look ready from the start of the game. Simple as that. Played like trash, tied the game and went back to trash and lost at least 3 times just in these playoffs alone. It is a classic Oilers routine.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #1) [message #806774 is a reply to message #806773 ]	Thu, 19 May 2022 09:22

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Kr55 wrote on Thu, 19 May 2022 09:12

Mike wrote on Thu, 19 May 2022 09:08

I certainly expected it.

Markstrom looked half asleep last night. I wonder if he got bored when the game was 3-0 and simply threw the engine into neutral for a night. Until the Oilers can prove they're an equal to Calgary, I don't believe they are.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #1) [message #806775 is a reply to message #806771 ]	Thu, 19 May 2022 09:22

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Skoobz wrote on Thu, 19 May 2022 09:05

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 19 May 2022 08:43

I thought the Nuge line was horrific. Awful turn over by Nuge, down 2-0 a min in. Nuge was SOFT as it gets and zero battle.

Nuge wasn't the only guy who had a bad game but you just can't do what he did on that goal. You are already down 1-0 seconds in, so you need to buckle down immediately. He did the opposite.

I am being hard on Nuge, I know, but my expectations of him are a hell of a lot higher than say Archibald. As a guy who's been in the league for 11 yrs, ALL of them with the Oilers and as a guy who after the Oilers fail another season, every media goes to talk to Nuge and ask him about the season. Every year Nuge sighs, says how it sucks, says how disappointed he is, says how he wants to win in Edmonton and how he can't take losing anymore. THAT IS WHY YOU LOSE!! Plays like that are why the Oilers have lost over the years. That can not happen ever. If he was a first year player, OK, learning experience. He's an 11 yr vet, he knows better and show be better. In the playoffs every battle matters so if you aren't willing to battle every shift, then stay off the ice.

Show you care NUGE!! If an 11 yr Oiler who's now signed maybe until he retires doesn't give a crap, why the hell should anyone else.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #1) [message #806776 is a reply to message #806773 ]	Thu, 19 May 2022 09:24

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Kr55 wrote on Thu, 19 May 2022 12:12

Mike wrote on Thu, 19 May 2022 09:08

I wish I could just blame the goalies, but it was pretty bad all around.

And the most disappointing thing for me last night was the PP. Did we have 30 seconds of O-zone time in those 8 minutes? We got 2 shots on 4 PPs.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #1) [message #806778 is a reply to message #806771 ]	Thu, 19 May 2022 10:42

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Skoobz wrote on Thu, 19 May 2022 09:05

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 19 May 2022 08:43

I thought the Nuge line was horrific. Awful turn over by Nuge, down 2-0 a min in. Nuge was SOFT as it gets and zero battle.

It's time to get Nuge some real wingers. For some reason, Archibald has been stapled to his side since game 2 or 3 of the last series, and he's been noticeable for laying hits, but that's it. While the Edmonton media guys and the large less sophisticated segment of the fanbase just notice that, he contributes very little in the way of retrieving pucks, advancing pucks or creating scoring chances. We just get dominated when he's on the ice, with the only positives managed are the hits on the forecheck - a forecheck that's never sustained because it never results in turning over pucks.

With Draisaitl hurt, that's the de facto second line, and they're just getting destroyed. I think we need to see a lot less Archibald. Pair Nuge with Hyman or Yamamoto or Puljujarvi or even Holloway - someone who has some ability to take the game to the Flames so that the line isn't constantly playing defence.

I like Derek Ryan's game a little more but is he really someone we want playing that far up the lineup too? Nuge needs help - especially if he's going head to head with the 2nd line for Calgary.

We also need a save. Smith was horrible last night and Koskinen wasn't a lot better. I think they go back to Smith because Koskinen didn't exactly grab the job. I imagine it was nice for the Flames after seeing Oettinger's coming out party in Round 1 to find that shots somehow just slide right through our guys. Those first and third goals - yuck. Third one is a bad giveaway, but it's a fourth liner with a weak shot and it's just straight through.

I do feel like Jay Woodcroft seems to be falling back to more traditional thinking in the playoffs rather than using some of what made him successful in the regular season. I hope that we see that change here and he starts pushing the envelope a little more.

I will say, I am not overly concerned about the PP. The Flames clearly came in prepared to defend against that powerplay. They had a good strategy, but playoffs is about punch and counter-punch, so having seen what they are doing, we should be able to make adjustments to flip the script there again. I don't think we're going to see those guys held off the board much longer.

I still like our odds because we have Connor McDavid and they don't.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #1) [message #806780 is a reply to message #806778 ]	Thu, 19 May 2022 11:08

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Adam wrote on Thu, 19 May 2022 10:42

Skoobz wrote on Thu, 19 May 2022 09:05

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 19 May 2022 08:43

I thought the Nuge line was horrific. Awful turn over by Nuge, down 2-0 a min in. Nuge was SOFT as it gets and zero battle.

So it's Nuge's wingers fault on that second goal? Go watch the play. The wingers aren't involved nor should they be involved.

I am not saying Nuge was the only reason the Oilers lost but there is Exhibit A of a lack of engagement by the Oilers and an unwillingness to play the game hard that is 100% a requirement for the playoffs. When you default to the soft play, you lose every time. A guy who has been on the team for 11 yrs and supposedly is sick of losing as much as Nuge says he is, shouldn't be the one doing that crap. But it's golden boy Nuge who does no wrong so it's someone else's fault of course.

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